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coffeepotman
just look on you tube, there are people making their own stereo versions of mono songs. I don't know how they do it but they are out there
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johnnythunders
I bought "Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass)" without noticing it was Mono Reprocessed For Stereo
Took it to a party and I was so embarrassed by how weedy it sounded.
That is when I started collecting Stones original 7" vinyl singles
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andrews27
Oh, I guarantee you - if you've heard Stones vinyl LPs on London/Decca, you've heard fake stereo.
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StonyRoad
My favorites ‘fake stereo’ were the ones "created" by Ruudtes combined with audio or video montages (he made over a hundred). Each time his "videos" were quickly blocked by YouTube…. it seems to have been permanently banned from YouTube and Vimeo since then.
With his consent I used his versions of MSG 69 on FP 041.
Here's an example with the 'You’ve Just Made My Day' snippet.
[we.tl]
The stereo effect is obtained by creating a slight offset (a desynchronization of the 2 channels) Initially there is only one signal it was processed in 2 different ways (probably with filters) then the 2 channels are played with a slight time shift (see below): the 2 channels are now slightly different and slightly offset.
Hope this could have helped
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ironbelly
Fake stereo on Japanese CDs
Big Hits (High Tide & Green Grass), UK version [P33L 25016], [P25L 25039]
01-Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing In The Shadow?
04-The Last Time
06-Not Fade Away
07-Come On
08-(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
09-Get Off Of My Cloud
10-As Tears Go By
11-19th Nervous Breakdown
14-Little Red Rooster
Big Hits Vol.2 Through The Past, Darkly, UK version [P33L 25017], [P25L 25044]
05-You Better Move On
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ironbelly
So called 'old US ABKCO' CDs are full of out-of-phase mono tracks. I do not know if they make it on intent or that was just mastering/manufacturing error. Anyway, for many of those tracks channels do not cancel out if one will make subtraction. There will be a residual signal (in many cases quite big one). Thus, you can call all those tracks either 'poorly balanced mono' or 'out-of-phase mono' or 'fake stereo'.
As an example - Got Live If You Want It! It supposed to be in mono. But this is not 100% pure digital mono (at some places it is clearly electronically reproduced stereo) and the mix does not correspond to the original LP mono mix. To make things more funny, this old ABKCO mix was reproduced almost identically for 2002 remaster.
Electronically Reproduced Stereo on other CDs (these are easily to get) and very obvious
Flowers [ABKCO 75092]
02-Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow?
09-Mother's Little Helper
Through The Past Darkly US version [ABKCO 80032]
05-Mother's Little Helper
10-Have You Seen Your Mother Baby, Standing In The Shadow?
Hot Rocks [ABKCO 66672]
07-Mother's Little Helper
More Hot Rocks [ABKCO 62672]
10-Have You Seen Your Mother Baby, Standing In the Shadow?
Little Red Rooster and Good Times, Bad Times on old ABKCO CDs are as good mono as you can get. The residual signal after channel subtraction is on the level ~ -45dB.
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andrews27
Best effect of the digital age: release of previously unheard material
Worst effect: ahistorical remastering not resembling the original releases
In life there is no happiness, only the spectre of it. -- Vladimir Putin
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exilestones
It would be a cool project for someone to collect all of the fake stereo tracks. It's Stones history!
