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Re: To rskinno
Posted by: breadfan ()
Date: June 13, 2024 22:47

Collecting every release on coloured vinyl IMO is equally as bad, I used to know someone 45 yrs ago who had a rainbow collection of the same single, album, when they were being released in their infancy. I could understand vinyl misprints (same label on both sides), I had a couple myself, but not the coloured vinyl. But then collecting hits people in many different ways.

Re: To rskinno
Date: June 13, 2024 23:23

Truth is, rskinno puts in his efforts, and you cannot please all the people all the time, from memory, he up's material from lower sources including youtube uploads and does his mastering, if it upsets some, then go find his source recording and go do it yourself ?
He never messes with top quality recordings, and as long as he and some others are happy with it, then so be it.
He does not deserve the abuse or ridicule he gets from a few over-inflated fans here, it is verging on bullying.
And all because they think if he stops his hobby, you will all reap the high quality recordings. Wrong.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: TurningToGold2 ()
Date: June 14, 2024 00:02

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dishevelmentblues

He never messes with top quality recordings

Actually, he does. That's just not true. That's actually my main beef with his "work." He takes perfectly good recordings and then messes with them by adding compression and loudness and excessive EQ, when they don't really need it. And then attaches his name to them.

I've been avoiding his posts here for quite some time now. He has definitely messed with good quality recordings before. Some folks here can probably give you a list.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 14, 2024 01:49

Quote
dishevelmentblues
Truth is, rskinno puts in his efforts, and you cannot please all the people all the time, from memory, he up's material from lower sources including youtube uploads and does his mastering, if it upsets some, then go find his source recording and go do it yourself ?
He never messes with top quality recordings, and as long as he and some others are happy with it, then so be it.
He does not deserve the abuse or ridicule he gets from a few over-inflated fans here, it is verging on bullying.
And all because they think if he stops his hobby, you will all reap the high quality recordings. Wrong.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 14, 2024 01:58

Quote
dishevelmentblues
Truth is, rskinno puts in his efforts, and you cannot please all the people all the time, from memory, he up's material from lower sources including youtube uploads and does his mastering, if it upsets some, then go find his source recording and go do it yourself ?
He never messes with top quality recordings, and as long as he and some others are happy with it, then so be it.
He does not deserve the abuse or ridicule he gets from a few over-inflated fans here, it is verging on bullying.
And all because they think if he stops his hobby, you will all reap the high quality recordings. Wrong.

No one wants his source recordings. They want the ones that aren't shared. If he stopped I am sure more would have been released.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: elmuseo ()
Date: June 14, 2024 03:27

hi friends:
I did not want to make a public judgment of rskinno, since he has his email hidden, I wanted to give him some advice to stop these practices that very few members like. I am not enjoying how he is being treated... I think he is not doing it to gain notoriety or money... I think he simply wants to contribute to iorr... or so I hope.
Rskinno if I have offended you in anything, I'm sorry I just wanted to warn you that your practices are not okay for many members of IORR

Ich wollte kein öffentliches Urteil über Rskinno fällen, da er die E-Mail versteckt hat, wollte ich ihm einige Ratschläge geben, um diese Praktiken zu stoppen, die nur sehr wenigen Mitgliedern gefallen. Ich genieße es nicht, wie er behandelt wird ... Ich glaube, er tut es nicht, um Bekanntheit oder Geld zu erlangen ... Ich glaube, er will einfach nur einen Beitrag zu iorr leisten ... zumindest hoffe ich das
Rskinno, wenn ich Sie in irgendetwas beleidigt habe, tut es mir leid, ich wollte Sie nur warnen, dass Ihre Praktiken für viele Mitglieder der IORR nicht in Ordnung sind

yo no quería hacer un juicio publico de rskinno, ya que tiene el email escondido le quería dar un consejo para que dejase estas practicas que a muy pocos miembros les gusta. no estoy disfrutando como se le está tratando.. creo que no lo hace para ganar notoriedad o dinero..pienso que simplemente quiere contribuir a iorr..o eso espero
Rskinno si te he ofendido en algo, lo siento yo solo quería advertirte que tus practicas no estan bien para numerosos miembros de IORR



