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I agree with you elmuseo!
I agree. Tapers go through a lot to get these tapes done, so I don't blame them one bit for keeping them to themselves.
Many just buy for "artwork" even when freely available. I had a discussion with a guy who buys everything because it's an investment even if he could download for free.
Travelinman sounds like someone who never leaves his mommy's basement. He also makes false accusations out of sheer ignorance so he is on team skinno.
It's often a personal endeavor with little knowledge of or involvement in any outside community. That's how it was with the person who recorded all the mystery drive stuff. Only a chance meeting in 1994 turned it loose. There is or was so much more in existence than you could ever imagine but it's not being "hoarded" as discussed here.
Drives me crazy, more the lower level stuff than just another show on a tour that played to millions. Includes radio broadcast stuff.
And daspysays you need to go back to law school and retake the course on intellectual property. Maybe yiu just overslept that day? Didn't you suggest in one of your posts you had legal training?[/quote]
Maybe you are mistaken. The person you are referring to is a friend of mine who is also a taper. In fact 2 of my friends who are tapers are attorneys and I respect their opinions much more than you who is a Kenneth Cheeseboro type of attorney.
So Teavelinboy besides the bathroom and kitchen where do you travel? What I know is you make false accusations and you lack any legal training besides being butthurt I won't post my stuff publicly which means you don't get it.
this is off topic but i was gonna start a thread asking what soundboards are known or rumored to exist in private collections
i like reading through old threads here on iorr and i keep coming across people mentioning recordings that they've heard or that they know that people have and it's always fun and frustrating to read these posts
because things that i've read are out there (like soundboards of altamount, or a soundboard of a calfornia show from 1972, or someone claiming there are complete pro shot videos of essentially every show from 89 onward in private collections) are likely never gonna see the light of day
and it's sad because the stones are never gonna release this stuff because the audience for it is so small and ever shrinking as the kind of fans that would be into this are dying off or moving on and rskinno is just making it worst by scaring off those that might be willing to share
so thanks for the tid bit of info that someone out there has actual uncirculated soundboards from recent tours
i sure hope charlie's last show is in his collection
even though it's unlikely this person would ever share it i'd still rank it as more likley then the band releasing it
to dapsy and all the tapers who are upset about rskinno what would it take for you all to share here again?
do you want rskinno to stop or apologize or is there truly nothing that will convince them to share?
or is it more about the bootleggers selling these recordings?
I personally doubt that all of a sudden there are so many SBDs out there in the taper community, maybe a few, but all of a sudden a lot, I don't think so.
But that's not the point anyway. Besides that, I wouldn't share them in public anyway, because obviously I would get my source in some trouble because the number
of people who originally leaked it from an inside source are limited.
I guess it's more because of making money by selling them, which is a valid point when you consider the expenses of the tapers (travelling, tickets & equipment).
Another point is: Some taper just share their RAW recording, saying that whoever wants to play around with it, should have a go.
People like daspyknows obviously share a finished and optimised recording which they consider the best sounding option of it. There is no need to remaster it anymore....
I think the same about my latest recordings, but if someone wants to try it,
well do it, although it's kinda annoying to have multiple versions of 1 recording out there.
A decade ago, I was trying to matrix perfect recordings just because I was curious about the result, how it would sound. It's an objective point to say there is no need for those experiments most of the time.
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That's a bit of a stretch.
But if he has that much "power," I don't blame him for wielding it, just because.
Just imagine just about every show that ever happened was recorded in some form.
And for every one there is a story for why or why you don't have it.
I would imagine some people need an ego check and not much us mere mortals can do about that.
Yep, I know 2 people who buy all Led Zeppelin just for the artwork.
One lives with his mom while paying for at least 2 storage units. No way to "fight" that mindset but it's pretty benign as far as mental illness goes, assuming his mother isn't placed in any danger by his collection or his behavior.
Personally I don't get the interest in artwork especially since most of it rarely corresponds with the actual recording.