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BlueTurns2Grey
Here's a small list of some Stones tracks that have been released on Teldec, Decca, London Records or on various italian Labels on LP and with electronicly reprozessed stereo. I know there are lots more:
Around And Around 1971 Stone Age
As Tears Go By 1971 Stone Age
Blue Turns To Grey 1971 Stone Age
Can I Get A Witness 1981 RS Superstar
Confessin' The Blues 1971 Stone Age
Congratulations 1973 No Stone Unturned
I Just Wanna Make Love To You 1972 Rock 'n' Rolling Stones
I'm Moving On 1973 No Stone Unturned
If You Need Me 1971 Stone Age
It's All Over Now 1971 Stone Age
Long Long While 1973 No Stone Unturned
Money 1973 No Stone Unturned
One More Try 1971 Stone Age
Poison Ivy 1973 No Stone Unturned
Route 66 1972 Rock 'n' Rolling Stones
Sad Day 1973 No Stone Unturned
Stoned 1973 No Stone Unturned
Surprise Surprise 1973 No Stone Unturned
Tell Me - long version 1981 RS Superstar
The Last Time 1971 Stone Age
The Singer Not The Song 1973 No Stone Unturned
The Spider And The Fly 1971 Stone Age
Walking The Dog 1981 RS Superstar
Who's Driving Your Plane 1973 No Stone Unturned
You Better Move On 1981 RS Superstar
You Can Make It If You Try 1981 RS Superstar
Stone Age [www.discogs.com]
No Stone Unturned [www.discogs.com]
RS Superstar [www.discogs.com]
Rock 'n' Rolling Stones [www.discogs.com]
A special release from 2021 by TP4, "The Rolling Stones No.2" comes completely with electronicly reprozessed stereo. But there are a view things, that went wrong. ENSTL is the american "Rolling Stones Now" version. TIOMS, PIMH and DHG have dropouts. I can't believe, that this was released without any proof.
Down Home Girl (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster] DROPOUTS
Down The Road Apiece (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love 'TRS Now Version' (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
Grown Up Wrong (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
I Can't Be Satisfied (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
Off The Hook (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
Pain In My Heart (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster] DROPOUTS
Susie Q (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
Time Is On My Side (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster] DROPOUTS
Under The Boardwalk (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
What A Shame (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
You Can't Catch Me (2021 stereo remaster) The Rolling Stones No. 2 [TP4 2021 Remaster]
The Rolling Stones No. 2 (2021 Remaster by TP4) [www.qobuz.com]
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Mack Jigger
For those interested. I've got 19th Nervous Breakdown in fake stereo, recorded at RCA Studio, Los Angeles 1965. Alternate mix.
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exilestones
Thanks, Edwin. I'm not sure if it's fake but I'm glad to get it. Thank you!
I'll give it a listen and see if I can figure out if it's fake. There's people here who would know better than me.
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HenrikBB
There is a lot of stories in the story, - like the problems with the Chess recordings.
Recorded in true Stereo - folded down to Mono - and then produced in ERPS !
- Normally with a very poor result . . .
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HenrikBB
I’ll be back with more . . . .
- and just a clarifying : My ERPS-“project” is entirely based on official releases, - whether it is vinyl or CD !
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BlueTurns2Grey
Here's a small list of some Stones tracks that have been released on Teldec, Decca, London Records or on various italian Labels on LP and with electronically reprocessed stereo. I know there are lots more:
Around And Around 1971 Stone Age
As Tears Go By 1971 Stone Age
Blue Turns To Grey 1971 Stone Age
Can I Get A Witness 1981 RS Superstar
Confessin' The Blues 1971 Stone Age
Congratulations 1973 No Stone Unturned
I Just Wanna Make Love To You 1972 Rock 'n' Rolling Stones
I'm Moving On 1973 No Stone Unturned
If You Need Me 1971 Stone Age
It's All Over Now 1971 Stone Age
Long Long While 1973 No Stone Unturned
Money 1973 No Stone Unturned
One More Try 1971 Stone Age
Poison Ivy 1973 No Stone Unturned
Route 66 1972 Rock 'n' Rolling Stones
Sad Day 1973 No Stone Unturned
Stoned 1973 No Stone Unturned
Surprise Surprise 1973 No Stone Unturned
Tell Me - long version 1981 RS Superstar
The Last Time 1971 Stone Age
The Singer Not The Song 1973 No Stone Unturned
The Spider And The Fly 1971 Stone Age
Walking The Dog 1981 RS Superstar
Who's Driving Your Plane 1973 No Stone Unturned
You Better Move On 1981 RS Superstar
You Can Make It If You Try 1981 RS Superstar
Stone Age [www.discogs.com]
No Stone Unturned [www.discogs.com]
RS Superstar [www.discogs.com]
Rock 'n' Rolling Stones [www.discogs.com]