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Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: May 6, 2024 20:38

I just want to mention that I have read the comments and am unconvinced. I note that there is no mention of the quality of this remaster. And I repeat that I think it is selfish to withhold material. But I have deleted liltendis version.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: May 6, 2024 21:08

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daspyknows
The taper does not have an account on here to post but he is not pleased. He does not plan to post future Stones shows on this tour. That makes 6 tapers I know of. Why don't the rskinnos go record their own shows once in awhilie.

C'mon s, we are not the same ... Most people here don't sell a thing.

mariano

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: May 6, 2024 21:08

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mariano
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daspyknows
The taper does not have an account on here to post but he is not pleased. He does not plan to post future Stones shows on this tour. That makes 6 tapers I know of. Why don't the rskinnos go record their own shows once in awhilie.

C'mon sr, we are not the same ... Most people here don't sell a thing.

mariano

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: May 6, 2024 21:54

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TravellinMan
I just want to mention that I have read the comments and am unconvinced. I note that there is no mention of the quality of this remaster. And I repeat that I think it is selfish to withhold material. But I have deleted liltendis version.

I prefer to have all shows recorded and shared than one show in better quality and others not shared.
Here you got mention of the quality of this remaster.
Now, what is selfish:
I won't share because my wishes are not respected
or
Look people how nice my remaster is? And excuse me please not to respect the tapers' wishes and because of my wonderful remaster you won't get other recordings.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: May 6, 2024 21:55

The only and one thing Mr Skin is loking after: his ego and people wondering him.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: May 6, 2024 22:16

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hj3009
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TravellinMan
I just want to mention that I have read the comments and am unconvinced. I note that there is no mention of the quality of this remaster. And I repeat that I think it is selfish to withhold material. But I have deleted liltendis version.

I prefer to have all shows recorded and shared than one show in better quality and others not shared.
Here you got mention of the quality of this remaster.
Now, what is selfish:
I won't share because my wishes are not respected
or
Look people how nice my remaster is? And excuse me please not to respect the tapers' wishes and because of my wonderful remaster you won't get other recordings.
.
I prefer one good show to many. But thanks for suggesting that rskinno's is an upgrade. I also think that sometimes most consistently reliable people occasionally put up a klunker. I download, listen, compare, and delete. Why should your wishes for every show trump my desire for quality? Now you might be tempted to say again that the tapers' wishes should be respected. The taper owns the tape machine and the physical tape but not the performance. By the way, if you see me put up something you. Daspy, lilT, anyone who agrees with them yiu don't need my permission to download it. Happy to share.

Enough of this.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 6, 2024 23:07

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TravellinMan
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hj3009
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TravellinMan
I just want to mention that I have read the comments and am unconvinced. I note that there is no mention of the quality of this remaster. And I repeat that I think it is selfish to withhold material. But I have deleted liltendis version.

I prefer to have all shows recorded and shared than one show in better quality and others not shared.
Here you got mention of the quality of this remaster.
Now, what is selfish:
I won't share because my wishes are not respected
or
Look people how nice my remaster is? And excuse me please not to respect the tapers' wishes and because of my wonderful remaster you won't get other recordings.
.
I prefer one good show to many. But thanks for suggesting that rskinno's is an upgrade. I also think that sometimes most consistently reliable people occasionally put up a klunker. I download, listen, compare, and delete. Why should your wishes for every show trump my desire for quality? Now you might be tempted to say again that the tapers' wishes should be respected. The taper owns the tape machine and the physical tape but not the performance. By the way, if you see me put up something you. Daspy, lilT, anyone who agrees with them yiu don't need my permission to download it. Happy to share.

Enough of this.

I don't plan to download anything you post. Don't worry about that. I expect to either record myself or get the uncurculated copies my taper friends make for the shows I miss. I see comments that most people don't sell but that's not this issue when one does. Just to be clear, it's the recording device, the microphones, the expensive tickets and travel expenses. I don't care either way if thousands of people hear my recordings. I don't benefit in any way. I get satisfaction if my friends can hear it and they aren't remastering and selling. I will also freely share the other 22 sets I recorded on this trip. There are not people remastering or selling the other stuff.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-05-06 23:10 by daspyknows.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: May 7, 2024 19:44

I guess we are not friends. I will add that zi do not think you own the tape once the performance is on it.

When hobs posted the lilT version of New Orleans I laughed at the don't remaster comment. It was as if he was begging for it to happen. And when I saw that rskinno had done a remaster I almost fell out of my chair. Who would gave guessed it would be an upgrade?