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Posted by:
elmuseo
()
Date: June 12, 2024 16:32
IORR Editor comment:
I have been informed about this thread being hostile, and dividing collectors "inside and outside" certain trading circles.
I have been a collector of tapes and recordings for many years myself; I think I have every show since 1995 and for a decade or so complete on tapes and minidisc recorded by myself, until life got too busy, and I stopped recording for myself. I do understand the work involved in a recording.
Still, I do not accept IORR being used for segregation of "good" and "not so good" fans, placintg some inside a cercle, some outside.
Please trade with a passion, not being selfish, and certainly not using IORR for segregation or hostile posts or hostile activity.
I don't want to spend much time on babysitting grown up fans and people in this "Hot Stuff" forum, but if some do not post with respect, then I would have no other chouce than using the methods I have, which is deleting threads, seleting posts, and closing posting access.
Please help IORR running as the best and safest fan site there is, by sharing with everyone, not just a small circle, locking others out.
PS. The original post had a title, and a text, addressing one specific IORR member. That is in violation of IORR posting policy, not doing personal attacks or individual targeting, in a negative way.
Bjornulf (IORR Editor)
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The original post of this thread was:
XXXX, why do you insist on "mastering" audios that other people have recorded...now iorr is a website that is discouraged in many forums from sharing posts...because there is a certain "rskinno" who immediately destroys them...I think That your stubbornness... only makes iorr a website that is almost hated for these practices.
If you want to learn sound production... do it but leave it saved on your PC.
please do not harm the good reputation that IORR has earned for many years.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-20 21:49 by bv.
I have been informed about this thread being hostile, and dividing collectors "inside and outside" certain trading circles.
I have been a collector of tapes and recordings for many years myself; I think I have every show since 1995 and for a decade or so complete on tapes and minidisc recorded by myself, until life got too busy, and I stopped recording for myself. I do understand the work involved in a recording.
Still, I do not accept IORR being used for segregation of "good" and "not so good" fans, placintg some inside a cercle, some outside.
Please trade with a passion, not being selfish, and certainly not using IORR for segregation or hostile posts or hostile activity.
I don't want to spend much time on babysitting grown up fans and people in this "Hot Stuff" forum, but if some do not post with respect, then I would have no other chouce than using the methods I have, which is deleting threads, seleting posts, and closing posting access.
Please help IORR running as the best and safest fan site there is, by sharing with everyone, not just a small circle, locking others out.
PS. The original post had a title, and a text, addressing one specific IORR member. That is in violation of IORR posting policy, not doing personal attacks or individual targeting, in a negative way.
Bjornulf (IORR Editor)
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The original post of this thread was:
XXXX, why do you insist on "mastering" audios that other people have recorded...now iorr is a website that is discouraged in many forums from sharing posts...because there is a certain "rskinno" who immediately destroys them...I think That your stubbornness... only makes iorr a website that is almost hated for these practices.
If you want to learn sound production... do it but leave it saved on your PC.
please do not harm the good reputation that IORR has earned for many years.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-20 21:49 by bv.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
wupperstein
()
Date: June 12, 2024 17:40
Quote
elmuseo
Rskinno, warum bestehst du darauf, Audios zu „mastern“, die andere Leute aufgenommen haben? Jetzt ist iorr eine Website, die in vielen Foren davon abgeraten wird, Beiträge zu teilen … weil es einen bestimmten „Rskinno“ gibt, der sie sofort zerstört. .Ich denke, dass Ihre Sturheit ... iorr nur zu einer Website macht, die für diese Praktiken fast gehasst wird.
Wenn Sie die Tonerzeugung erlernen möchten, tun Sie es, aber lassen Sie es auf Ihrem PC gespeichert.
Bitte beschädigen Sie nicht den guten Ruf, den IORR seit vielen Jahren genießt
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Sugerencias
Rskinno, why do you insist on "mastering" audios that other people have recorded...now iorr is a website that is discouraged in many forums from sharing posts...because there is a certain "rskinno" who immediately destroys them...I think That your stubbornness... only makes iorr a website that is almost hated for these practices.
