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Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: September 18, 2023 22:22

Some kind soul sent me this copy of King Snake's Keep Your Motor Runnin' with 1969 bonus tracks.

Can anyone identify these bonus tracks?

Sympathy is supposed to be rare.


I revamped the art work, a little.







[we.tl]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-18 22:24 by exilestones.

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: September 18, 2023 22:51

First of all: Many thanks for posting this CD, I was looking for it in another post! smiling smileythumbs up

Tracks 1-8 are a copy of the LP Keep Your Motor Runnin'
Tracks 9-12 are a copy of side 3 of the 4 LP set "Plug In Flush Out" (1SB72).
Exactly:
(C1) Bitch (1972-07-20)
(C2) Midnight Rambler (1972-06-24-1)
(C3) Love In Vain (1972-07-21-2)

The other tracks are not on the original CD, don't know from which '69 show they are, maybe Detroit?

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: sotob ()
Date: September 18, 2023 23:09

Thanks

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: Antonio218 ()
Date: September 18, 2023 23:30

Thank a lot for this.

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: September 19, 2023 02:51

smileys with beer

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: September 19, 2023 04:00

thank you

been wanting this for awhile now

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: September 19, 2023 09:46

by the way... the Keep Your Motor Running tracks from the LP run too fast and should be slowed down by ca. 7.5 %



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-19 12:56 by wiredallnight.

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: Amarant ()
Date: September 19, 2023 10:45

Thanks very much!!!

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: keithpinkmoon ()
Date: September 19, 2023 11:24

Thanks!!! smileys with beer

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: September 19, 2023 12:10

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wiredallnight
First of all: Many thanks for posting this CD, I was looking for it in another post! smiling smileythumbs up

Tracks 1-8 are a copy of the LP Keep Your Motor Runnin'
Tracks 9-12 are a copy of side 3 of the 4 LP set "Plug In Flush Out" (1SB72).
Exactly:
(C1) Bitch (1972-07-20)
(C2) Midnight Rambler (1972-06-24-1)
(C3) Love In Vain (1972-07-21-2)

The other tracks are not on the original CD, don't know from which '69 show they are, maybe Detroit?

Thank you

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: September 19, 2023 12:48

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wiredallnight
by the way... the Keep Your Motor Running tracks from the LP run too fast and should be slowed down by ca. 2.5 %

Thanks for the insight.

I wonder which of the Lost Live Decca Album is best? I put this album aside since the sound wasn't great.

I started researching every "Keep Your Motor Runnin'" and "Lost Live Decca Album." Bootleggers put on any tracks they want and call it "The Lost Live Decca Album" which is bullshit.


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GasLightStreet
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big4
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Rocky Dijon
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TornAndFried
Which recording is the "master that was leaked to radio"?

Courtesy of Nico Zentgraf:

720811A 11th August: THE ROLLING STONES. US radio (WMMS)/(Radio Cleveland).
Broadcast of the unreleased 1972 tour live-album.
- You Can't Always Get What You Want (MJ/KR) - Houston 25.06.72, 1st show
- Sweet Virginia (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 21.07.72, 1st show
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.07.72
- All Down The Line (MJ/KR) -Houston 25.06.72, 1st show
- Happy (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.06.72, 1st show
- Tumbling Dice (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.07.72
- Rip This Joint (MJ/KR) -Fort Worth 24.06.72, 1st show
- Gimme Shelter (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.07.72
- Brown Sugar (MJ/KR) -Philadelphia 20.07.72
- Uptight/Satisfaction (Sylvia Moy/Henry Cosby/Stevie Wonder)(MJ/KR)
-unidentified source, July 1972

I had a boot called Unreleased Decca Live Album that had that running list. At one point Mick mentions corn flakes and the breakfast show which I imagine is from a late morning show in Philly. Who knows if that really was the planned album? I've read that like Ya-Yss the '72 was suppposed to be a double album with one side for Wonder songs but publishing rights issues of his earlier songs killed that idea.

Mid-October 1972: Mick Jagger, Charlie Watts and Bill Wyman spend time in London, performing
overdubs on recordings of the 1972 North American Tour, for a never-released live album.


Keith Richards (1973): A live 1972 album nixed
Another reason for us not doing old songs (onstage) is that Decca have stopped us from releasing new live versions of material recorded on their label. A whole live album with Stevie Wonder on it recorded on the American tour has been scrapped because they've ballsed that up. They've got those songs for six years or something. I mean, if we're recording a live show with old numbers on it, we just can't put the motherfvcker out in the first place because recordings of those songs belong to them until 1976 or whatever.

[timeisonourside.com]


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TravelinMan
I remember one that started with "All Down The Line" which was weird.

Get Your Motor Running has the overdubs and I think was the planned album I believe. What's strange is "You Can't Always..." is mono. I don't understand that.

Anybody got any ideas on that?

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DandelionPowderman
They started the broadcast with two slow numbers?

Well, the original Keep Your Motor Running vinyl bootleg from the early 80's (1983?) has the following running order:

A1 All Down The Line
A2 Bitch
A3 Sweet Virginia
A4 Tumbling Dice
B1 Bye Bye Johnny
B2 Rip This Joint
B3 Gimme Shelter
B4 You Can't Always Get What You Want

Makes a bit more sense keeping in mind that it was going to be a single album (by omitting Brown Sugar, Happy, Uptight/Satisfaction).

