I saw that since 2020 some changes have been made on Nico's website, songs moved
of date or other new discoveries.

Can you post if they're out or tell me where to find these four songs that I can't find?
I think it's useful for all of us who have been collecting the outtakes in chronological order for years.
I can contribute too, and sometimes I do, but I'm not as prepared as many of you.


741205A
- Wonder (MJ/KR?) -maybe early version of Worried About You



750122A

- Chuck Berry No (MJ/KR) -instrumental jam with Harvey Mandel

801011B

- Heaven III (MJ/KR) -edited intro, less falsettos, better mix than in version II


811040C
- Hang Fire VII (MJ/KR) -Gary Lyons-mix, very close to the finished version


830130A
Undercover Of The Night III (MJ/KR) -first (proper) take played all the way through, acoustic guitar driven, with early lyrics

Thanks to all for sharing.



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i think Heaven III is from Art Collins Tape



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Chuck Berry No: [we.tl]

See [iorr.org]

Thanks wiredallnight

I found this

Heaven III Undercover III

Soomebody can check it.

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hulloder
I found this

Heaven III Undercover III

Soomebody can check it.

I think that's correct.

thanks.

Thank you! Undercover III is pretty awesome

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coffeepotman
Thank you! Undercover III is pretty awesome

Thanks to Davie137 for sharing the first time

Help me to find "Wonder" and "Hang fire VII" if exist.



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THX

Does Nico have a list of the latest changes or did you compile that yourself?

Recent additions would have been "Fragile (like China)" and "Hide Your Love" too.

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hulloder
I found this

Heaven III Undercover III

Soomebody can check it.

Thanks

Do you have more of the unknown versions like 'Undercover III'?
that would be nice to show them

rsKinno

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gotdablouse
Does Nico have a list of the latest changes or did you compile that yourself?

Recent additions would have been "Fragile (like China)" and "Hide Your Love" too.

I got it from his site. from the pages relating to those years.

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hulloder
I found this

Heaven III Undercover III

Soomebody can check it.

Thanks

Do you have more of the unknown versions like 'Undercover III'?
that would be nice to show them

rsKinno

Everything I have I got from Stonyroad posts and yours.

Some weeks after the appearance of the Fully Finished Studio Outtakes somebody shared 8 more new outtakes here on IORR. This Undercover III was included there.

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wiredallnight
Some weeks after the appearance of the Fully Finished Studio Outtakes somebody shared 8 more new outtakes here on IORR. This Undercover III was included there.

was that the one with Jagger having a really raspy voice ?
there were 8 songs released ? if i remember correctly i got only 7

It was 7 tracks as detailed here : [iorr.org]

"March 30th : Another nice surprise in 2021 with IORR member Davie137 sharing 7 new unbooted tracks from 1982, 1993 and 1997 with two songs not previously known of : "Ronnie's Song" and "Don't Want Somebody Else" (not the similarly titled 1985 track). Details and download links here [iorr.org] 2022 Update : original post has been edited out so you can download the tracks here [mega.nz] - Tracks : 1. Undercover 2. Ronnie's Song 3. You Got Me Rockin' 4. Juiced 5. Low Down 6. Don't Want Somebody Else 7. Saint Of Me"

Not sure where "Heaven III" comes from ?

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gotdablouse
It was 7 tracks as detailed here : [iorr.org]

"March 30th : Another nice surprise in 2021 with IORR member Davie137 sharing 7 new unbooted tracks from 1982, 1993 and 1997 with two songs not previously known of : "Ronnie's Song" and "Don't Want Somebody Else" (not the similarly titled 1985 track). Details and download links here [iorr.org] 2022 Update : original post has been edited out so you can download the tracks here [mega.nz] - Tracks : 1. Undercover 2. Ronnie's Song 3. You Got Me Rockin' 4. Juiced 5. Low Down 6. Don't Want Somebody Else 7. Saint Of Me"

Not sure where "Heaven III" comes from ?

gotdablouse what do you know instead of Hang Fire VII an Wonder (Early take of Worried About you)?

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gotdablouse what do you know instead of Hang Fire VII an Wonder (Early take of Worried About you)?

I'm not gottheblouse but Hang Fire VII is from the Art Collins tape Part 05 'Gary Lyons - No Vocals - Paris Ideas': [we.tl]

Wonder is not circulating and not even known to Nico, otherwise he would not write "maybe" an early take of Worried About you. "Maybe" means he does not know it himself IMO.

Heaven III is also from the Art Collins tape. I believe it's there twice, under Part 20 'RS Paris 1980' and Part 21 'LP Tracks 12-80' each.



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Thanks wiredallnight for Hang Fire VII.

Yes I also think that "maybe" shows that the song should be indicated by nico as "unverified".

Heaven III was already among those tracks in fact. Thanks for all. At this point I'd say we're all set.

Can you tell me which set of "art Collins Tapes" to use among those posted



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hulloder

Can you tell me which set of "art Collins Tapes" to use among those posted

Go for the DAC releases : the AC material is speed-corrected, filed by sessions etc etc.

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hulloder

Can you tell me which set of "art Collins Tapes" to use among those posted

Go for the DAC releases : the AC material is speed-corrected, filed by sessions etc etc.

Yes I agree. They rearranged the tracks a bit but in a useful way, avoiding identical tracks twice. Yes and quality and speed are perfect. It's DAC-200 to 204.

Thanks to all