If you want to learn sound production... do it but leave it saved on your PC.
please do not harm the good reputation that IORR has earned for many years
Rskinno, ¿por que te empeñas en "masterizar" audios que ha grabado otra gente...ahora iorr es una web que desaconsejan en muchos foros compartir post..porque hay un tal "rskinno" que inmediatamente los destroza....creo que tu empecinamiento..solo logra que iorr sea una web casi odiada por estas practicas.
si quieres aprender produccion de sonido..hazlo pero dejalo guardado en tu pc.
por favor no perjudiques la buena fama que durante muchos años IORR se ha ganado
I agree with you elmuseo!
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
SoulSurvivor1990
()
Date: June 12, 2024 17:53
He’ll never listen, even though he knows he’s an utter detriment to the community.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
fdajef
()
Date: June 12, 2024 18:25
I'm right ! I doen't why rskino doesn't respect the taper ! Bad vibes
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
hj3009
()
Date: June 12, 2024 19:29
Quote
elmuseo
Rskinno, warum bestehst du darauf, Audios zu „mastern“, die andere Leute aufgenommen haben? Jetzt ist iorr eine Website, die in vielen Foren davon abgeraten wird, Beiträge zu teilen … weil es einen bestimmten „Rskinno“ gibt, der sie sofort zerstört. .Ich denke, dass Ihre Sturheit ... iorr nur zu einer Website macht, die für diese Praktiken fast gehasst wird.
Wenn Sie die Tonerzeugung erlernen möchten, tun Sie es, aber lassen Sie es auf Ihrem PC gespeichert.
Bitte beschädigen Sie nicht den guten Ruf, den IORR seit vielen Jahren genießt
Icono de Validado por la comunidad
Sugerencias
Rskinno, why do you insist on "mastering" audios that other people have recorded...now iorr is a website that is discouraged in many forums from sharing posts...because there is a certain "rskinno" who immediately destroys them...I think That your stubbornness... only makes iorr a website that is almost hated for these practices.
If you want to learn sound production... do it but leave it saved on your PC.
please do not harm the good reputation that IORR has earned for many years
Rskinno, ¿por que te empeñas en "masterizar" audios que ha grabado otra gente...ahora iorr es una web que desaconsejan en muchos foros compartir post..porque hay un tal "rskinno" que inmediatamente los destroza....creo que tu empecinamiento..solo logra que iorr sea una web casi odiada por estas practicas.
si quieres aprender produccion de sonido..hazlo pero dejalo guardado en tu pc.
por favor no perjudiques la buena fama que durante muchos años IORR se ha ganado
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: June 12, 2024 19:44
People are free to download and listen to what they want to.
Any taper who feels seriously damaged or disrespected by him should probably bring it up with their therapist.
Any taper who feels seriously damaged or disrespected by him should probably bring it up with their therapist.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: June 12, 2024 19:47
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-12 21:23 by EddieByword.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-12 21:23 by EddieByword.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
mjmjr
()
Date: June 12, 2024 21:59
Quote
elmuseo
Rskinno, why do you insist on "mastering" audios that other people have recorded...now iorr is a website that is discouraged in many forums from sharing posts...because there is a certain "rskinno" who immediately destroys them...I think That your stubbornness... only makes iorr a website that is almost hated for these practices.
If you want to learn sound production... do it but leave it saved on your PC.
please do not harm the good reputation that IORR has earned for many years
I agree. Tapers go through a lot to get these tapes done, so I don't blame them one bit for keeping them to themselves.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
TravellinMan
()
Date: June 12, 2024 22:15
Burglars go through a lot to acquire items they don't own. That does not make the items theirs. Tapers who "trade" items they don't own for other items of value are just small time bootleggers
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
mjmjr
()
Date: June 12, 2024 22:46
nobody will ever agree on this subject.
I side with the tapers on this one. Rskino has single handedly ruined Stones shows from being shared, and that is a fact. Dan is a taper and doesn't really care, but he seems to be in the minority on this subject.
