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POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) - (new: Brown Sugar take 08 - 25/11/24)
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: August 1, 2024 16:36

Early versions from
BROWN SUGAR
&
WILD HORSES

3rd&4th December1969: Florence, Alabama, Muscle Shoals Sound Studios.
These early versions were uploaded on YouTube by Ronald Starcjewski.


01- "Brown Sugar" (early version) the 1st and 2nd verses are inverted and the lyrics are slightly different.
You will find 2 versions. In the 2nd "more reworked" I added the first 2 notes of the intro and I reworked the end a little. As I was not sure that you would appreciate this DIY I added the "slightly reworked" version.

02 & 03 - "Wild Horses" (early version with ‘the things you asked for’)
You will find here 2 versions
02 – this is a partial recording with the piano stronger in the mix.
03 – this version was first filtered by BT2G.
Reason of the noises in the background: “I recorded it using my cell phone from a cassette playback that I was not supposed to record”


As usual all the infos are coming from Nico Zentgraf's Rolling Stones Complete Works Database: [www.nzentgraf.de]

Posted in 2024 by StonyRoad at IORR [iorr.org]

Pixeldrain link valid 3 months:
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For more infos see also the ProfessorWolf topic:
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A new early BS was post on 17 August: it's just a 44 seconds extract... we have to wait hoping for others
Here I only equilibrated the channels and amplified:


Pixeldrain link valid 4 months:
[pixeldrain.com]

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A new early BS posted on 17 September Thanks to Ronald Starcjewski!!!

Pixeldrain link valid 4 months
[pixeldrain.com]
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On 17 October, Ronald Starcjewski posted a new excerpt from the sessions of Brown Sugar on 04.12.69… It seems to be a kind of monthly rendezvous.
This new excerpt is located at the end of the sessions and is, although very short, interesting to discover another step in the maturation of this extraordinary song.
We can hear that they added percussion in the intro and MJ's "yo!" on that day.
Here you will find the audio rip from the original upload and my slightly reworked version
Thanks to nzb who pointed me at this new upload.
StonyRoad

PixelDrain link valid 4 months:
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Brown Sugar take 8 :
Posted on 25th November 2024 by Ronald Starcjewski: a big thanks to him (and to BT2G who point me as this new post)
Here Ronald Starcjewski comments:
….
From Muscle Shoals 12/3/69. They took a short break while Keith and Mick played around with the arrangement, but only made a couple of small changes. This was the next take after the break. There are two sources for the recordings at Muscle Shoals. Stanley Booth, using a portable tape recorder, made recordings all three nights. The Maysles were only there the final night, but were not allowed to film the actual recording or overdubbing of the songs; just the playback after. Stanley was allowed to record while the Stones were actually recording, not just the playbacks. The actual music played in the film Gimme Shelter from the playbacks was overdubbed with more polished versions. However, the original audio, including the chatter between playbacks, still exists. There are almost two hours of it. This includes the hotel footage while they were listening to rough mixes. The person who had the collection of Booth recordings is no longer with us. I have no idea if they even still exist. Over the course of a couple years, I was invited to visit the collector and was able to hear the Booth recordings. I made very detailed notes while listening to those tapes. I estimate that the collector had at least four or five hours recorded on the tapes. The recordings I posted were made using my mobile, during a couple different visits, while the collector went out for a smoke. The recordings posted here were trimmed from longer recordings. I was sworn to secrecy, but when I learned of the collector’s passing last summer I made the decision to put these up.
….
Here you will find the original version ripped from YT and my slightly reworked version.
Posted by StonyRoad at IORR on 26/11/24

WT link valid until 29/11/24:
[we.tl]
Pixeldrain valid 4 months:
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Edited 14 time(s). Last edit at 2024-11-26 13:19 by StonyRoad.

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: August 1, 2024 16:58

thanks for these sorry for stepping on your toes a bitwinking smiley

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: August 1, 2024 17:28

Thanks for this archivist work!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Norbert ()
Date: August 1, 2024 18:23

Thanks a lot!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: nbutton ()
Date: August 1, 2024 20:01

Thank You

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: August 1, 2024 20:02

Thanks a lot Norbert! smileys with beer

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: StoneZP ()
Date: August 1, 2024 20:45

thumbs up

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Tonstone ()
Date: August 2, 2024 00:00

Thanks again Norbert.thumbs up

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: kkhoranstoned ()
Date: August 2, 2024 00:25

Thank you thank you thank you

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: joguema ()
Date: August 2, 2024 09:01

Thank you very much!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: August 2, 2024 14:04

Many thanks for posting the links.

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Amarant ()
Date: August 2, 2024 14:20

Thanks very much!!!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Antonio218 ()
Date: August 2, 2024 17:25

Thanks for these StonyRoad.

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: NeddieFlanders ()
Date: August 2, 2024 17:55

Thanks a lot! :-)

N

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: August 2, 2024 18:58

Thanks to all involved!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: ToddS ()
Date: August 2, 2024 20:52

Thank You for sharing. I appreciate it a lot.

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: smokeydusky ()
Date: August 3, 2024 09:17

Thanks!!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: jumpingjflash ()
Date: August 4, 2024 08:05

THX a lot

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: August 4, 2024 16:37

Thanks!!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked)
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: August 12, 2024 15:28

thx

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new snippet the 17 August
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: August 17, 2024 16:22

A new early Brown Sugar version was posted on 17 August: it's just a 44 seconds extract... we have to wait hoping for others
Here I only equilibrated the channels and amplified:


WT link valid until 20/08/24:
[we.tl]

Pixeldrain link valid 4 months:
[pixeldrain.com]

also on the initial mail

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new extract from early Brown Sugar (17/08/24)
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: August 17, 2024 17:23

Interesting vib, thank you Norbert!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new extract from early Brown Sugar (17/08/24)
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: August 25, 2024 18:43

Thanks, guys! thumbs up

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new extract from early Brown Sugar (17/08/24)
Posted by: Wolfgang ()
Date: September 18, 2024 09:55

...and anotherone is out,...
[youtu.be]
Thanks to Ronald

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new extract from early Brown Sugar (17/08/24)
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: September 18, 2024 10:53

Quote
Wolfgang
...and anotherone is out,...
[youtu.be]
Thanks to Ronald
and to you for pointing me at this very interesting new version

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new extract from early Brown Sugar (17/08/24)
Posted by: StonyRoad ()
Date: September 18, 2024 10:56

Here links for the version added on 17 September, with and without a slight reworking (channel equilibration)
WT link valid until 21/09/24:
[we.tl]
and
a Pixeldrain link valid 4 months:
[pixeldrain.com]
(also added in the first post)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-09-18 11:09 by StonyRoad.

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new early Brown Sugar version (17/09/24)
Posted by: 5strings ()
Date: September 18, 2024 16:14

Thanks for this one and for the job done.
Never Heard this one, really great.
smileys with beer



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-09-18 16:15 by 5strings.

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new early Brown Sugar version (17/09/24)
Posted by: gimme_shelter ()
Date: September 18, 2024 23:21

thanks!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new early Brown Sugar version (17/09/24)
Posted by: micha063 ()
Date: September 19, 2024 00:58

Thank you very much StonyRoad!

Re: POST: 1969.12.03/04 "Brown Sugar" & "Wild Horses" (Early takes) (reworked) + new early Brown Sugar version (17/09/24)
Posted by: gaizoku ()
Date: September 19, 2024 04:31

Thank you.

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