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Re: To rskinno
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 14, 2024 17:01

You can’t post a thread like this and not expect vitriol. skinno’s actions have inspired radically divergent viewpoints and upset many people here.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: June 14, 2024 19:44

I thought elmuseo's post was a kind and generous one.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: ade ()
Date: June 14, 2024 19:46

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Dan
"I know a few people who don't share and it really has nothing to do with him or the universe revolving around their rig.

Far more will not share bands recordings due to Edge, Accountant and all the rest using affiliate links on guitars101. Nobody wants to be treated as their chinese sweatshop

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: June 14, 2024 19:50

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daspyknows
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TravellinMan
Travelinman sounds like someone who never leaves his mommy's basement. He also makes false accusations out of shing?eer ignorance so he is on team skinno.

And daspysays you need to go back to law school and retake the course on intellectual property. Maybe yiu just overslept that day? Didn't you suggest in one of your posts you had legal training?

Maybe you are mistaken. The person you are referring to is a friend of mine who is also a taper. In fact 2 of my friends who are tapers are attorneys and I respect their opinions much more than you who is a Kenneth Cheeseboro type of attorney.

So Teavelinboy besides the bathroom and kitchen where do you travel? What I know is you make false accusations and you lack any legal training besides being butthurt I won't post my stuff publicly which means you don't get it.
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Sorry. You are not a bad lawyer daspyblows. Your two friends are. Nerdish spam posts.

You seem angry. Good. I want you to be. I want you to feel the discomfort you generate for others.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 14, 2024 20:55

Travinboy are you just butthurt. You need to get out more or at least a little. Might be nice to have a life. At least I travel. At a festival in Norway and the artists I met at the hotel at breakfast sure were happy to get recordings of there performance. What did you do all day besides marvel at skinnos "work". And no,not Angry, that's a good song.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: June 14, 2024 21:24

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ade
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Dan
"I know a few people who don't share and it really has nothing to do with him or the universe revolving around their rig.

Far more will not share bands recordings due to Edge, Accountant and all the rest using affiliate links on guitars101. Nobody wants to be treated as their chinese sweatshop

That site is based in Canada, probably wouldn't be too hard to get shut down.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: rskinno ()
Date: June 15, 2024 03:52

It's not that the tapers, why they don't show their recordings or they don't have them
or because of the bad quality they made or because they weren't there as Pyhantom ?
It's the people who are fooling you and saying they are the greatest here.
Let them be. I have nothing against it. That's the way it should be. Original recordings in poor condition
for them. That's okay. I don't want them. Thank you !!!

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: SoulSurvivor1990 ()
Date: June 15, 2024 04:16

What a terribly arrogant response.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 15, 2024 17:24

Quote
rskinno
It's not that the tapers, why they don't show their recordings or they don't have them
or because of the bad quality they made or because they weren't there as Pyhantom ?
It's the people who are fooling you and saying they are the greatest here.
Let them be. I have nothing against it. That's the way it should be. Original recordings in poor condition
for them. That's okay. I don't want them. Thank you !!!

YOU are why many tapers holding back. No point in posting quality recordings so you can remasterbate all over them. If we all post a song like I did with MR from NJ2 then we are accused of teasing people. Pretty sure every show has at least one good to excellent source and a couple have 3 or more. These are not lossy youtube scrapes but actual lossless stereo recordings.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: June 15, 2024 19:41

Quote
daspyknows
Quote
rskinno
It's not that the tapers, why they don't show their recordings or they don't have them
or because of the bad quality they made or because they weren't there as Pyhantom ?
It's the people who are fooling you and saying they are the greatest here.
Let them be. I have nothing against it. That's the way it should be. Original recordings in poor condition
for them. That's okay. I don't want them. Thank you !!!