Everyone is different. To me...It's all about preserving a memory. We love our band and we are all want whatever is out there. It is not about money. Nobody who tapes is selling. I wish the stones made their shows available like Bruce, but it doesn't seem that will ever happen. It is what it is. Can we please just put this subject to bed already.
Let's enjoy what we have, and hope the band just keeps on rolling.....they are on fire right now.
I side with the tapers on this one. Rskino has single handedly ruined Stones shows from being shared, and that is a fact. Dan is a taper and doesn't really care, but he seems to be in the minority on this subject.
Everyone is different. To me...It's all about preserving a memory. We love our band and we are all want whatever is out there. It is not about money. Nobody who tapes is selling. I wish the stones made their shows available like Bruce, but it doesn't seem that will ever happen. It is what it is. Can we please just put this subject to bed already.
Let's enjoy what we have, and hope the band just keeps on rolling.....they are on fire right now.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
toomanycds
()
Date: June 12, 2024 23:27
another vote for elmuseo's well stated opinion
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
wupperstein
()
Date: June 12, 2024 23:31
The tapers should also think about the fans, who don't have enough money to buy expensive bootlegs and still want to enjoy good concert recordings of our favorite band.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
dennycranium
()
Date: June 13, 2024 00:10
Not to mention that these are AUDIENCE recordings.
You can only polish them up so much.
To Rskinno?
I'm a member of various trading groups and torrent sites.
Your name is now Kryptonite to other tapers.
I've heard snippets of IEM recordings, excellent audience and matrix.
Tapers have now closed the ranks and won't share them widely, because you REFUSE to respect their wishes. You go and mangle their recordings against their wishes.
One guy I'm acquainted with has SOUNDBOARD shows from 2015 on. They most likely will never see the light of day.
If you want to tweak a show? Fine. Just enjoy it personally.
You can only polish them up so much.
To Rskinno?
I'm a member of various trading groups and torrent sites.
Your name is now Kryptonite to other tapers.
I've heard snippets of IEM recordings, excellent audience and matrix.
Tapers have now closed the ranks and won't share them widely, because you REFUSE to respect their wishes. You go and mangle their recordings against their wishes.
One guy I'm acquainted with has SOUNDBOARD shows from 2015 on. They most likely will never see the light of day.
If you want to tweak a show? Fine. Just enjoy it personally.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: June 13, 2024 01:06
"Tapers have now closed the ranks and won't share them widely, because you REFUSE to respect their wishes. You go and mangle their recordings against their wishes."
To be honest only a smattering of people are complaining about it. I am not aware of any "closed ranks" because of some geezer with severe OCD.
I know a few people who don't share and it really has nothing to do with him or the universe revolving around their rig.
To be honest only a smattering of people are complaining about it. I am not aware of any "closed ranks" because of some geezer with severe OCD.
I know a few people who don't share and it really has nothing to do with him or the universe revolving around their rig.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
wupperstein
()
Date: June 13, 2024 01:26
I think it's a little selfish of the tapers not to make their recordings available to their loyal fans.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
daspyknows
()
Date: June 13, 2024 01:28
Quote
wupperstein
The tapers should also think about the fans, who don't have enough money to buy expensive bootlegs and still want to enjoy good concert recordings of our favorite band.
Many just buy for "artwork" even when freely available. I had a discussion with a guy who buys everything because it's an investment even if he could download for free.
Travelinman sounds like someone who never leaves his mommy's basement. He also makes false accusations out of sheer ignorance so he is on team skinno.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: June 13, 2024 02:38
Quote
wupperstein
I think it's a little selfish of the tapers not to make their recordings available to their loyal fans.
It's often a personal endeavor with little knowledge of or involvement in any outside community. That's how it was with the person who recorded all the mystery drive stuff. Only a chance meeting in 1994 turned it loose. There is or was so much more in existence than you could ever imagine but it's not being "hoarded" as discussed here.