My last comment is not directed specifically at you. I don't like people who try to push people off a board.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: hobshobs1 ()
Date: May 7, 2024 20:41

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TravellinMan
When hobs posted the lilT version of New Orleans I laughed at the don't remaster comment. It was as if he was begging for it to happen.

I bet you didn't laugh half as hard as I am at your comment above. There have been some classics on here through the years but you have managed a post that is on a whole new level of farce. Congratulations.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: May 7, 2024 20:59

Thank you.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: hj3009 ()
Date: May 7, 2024 21:35

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TravellinMan
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hj3009
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TravellinMan
I just want to mention that I have read the comments and am unconvinced. I note that there is no mention of the quality of this remaster. And I repeat that I think it is selfish to withhold material. But I have deleted liltendis version.

I prefer to have all shows recorded and shared than one show in better quality and others not shared.
Here you got mention of the quality of this remaster.
Now, what is selfish:
I won't share because my wishes are not respected
or
Look people how nice my remaster is? And excuse me please not to respect the tapers' wishes and because of my wonderful remaster you won't get other recordings.
.
I prefer one good show to many. But thanks for suggesting that rskinno's is an upgrade. I also think that sometimes most consistently reliable people occasionally put up a klunker. I download, listen, compare, and delete. Why should your wishes for every show trump my desire for quality? Now you might be tempted to say again that the tapers' wishes should be respected. The taper owns the tape machine and the physical tape but not the performance. By the way, if you see me put up something you. Daspy, lilT, anyone who agrees with them yiu don't need my permission to download it. Happy to share.

Enough of this.

Not sure you exactly understood what I wrote; never mind!
Maybe you'll not get very good, excellent recordings because of Mr Sin whose only goal is to make the buzz here @ IORR, other very good, excellent recordings made by people who tell you the lineage. Just have a look here @ Mr Sin's upload:
[iorr.org]
Does he or she tell you where he or she got it from?
Does he or she tell you if he or she record that himself?
But that doesn'nt interest you, does it?

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 7, 2024 23:30

The original taper asked me to post this since he can't post here.

"Lil Tendies here - I was shown the comment thread on IORR and things played out exactly as I thought they would. I specifically requested that IORR people not publicly muck with the recording to see what would happen and lo and behold less than 72 hours later a classic rsKinno post appeared with a remixed (not remastered) version of the audio along with some wackass explanation about how it was justified. I can't say that I am surprised but I am disappointed that its the case.

The thing is, I would have been fine with a remix had someone ASKED. In the original text file there is a link to a website run by TJ and from there there's a gmail address that you could have emailed to ask if 1. A remix was ok and 2. If you could have the original WAV file to do a proper remaster which would have been given out. It is not hard to get ahold of TJ as he's not some secretive, mysterious taper and the fact that no one bothered to ask what the deal was speaks volumes about the type of people doing these remasters. Neither of us admit to being audio engineers or anything close to resembling one but when you see remasters being done of YouTube rips and files being distributed without recording information attached you can't help but realize that your recordings are being remixed by a bunch of gilligans who seem to think that by virtue of downloading Audacity that they are
proficient at audio engineering.

There are some comments about tapers owning the gear but not the performance. And that's correct to some degree: I've never been able to ask Mick, Keith, or Ronnie if I could record the performance post to the internet so I don't have permission. If I ever had the opportunity to meet them I definitely would even at the risk of getting kicked out of the venue. But for Jazz Fest I got there early after spending hundreds on travel and board, sneaked in a load of expensive gear, got a spot that would be acceptable to tape in, and then held that spot for hours in 100% humidity while fighting off the hordes of drunk festival goers that attempted to push forward to get to as close to the stage as they could, made sure that I was able to get a relatively chatty-free tape, and then had the tape posted less than two hours after the show had finished. The folks here that then attempt to apply or
associate their name to that effort, whether it be a remix OR coming up with cheesy art to repackage as a "box set" or whatever, had no hand in that. If you want to actually contribute back please go out with a set of "real" gear (your VoiceApp on your iPhone doesn't count), record the show, and post after doing whatever edits you deem necessary and coming up with your own artwork. Otherwise you're attempting to attach your name to an effort that you had no part in and for that you should be ashamed. And for those pontificating about ownership I would say the same to you: go on out and record but otherwise shut up.

To the folks that rightfully dunked on this guy I applaud you and thank you for commenting. All I had was a simple request to see if a tape could not be publicly remastered and the usual suspects failed miserably. I hope that other tapers decide to share their recordings this tour but I would imagine that many after this are going to opt to keep them close to their chest."

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: silkcut1978_ ()
Date: May 8, 2024 01:07

It could be so easy - why don't you keep your recordings and exchange them with each other without going public?