As this vinyl bootleg contains overdubbed tracks, it was obviously not dubbed from the WMMS broadcast as there's no way that WMMS could have overdubbed tracks within a couple of weeks after the tour in August, when any overdub sessions supposedly did not happen before October.

It's more likely that the WMMS broadcast was a mere compilation of tracks that were chosen for further work, hence the random running order that has nothing to do with a finalised LP tracklist.

Therefore, Nico's entry should better read:

"Broadcast of a compilation of tracks chosen for the unreleased 1972 tour live-album" instead of misleading into thinking that the broadcast was in fact the finalised album.

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johnnythunders
Here is the version we released

[onlyrockandroll.london]

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kevinkamphuis
[www.worthpoint.com]

"RARE 1972 ROLLING STONES American Tour Reel to Reel Tape From Legendary WMMS in Cleveland. This tape is untested. The box has a track listing and it is as follows: 1. Can't always get what you want 2. Sweet Virginia 3. Bitch 4. All down the line 5. Happy 6. Tumbling Dice 7. Let it rock 8. Gimme Shelter 9. Brown Sugar Leader? 10. Uptight/Satisfaction Medley (with Stevie Wonder) 11. @#$%& Blues Bonus Rare Brown Sugar version with Eric Clapton recorded on Keith's birthday in the studio Total time is approx. 52 Minutes. All the info that I have is from the cover of the box. The tape is "Scotch" brand. It was recorded at 7 1/2 ips in 1/2 track Stereo. I can only speculate that this is similar to the "Keep your motor runnin'"? Bootleg from this tour off of the soundboard, except it say's "Stereo" on the box rather than "Mono". Also it is written on the box that it was "EQ'd" and "Edited". One can only assume it was done professionally with nice equipment, as, once again this was from a legendary Radio Station (WMMS) in Cleveland, OH."




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Father Ted
Sorry to go all collector-completist on the thread but are the tracks on Keep Your Motor Running the same as those on Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly?

Very Ancient has Happy missing, and KYMR is better quality.

Mathijs

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wiredallnight
My optimized version (better sound & smoother transitions):

[we.tl]

Originally taken from CD "Very Ancient, Thank You Kindly┬░ (Scorpio SCO-30), except YCAGWYW from mono vinyl LP "Keep Your Motor Runnin'"

01 Brown Sugar (Philadelphia 20 July 72)
02 Bitch (Philadelphia 20 July 72)
03 Gimme Shelter (Philadelphia 20 July 72)
04 Happy (Fort Worth 24 June 72 1st show)
05 Tumbling Dice (Philadelphia 20 July 72)
06 Sweet Virginia (Philadelphia 21 July 72 1st show)
07 You Can't Always Get What You Want (Houston 25 June 72 1st show)
08 All Down The Line (Houston 25 June 72 1st show)
09 Bye Bye Johnny (Philadelphia 20 July 72)(probably)
10 Rip This Joint (Fort Worth 24 June 72 1st show)
11 Uptight/Satisfaction (Philadelphia 20 July 72)(probably)

PS. My first rougher attempt ended on VGP-243 Keep Your Motor Running


You got It! I missed this download!

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Rocky Dijon
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big4

I had a boot called Unreleased Decca Live Album that had that running list. Who knows if that really was the planned album?

A standard bootlegged soundboard of a 1972 show wouldn't lead off with YCAGWYW and deliberately omit songs that were on YA-YA'S. Whether it was the final version of the album before it was scrapped, I couldn't say definitively, but it's a lineup they were planning for their sides of the LP.

As for the publishing rights scrapping the project, it was ABKCO not Motown that was the problem.


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Sighunt


I haven't played it in a while (somewhere in a pile of CDs), but the track listing was something like:

1. Brown Sugar
2. Bitch
3. Gimme Shelter
4. Happy
5. Tumbling Dice
6. Sweet Virginia
7. You Can't Always Get What You Want
8. All Down the Line
9. Bye Bye Johnny
10. Rip This Joint
11. Uptight / (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction

and left out other tracks that had previously appeared on Ya Yas like Jack Flash, Love In Vain, Street Fighting Man, etc. as not to duplicate. Also, from what I remember (someone can certainly tell me if I'm inaccurate), I think there were overdubs on some of these tracks which leads me to believe that this may have been intended for commercial release.



I think there is credibility to only using songs that did not appear on Ya Ya's. I've heard that idea before and it makes sense. Who really knows?

As I said, people take liberties and put out whatever they want and call it the Lost Album. Robert Reeder (Sister Morphine) didn't use any tracks from Philadelphia.

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: September 19, 2023 15:25

THX

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: September 19, 2023 16:00

Thanks a lot for sharing this gem exilestones.

1969 tracks are from Detroit as wiredallnight presumed.

@wiredallnight: thanks for identifying tracks 9-11.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-19 16:09 by Rank Stranger.

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: September 19, 2023 18:28

smileys with beer

Re: Keep Your Motor Runnin' KS-004-CD w1969 Bonus Tracks
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: September 19, 2023 18:50

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Quique-stone
smileys with beer

thumbs up


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stonesmuziekfan
THX

thumbs up


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Rank Stranger
Thanks a lot for sharing this gem exilestones.

1969 tracks are from Detroit as wiredallnight presumed.

@wiredallnight: thanks for identifying tracks 9-11.



Thanks, Rank! Thanks, @wiredallnight

I hope these Detroit tracks are better than what we had, idk.



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