Drives me crazy, more the lower level stuff than just another show on a tour that played to millions. Includes radio broadcast stuff.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
TravellinMan
()
Date: June 13, 2024 04:19
Travelinman sounds like someone who never leaves his mommy's basement. He also makes false accusations out of shing?eer ignorance so he is on team skinno.[/quote]
And daspysays you need to go back to law school and retake the course on intellectual property. Maybe yiu just overslept that day? Didn't you suggest in one of your posts you had legal training?
And daspysays you need to go back to law school and retake the course on intellectual property. Maybe yiu just overslept that day? Didn't you suggest in one of your posts you had legal training?
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
toomanycds
()
Date: June 13, 2024 05:46
It seems to me the majority of the shares for the 2024 tour are youtube video compilations with AI enhanced audio. 5/30 Farv4's aud stands out as a high quality capture but it seems to me there are far fewer high end equipment, lossless recordings. Is it the result of chance, fewer tapers, rskinno, or simply my erratic anecdotal observations? I have to agree that respecting the spirit of the taper's requests is more important than following the letter of the law. Cheers to the Stones rolling along in their 80s and to IORR for its members' generosity.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
gonzalo76
()
Date: June 13, 2024 07:04
The problem is that rskinno doesn't know how to remaster, not to mention that he doesn't ask for permission to do so either. But if CaptainAcid does the remastering, I would be more than grateful if it were my recording.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
elmuseo
()
Date: June 13, 2024 07:33
That's exactly the big problemQuote
gonzalo76
The problem is that rskinno doesn't know how to remaster, not to mention that he doesn't ask for permission to do so either. But if CaptainAcid does the remastering, I would be more than grateful if it were my recording.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
daspyknows
()
Date: June 13, 2024 09:30
Quote
TravellinMan
Travelinman sounds like someone who never leaves his mommy's basement. He also makes false accusations out of shing?eer ignorance so he is on team skinno.
And daspysays you need to go back to law school and retake the course on intellectual property. Maybe yiu just overslept that day? Didn't you suggest in one of your posts you had legal training?[/quote]
Maybe you are mistaken. The person you are referring to is a friend of mine who is also a taper. In fact 2 of my friends who are tapers are attorneys and I respect their opinions much more than you who is a Kenneth Cheeseboro type of attorney.
So Teavelinboy besides the bathroom and kitchen where do you travel? What I know is you make false accusations and you lack any legal training besides being butthurt I won't post my stuff publicly which means you don't get it.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: June 13, 2024 10:26
Quote
dennycranium
Not to mention that these are AUDIENCE recordings.
You can only polish them up so much.
To Rskinno?
I'm a member of various trading groups and torrent sites.
Your name is now Kryptonite to other tapers.
I've heard snippets of IEM recordings, excellent audience and matrix.
Tapers have now closed the ranks and won't share them widely, because you REFUSE to respect their wishes. You go and mangle their recordings against their wishes.
One guy I'm acquainted with has SOUNDBOARD shows from 2015 on. They most likely will never see the light of day.
If you want to tweak a show? Fine. Just enjoy it personally.
this is off topic but i was gonna start a thread asking what soundboards are known or rumored to exist in private collections
i like reading through old threads here on iorr and i keep coming across people mentioning recordings that they've heard or that they know that people have and it's always fun and frustrating to read these posts
because things that i've read are out there (like soundboards of altamount, or a soundboard of a calfornia show from 1972, or someone claiming there are complete pro shot videos of essentially every show from 89 onward in private collections) are likely never gonna see the light of day
and it's sad because the stones are never gonna release this stuff because the audience for it is so small and ever shrinking as the kind of fans that would be into this are dying off or moving on and rskinno is just making it worst by scaring off those that might be willing to share
so thanks for the tid bit of info that someone out there has actual uncirculated soundboards from recent tours
i sure hope charlie's last show is in his collection
even though it's unlikely this person would ever share it i'd still rank it as more likley then the band releasing it
to dapsy and all the tapers who are upset about rskinno what would it take for you all to share here again?
do you want rskinno to stop or apologize or is there truly nothing that will convince them to share?
or is it more about the bootleggers selling these recordings?