YOU are why many tapers holding back. No point in posting quality recordings so you can remasterbate all over them. If we all post a song like I did with MR from NJ2 then we are accused of teasing people. Pretty sure every show has at least one good to excellent source and a couple have 3 or more. These are not lossy youtube scrapes but actual lossless stereo recordings.

by the way i'm sorry you caught so much flak for sharing that after i requested it

it was a nice thing to do

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 15, 2024 20:57

Quote
daspyknows
Quote
rskinno
It's not that the tapers, why they don't show their recordings or they don't have them
or because of the bad quality they made or because they weren't there as Pyhantom ?
It's the people who are fooling you and saying they are the greatest here.
Let them be. I have nothing against it. That's the way it should be. Original recordings in poor condition
for them. That's okay. I don't want them. Thank you !!!

YOU are why many tapers holding back. No point in posting quality recordings so you can remasterbate all over them. If we all post a song like I did with MR from NJ2 then we are accused of teasing people. Pretty sure every show has at least one good to excellent source and a couple have 3 or more. These are not lossy youtube scrapes but actual lossless stereo recordings.

Really? If it wasn't rskinno, it would be falo, Captain Acid, guitars101, commercial bootleggers or whoever else because you know very well that once you make a recording "public" (=available) for everybody, you can't control its further fate.

I fully understand your reasonings as due to my professional jobs in the music industry and longterm connections in collector's circles I have tapes that I simply can't share and I don't mean 2024 Stones audience recordings here. Thing is, I don't brag about them, make fans jealous and single out certain people like rskinno and thereby turn him into a hate object here - that's just plain evil imo.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: June 15, 2024 21:13

Didn't want to chime in but retired_dog hit it right on the head for me. Perfectsmileys with beer

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: June 16, 2024 00:14

This threat is a shame. I think it should be deleted.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: June 16, 2024 00:28

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glimmertwin1
This threat is a shame. I think it should be deleted.

If I remember rightly from a few years back, bv will only delete a thread if he decides he's had enough of it or he will consider it if someone else reports it as inappropriate.
So basically, if you think it's no good you need to report it and say why.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: glimmertwin1 ()
Date: June 16, 2024 00:31

I see. I mean I can understand the disagreement but really. sad smiley

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: June 16, 2024 04:15

This can go on and on. There's always going to be a division. Incidentally it's the same in other threads. Best thing anyone can do is try to understand each others opinions and keep it civil.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 16, 2024 10:05

Quote
retired_dog

Really? If it wasn't rskinno, it would be falo, Captain Acid, guitars101, commercial bootleggers or whoever else because you know very well that once you make a recording "public" (=available) for everybody, you can't control its further fate.

True to a point. Falo has gotten and used my recordings in his project, but he asks in advance. Captain Acid also has done quality work on older recordings and doesn't remaster new stuff just to put his name on it. RSkinno is in the same league as the commercial bootleggers. The New Orleans recording was a test on both accounts and was a fail. After the tour is over the connercial bootleggers have less incentive since demand drops. By then hopefully rskinno will have moved onto sonething else more useful too. My recordings will be shared closely with people I trust until that point is reached and right now I am on the road traveling (some say they are traveling in their user name but I actually do) and I have other things to do. But back to the point, if rskinno was more transparent about what he does, maybe asked a taper if it was cool and shared results before sending something out there would be more high quality recordings out. Just a fact of life here.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: June 16, 2024 10:57


Re: To rskinno
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: June 16, 2024 19:18

Quote
retired_dog
Quote
daspyknows
Quote
rskinno
It's not that the tapers, why they don't show their recordings or they don't have them
or because of the bad quality they made or because they weren't there as Pyhantom ?
It's the people who are fooling you and saying they are the greatest here.
Let them be. I have nothing against it. That's the way it should be. Original recordings in poor condition
for them. That's okay. I don't want them. Thank you !!!