My son wanted to listen to Whole Wide World and so I played Lil's recording but we were both disgusted with the sound and ended up on YouTube - and lo and behold we heard a great recording with the benfit of a visual component. The recording apps on the phones does a better job than your expensive gear.

You guys NEVER met the Standard of the tapers of LA 7/13/75 or NYC 6/27/75, Essen and Hamburg 1973 from "The Stars In The Sky..."- you didn't even get any close to it and in the end it's all about tinny sound and inflated ego.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: May 8, 2024 02:22

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silkcut1978_
It could be so easy - why don't you keep your recordings and exchange them with each other without going public?

My son wanted to listen to Whole Wide World and so I played Lil's recording but we were both disgusted with the sound and ended up on YouTube - and lo and behold we heard a great recording with the benfit of a visual component. The recording apps on the phones does a better job than your expensive gear.

You guys NEVER met the Standard of the tapers of LA 7/13/75 or NYC 6/27/75, Essen and Hamburg 1973 from "The Stars In The Sky..."- you didn't even get any close to it and in the end it's all about tinny sound and inflated ego.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

thumbs up ... And now one of them is trying to dictate whether someone can make artwork for their recording or not. Out of their minds comes to mind.....@#$%& me, what is this new breed of bootlegger?

Pretentious I would say.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: rskinno ()
Date: May 8, 2024 02:50

Intresant to read all this here !!!
but nobody mentions that what is posted on IORR is REMASTERED on CD in Arsien and sold worldwide.
If you love your recordings, keep them and don't post them and after their
dead they will be buried with them. My recordings and remasters will live on.

rskinno

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 8, 2024 03:29

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rskinno
Intresant to read all this here !!!
but nobody mentions that what is posted on IORR is REMASTERED on CD in Arsien and sold worldwide.
If you love your recordings, keep them and don't post them and after their
dead they will be buried with them. My recordings and remasters will live on.

rskinno

What a clown. The thing is this nonsense only happens with Stones recordings. The recordings are shared but not publicly because of people like YOU. Limiting distribution of Stones recordings doesn't bother me if the alternative is to have you mess with it. It will be heard by others, just kept out of your slimy hands. There are people who I would be ok if they remastered my recordings because they know what they are doing but I have heard your work and you paint mustaches on Mona Lisas. If you like how they sound keep it to yourself instead of urinating in the trading pool.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: rskinno ()
Date: May 8, 2024 04:06

Are you ill? Are you getting treatment?
It's not my topic what you're saying.

rsKinno

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 8, 2024 04:39

Nope, I am fine. What is not your topic? Not being a remasterbater? Why don't you buy gear and tape your shows. Build some credibility rather than butchering recordings because YOU think they sound good with your fancy 2 Euro earbuds.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: May 8, 2024 04:45

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daspyknows
Quote
rskinno
Intresant to read all this here !!!
but nobody mentions that what is posted on IORR is REMASTERED on CD in Arsien and sold worldwide.
If you love your recordings, keep them and don't post them and after their
dead they will be buried with them. My recordings and remasters will live on.

rskinno

What a clown. The thing is this nonsense only happens with Stones recordings. The recordings are shared but not publicly because of people like YOU. Limiting distribution of Stones recordings doesn't bother me if the alternative is to have you mess with it. It will be heard by others, just kept out of your slimy hands. There are people who I would be ok if they remastered my recordings because they know what they are doing but I have heard your work and you paint mustaches on Mona Lisas. If you like how they sound keep it to yourself instead of urinating in the trading pool.

If you're seriously comparing your slightly hollow amateur recordings (which nevertheless are acceptable for what they are: boots) to the Mona Lisa, then rskinno is right, you really do need professional help.

Having said that, you do know that the Mona Lisa originally did have a moustache (you know what these Italian girls can be like) but Moira (her actual name) didn't like it. Leo named the painting Mona because she wouldn't stop moaning 'til he painted over it......

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 8, 2024 05:45

Hmmm. you heard my recording of Jazzfest? I don't think so.... but then you are one of skinno's laptops so believe what you want. Enjoy your youtube recordings. Just like being there in the rafters.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: May 8, 2024 06:15

Hi daspy
Any chance to get that Recording?
Thank You in advence

m

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 8, 2024 06:32

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mariano
Hi daspy
Any chance to get that Recording?
Thank You in advence

m

In due time it will be shared. A "watermarked" version will be shared so if it ends up for sale or rskinnoed I will know who leaked it. I have 22 sets from Daze Between and Jazzfest to track and upload and I leave Friday for Vegas and Seattle.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: May 8, 2024 06:52

ok

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: May 8, 2024 09:55

Quote
daspyknows
Hmmm. you heard my recording of Jazzfest? I don't think so.... but then you are one of skinno's laptops so believe what you want. Enjoy your youtube recordings. Just like being there in the rafters.