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
falo01
()
Date: June 13, 2024 16:19
Quote
ProfessorWolfQuote
dennycranium
Not to mention that these are AUDIENCE recordings.
You can only polish them up so much.
To Rskinno?
I'm a member of various trading groups and torrent sites.
Your name is now Kryptonite to other tapers.
I've heard snippets of IEM recordings, excellent audience and matrix.
Tapers have now closed the ranks and won't share them widely, because you REFUSE to respect their wishes. You go and mangle their recordings against their wishes.
One guy I'm acquainted with has SOUNDBOARD shows from 2015 on. They most likely will never see the light of day.
If you want to tweak a show? Fine. Just enjoy it personally.
this is off topic but i was gonna start a thread asking what soundboards are known or rumored to exist in private collections
i like reading through old threads here on iorr and i keep coming across people mentioning recordings that they've heard or that they know that people have and it's always fun and frustrating to read these posts
because things that i've read are out there (like soundboards of altamount, or a soundboard of a calfornia show from 1972, or someone claiming there are complete pro shot videos of essentially every show from 89 onward in private collections) are likely never gonna see the light of day
and it's sad because the stones are never gonna release this stuff because the audience for it is so small and ever shrinking as the kind of fans that would be into this are dying off or moving on and rskinno is just making it worst by scaring off those that might be willing to share
so thanks for the tid bit of info that someone out there has actual uncirculated soundboards from recent tours
i sure hope charlie's last show is in his collection
even though it's unlikely this person would ever share it i'd still rank it as more likley then the band releasing it
to dapsy and all the tapers who are upset about rskinno what would it take for you all to share here again?
do you want rskinno to stop or apologize or is there truly nothing that will convince them to share?
or is it more about the bootleggers selling these recordings?
I personally doubt that all of a sudden there are so many SBDs out there in the taper community, maybe a few, but all of a sudden a lot, I don't think so.
But that's not the point anyway. Besides that, I wouldn't share them in public anyway, because obviously I would get my source in some trouble because the number
of people who originally leaked it from an inside source are limited.
I guess it's more because of making money by selling them, which is a valid point when you consider the expenses of the tapers (travelling, tickets & equipment).
Another point is: Some taper just share their RAW recording, saying that whoever wants to play around with it, should have a go.
People like daspyknows obviously share a finished and optimised recording which they consider the best sounding option of it. There is no need to remaster it anymore....
I think the same about my latest recordings, but if someone wants to try it,
well do it, although it's kinda annoying to have multiple versions of 1 recording out there.
A decade ago, I was trying to matrix perfect recordings just because I was curious about the result, how it would sound. It's an objective point to say there is no need for those experiments most of the time.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-06-13 17:00 by falo01.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
TurningToGold2
()
Date: June 13, 2024 17:21
At this point, roughly halfway through the tour, it is a fact that quality recordings are not surfacing, because of Rskinno.
We are still waiting for quality recordings of Atlanta, Orlando and now Philly.
And if I recall correctly, the same thing happened on previous tours -- early in the tour, the first few recordings would appear within days of the show, Rskinno would flood the board with his precious "remasters" and then the unremastered source recordings would eventually start to dry up, as the tour got further and further into it.
It's happened before! There is a feeling of deja vu about this whole thing.
Unfortunately for all of us, he will never "get it," he will never change, and there's probably nothing any of us can do about it, except try and find recordings from other sources besides this forum and hope we get lucky. I've dealt with these types of people before in my personal life, and there's no changing them.
We are still waiting for quality recordings of Atlanta, Orlando and now Philly.
And if I recall correctly, the same thing happened on previous tours -- early in the tour, the first few recordings would appear within days of the show, Rskinno would flood the board with his precious "remasters" and then the unremastered source recordings would eventually start to dry up, as the tour got further and further into it.