YOU are why many tapers holding back. No point in posting quality recordings so you can remasterbate all over them. If we all post a song like I did with MR from NJ2 then we are accused of teasing people. Pretty sure every show has at least one good to excellent source and a couple have 3 or more. These are not lossy youtube scrapes but actual lossless stereo recordings.

Really? If it wasn't rskinno, it would be falo, Captain Acid, guitars101, commercial bootleggers or whoever else because you know very well that once you make a recording "public" (=available) for everybody, you can't control its further fate.

I fully understand your reasonings as due to my professional jobs in the music industry and longterm connections in collector's circles I have tapes that I simply can't share and I don't mean 2024 Stones audience recordings here. Thing is, I don't brag about them, make fans jealous and single out certain people like rskinno and thereby turn him into a hate object here - that's just plain evil imo.

Keep in mind that I don't bother to work on low quality recordings and remaster them for uploads. I only bother with this stuff if I need audio for my BDs but keep them strictly just on the BDs.
Also I don't mess with already perfect recordings (anymore).

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 17, 2024 05:56

Quote
falo01
Quote
retired_dog
Quote
daspyknows
Quote
rskinno
It's not that the tapers, why they don't show their recordings or they don't have them
or because of the bad quality they made or because they weren't there as Pyhantom ?
It's the people who are fooling you and saying they are the greatest here.
Let them be. I have nothing against it. That's the way it should be. Original recordings in poor condition
for them. That's okay. I don't want them. Thank you !!!

YOU are why many tapers holding back. No point in posting quality recordings so you can remasterbate all over them. If we all post a song like I did with MR from NJ2 then we are accused of teasing people. Pretty sure every show has at least one good to excellent source and a couple have 3 or more. These are not lossy youtube scrapes but actual lossless stereo recordings.

Really? If it wasn't rskinno, it would be falo, Captain Acid, guitars101, commercial bootleggers or whoever else because you know very well that once you make a recording "public" (=available) for everybody, you can't control its further fate.

I fully understand your reasonings as due to my professional jobs in the music industry and longterm connections in collector's circles I have tapes that I simply can't share and I don't mean 2024 Stones audience recordings here. Thing is, I don't brag about them, make fans jealous and single out certain people like rskinno and thereby turn him into a hate object here - that's just plain evil imo.

Keep in mind that I don't bother to work on low quality recordings and remaster them for uploads. I only bother with this stuff if I need audio for my BDs but keep them strictly just on the BDs.
Also I don't mess with already perfect recordings (anymore).

falo, I'm well aware of all this. But it's not about you, in fact I could have named anybody who ever shared anything here - masters, remasters, matrixes, whatever. People like daspyknows always find reasons for holding back tapes, fair enough because it's their tapes, but to single out people like rskinno and campaigning against him in countless posts and effectively turn him into a hate object for many here is crossing a line for me, it's not only kindergarden, but downright malicious imo.

Apart from rskinno and the Stones, the collecting world in general is full of remasters, some are better than others, the good ones I keep, the bad ones I simply delete, and with a bit of experience you know beforehand who are the uploaders to go for and those you'd better avoid. No big deal, no capital crime either, the stuff is usually available for free and anybody here who feels offended by guys like rskinno should keep in mind that you're lucky that the Stones tolerate the non-commercial sharing of their unreleased music - otherwise your world would turn black and you would have to spend lots of cash for commercial bootlegs in order to hear something that's not officially available.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 17, 2024 10:37

old dog. your assumptions are all wrong. I share everything else I record. EVERYTHING, and only the Stones recordings have this issue. Considering I record 150 or more shows a year and only have these issues with Rolling Stones recordingscshould indicate an issue with one band.

The only other artists currently performing where the "bootlegs" are an issue is Eric Clapton With Clapton the poorly done remasters done immediately don't happen. Not an issue with Neil Young, not an issue with any of the open taping jam bands, not an issue with Taylor Swift, not an issue with any other artist filling stadiums. So we come back to the same discussion, Why the Stones?