In fact, I disagreed with RSk playing with the New orleans recording, even if he did improve it, when the notes came with a specific request not to and I said so at the beginning of this thread but that doesn't mean I don't recognise a bunch of diva prima donnas when I encounter them. I've listened to Little Ted's New Orleans (No making of artwork please! - are you serious? - yes, serious delusions of grandeur!) and will listen to yours when I get it but probably won't again unless the Stones release it officially,,,,,so, no great loss.

I've only listened to your Hyde park 22 twice and I was there..........They are ok but not that important if 'you' have a life.



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Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 8, 2024 18:28

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EddieByword
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daspyknows
Hmmm. you heard my recording of Jazzfest? I don't think so.... but then you are one of skinno's laptops so believe what you want. Enjoy your youtube recordings. Just like being there in the rafters.

In fact I disagreed with RSk playing with the New orleans recording, even if he did improve it, when the notes came with a specific request not to and I said so at the beginning of this thread but that doesn't mean I don't recognise a bunch of diva prima donnas when I encounter them. I've listened to Little Ted's New Orleans (No making of artwork please! - are you serious? - yes, serious delusions of grandeur!) and will listen to yours when I get it but probably won't again unless the Stones release it officially,,,,,so, no great loss.

I've only listened to your Hyde park 22 twice and I was there..........They are ok but not that important if 'you' have a life.

If I have a life? lololol Don't really care if you do or don't listen to mine and if you are listening to it most likely it will be someone leaked it out and they will be "off my list".

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: May 8, 2024 18:42

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daspyknows
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EddieByword
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daspyknows
Hmmm. you heard my recording of Jazzfest? I don't think so.... but then you are one of skinno's laptops so believe what you want. Enjoy your youtube recordings. Just like being there in the rafters.

In fact I disagreed with RSk playing with the New orleans recording, even if he did improve it, when the notes came with a specific request not to and I said so at the beginning of this thread but that doesn't mean I don't recognise a bunch of diva prima donnas when I encounter them. I've listened to Little Ted's New Orleans (No making of artwork please! - are you serious? - yes, serious delusions of grandeur!) and will listen to yours when I get it but probably won't again unless the Stones release it officially,,,,,so, no great loss.

I've only listened to your Hyde park 22 twice and I was there..........They are ok but not that important if 'you' have a life.

If I have a life? lololol Don't really care if you do or don't listen to mine and if you are listening to it most likely it will be someone leaked it out and they will be "off my list".

Good luck with that....lolololol.....btw, you misread my last comment - I meant "if someone/anyone has a life", they're not that important. Of course we all know you have a "to die for life"....eye rolling smiley...There We Are Then.



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Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: May 8, 2024 20:47

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EddieByword
Good luck with that....lolololol.....btw, you misread my last comment - I meant "if someone/anyone has a life", they're not that important. Of course we all know you have a "to die for life"....eye rolling smiley...There We Are Then.

I thought you were referring to me regarding having a life. Not the case here, but lot of cases on here.

The people who will get the recording will not leak it if they want subsequent shows.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: TravellinMan ()
Date: May 10, 2024 07:21

If anyone makes artwork for either version of this show please put the Mona Lisa on the front cover. With or without a mustache is ok. Title? I Taped it My Way.

He's making a list
He's checking it twice
He's gonna find out
Who's naughty or nice
Santa Claus
Is coming to town



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-05-10 08:31 by TravellinMan.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: May 10, 2024 08:56

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TravellinMan
If anyone makes artwork for either version of this show please put the Mona Lisa on the front cover. With or without a mustache is ok. Title? I Taped it My Way.

He's making a list
He's checking it twice
He's gonna find out
Who's naughty or nice
Santa Claus
Is coming to town


grinning smiley ..... The one with moustache could be "I skinnoed it my way" ..... >grinning smiley<

or...............'Don't get angry with me'......cool smiley



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2024-05-10 11:11 by EddieByword.

Re: POST: The Rolling Stones 2024-05-02 Jazz Festival Fair Grounds Race Course New Orleans, LA
Posted by: hobshobs1 ()
Date: May 10, 2024 09:32

Apologies but I didn't download this rskinno version and the link expired pretty quickly. Does anybody know if it is avaialble elsewhere for download or dare I ask, could some kind soul re upload for me. Sad completist I guess. Thank you.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-05-10 09:33 by hobshobs1.

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