It's happened before! There is a feeling of deja vu about this whole thing.
Unfortunately for all of us, he will never "get it," he will never change, and there's probably nothing any of us can do about it, except try and find recordings from other sources besides this forum and hope we get lucky. I've dealt with these types of people before in my personal life, and there's no changing them.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: June 13, 2024 19:05
Quote
TurningToGold2
At this point, roughly halfway through the tour, it is a fact that quality recordings are not surfacing, because of Rskinno.
That's a bit of a stretch.
But if he has that much "power," I don't blame him for wielding it, just because.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: June 13, 2024 19:07
Quote
ProfessorWolf
this is off topic but i was gonna start a thread asking what soundboards are known or rumored to exist in private collections
i like reading through old threads here on iorr and i keep coming across people mentioning recordings that they've heard or that they know that people have and it's always fun and frustrating to read these posts
because things that i've read are out there (like soundboards of altamount, or a soundboard of a calfornia show from 1972, or someone claiming there are complete pro shot videos of essentially every show from 89 onward in private collections) are likely never gonna see the light of day
and it's sad because the stones are never gonna release this stuff because the audience for it is so small and ever shrinking as the kind of fans that would be into this are dying off or moving on and rskinno is just making it worst by scaring off those that might be willing to share
so thanks for the tid bit of info that someone out there has actual uncirculated soundboards from recent tours
i sure hope charlie's last show is in his collection
even though it's unlikely this person would ever share it i'd still rank it as more likley then the band releasing it
to dapsy and all the tapers who are upset about rskinno what would it take for you all to share here again?
do you want rskinno to stop or apologize or is there truly nothing that will convince them to share?
or is it more about the bootleggers selling these recordings?
Just imagine just about every show that ever happened was recorded in some form.
And for every one there is a story for why or why you don't have it.
I would imagine some people need an ego check and not much us mere mortals can do about that.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
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Date: June 13, 2024 19:57
BTW quality recordings have been made of Philadelphia (36 HOURS AGO) but at least one of the tapers is still sleeping it off.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Bol
()
Date: June 13, 2024 20:14
This is a very annoying situation as I would love to have a copy of daspyknows recording of East Rutherford II after the sample of MR was posted a few weeks back.
I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to take credit for someone else's recording or 'remastering' it. As a taper myself, I have not really been that bothered what people have done with my recordings on this board as we are all fans together but generally people have given me credit in their posted artwork. I was a bit p*ssed when my name was mentioned on Sugarmegs regarding my 2012 02 recordings though. I don't know if any of my recordings have ever made it onto silvers.
I know what it is like going through the stress of smuggling a recorder into a venue having been caught twice and thrown out once. Fans who do not make recordings will have no idea what this feels like.
A minority spoiling it for the majority on this board.
I have absolutely no idea why anyone would want to take credit for someone else's recording or 'remastering' it. As a taper myself, I have not really been that bothered what people have done with my recordings on this board as we are all fans together but generally people have given me credit in their posted artwork. I was a bit p*ssed when my name was mentioned on Sugarmegs regarding my 2012 02 recordings though. I don't know if any of my recordings have ever made it onto silvers.
I know what it is like going through the stress of smuggling a recorder into a venue having been caught twice and thrown out once. Fans who do not make recordings will have no idea what this feels like.
A minority spoiling it for the majority on this board.
Re: To rskinno
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: June 13, 2024 22:18
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The tapers should also think about the fans, who don't have enough money to buy expensive bootlegs and still want to enjoy good concert recordings of our favorite band.
Many just buy for "artwork" even when freely available. I had a discussion with a guy who buys everything because it's an investment even if he could download for free.
Yep, I know 2 people who buy all Led Zeppelin just for the artwork.
One lives with his mom while paying for at least 2 storage units. No way to "fight" that mindset but it's pretty benign as far as mental illness goes, assuming his mother isn't placed in any danger by his collection or his behavior.
Personally I don't get the interest in artwork especially since most of it rarely corresponds with the actual recording.
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