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 17, 2024 11:27

Quote
daspyknows
old dog. your assumptions are all wrong. I share everything else I record. EVERYTHING, and only the Stones recordings have this issue. Considering I record 150 or more shows a year and only have these issues with Rolling Stones recordingscshould indicate an issue with one band.

The only other artists currently performing where the "bootlegs" are an issue is Eric Clapton With Clapton the poorly done remasters done immediately don't happen. Not an issue with Neil Young, not an issue with any of the open taping jam bands, not an issue with Taylor Swift, not an issue with any other artist filling stadiums. So we come back to the same discussion, Why the Stones?

Daspydoody, I seriously advise you to GET A LIFE! Take it easy, baby, just like the Stones who obviously tolerate these things. 'cause, you know, getting upset all the time about things you can't control anyway can only damage your mental and possibly also your physical health at one point. It's simply not worth it imo.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-17 11:28 by retired_dog.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: June 17, 2024 13:20

Quote
retired_dog
Quote
daspyknows
old dog. your assumptions are all wrong. I share everything else I record. EVERYTHING, and only the Stones recordings have this issue. Considering I record 150 or more shows a year and only have these issues with Rolling Stones recordingscshould indicate an issue with one band.

The only other artists currently performing where the "bootlegs" are an issue is Eric Clapton With Clapton the poorly done remasters done immediately don't happen. Not an issue with Neil Young, not an issue with any of the open taping jam bands, not an issue with Taylor Swift, not an issue with any other artist filling stadiums. So we come back to the same discussion, Why the Stones?

Daspydoody, I seriously advise you to GET A LIFE! Take it easy, baby, just like the Stones who obviously tolerate these things. 'cause, you know, getting upset all the time about things you can't control anyway can only damage your mental and possibly also your physical health at one point. It's simply not worth it imo.


I have a life almostdeaddog. Enjoying every minute of it traveling. You must be projecting regarding having a life since you don't seem to be doing much enjoying retirement. I am controlling what I need to control and that is why you and a few others on here are so butthurt. Time to get back to enjoying the sites of Amsterdam before heading to Dublin and Manchester for a couple Pearl Jam shows. Bergenfest in Bergen Norway was awesome too. Some people would consider that having a life. you should too.

Re: To rskinno
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: June 17, 2024 21:19

Quote
daspyknows
Quote
retired_dog
Quote
daspyknows
old dog. your assumptions are all wrong. I share everything else I record. EVERYTHING, and only the Stones recordings have this issue. Considering I record 150 or more shows a year and only have these issues with Rolling Stones recordingscshould indicate an issue with one band.

The only other artists currently performing where the "bootlegs" are an issue is Eric Clapton With Clapton the poorly done remasters done immediately don't happen. Not an issue with Neil Young, not an issue with any of the open taping jam bands, not an issue with Taylor Swift, not an issue with any other artist filling stadiums. So we come back to the same discussion, Why the Stones?

Daspydoody, I seriously advise you to GET A LIFE! Take it easy, baby, just like the Stones who obviously tolerate these things. 'cause, you know, getting upset all the time about things you can't control anyway can only damage your mental and possibly also your physical health at one point. It's simply not worth it imo.


I have a life almostdeaddog. Enjoying every minute of it traveling. You must be projecting regarding having a life since you don't seem to be doing much enjoying retirement. I am controlling what I need to control and that is why you and a few others on here are so butthurt. Time to get back to enjoying the sites of Amsterdam before heading to Dublin and Manchester for a couple Pearl Jam shows. Bergenfest in Bergen Norway was awesome too. Some people would consider that having a life. you should too.

Getting rude once again is not a sign of mental authority! Anyway, with a wonderful and impressive life like that why do you let people like rskinno stand in your way? Just enjoy the life you have, reek in the favours people are willing to give you for your tapes and the admiration you get from your followers. Take it easy - just like the Stones with recordings like this...

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