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Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 19, 2021 23:42

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gotdablouse
Where did you read about Chuck playing the drums on the version with Keith's vocals ?

Nico! Who else? cool smiley

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: alexander paul ()
Date: March 20, 2021 10:01

See Martin Eliott on the new Fully Finished Studio Outtakes:

[twitter.com]

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: StoneZP ()
Date: March 20, 2021 12:38

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alexander paul
See Martin Eliott on the new Fully Finished Studio Outtakes:

[twitter.com]

Thanks

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 20, 2021 13:30

Interesting categories but he's had suggestions on his FB page to move some tracks around ;-)

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: atsu69 ()
Date: March 21, 2021 09:03

Thank you BlueTurns2Grey and everyone for making great list.
It's really helpful.

Let me post my ideas.

17- Part of the Night
Part Of The Night - version II (ver.I is in BIRD'S VAULT 3)

21- Not the Way to Go
Not The Way To Go - version III (diff than II - diff lyric, without guitar solo(@2.43)

25- Keep It Cool
Keep It Cool - version IV (we have another ver.III in Art Collins tapes)

46- Criss Cross
Criss Cross (Save Me) - version II(new?) (almost same as ver.I till the middle, but without sound like bell ring (0.10) and short edited. I think this is not IV)
19721125-1221, Dynamic Sounds Studios, Kingston, Jamaica

47- Strictly Memphis
Strictly Memphis - version IV (without Bobby's"Well Well" before Mick start singing, additional horn)

atsu-y
[wwr6.ucom.ne.jp]



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-21 10:11 by atsu69.

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: BlueTurns2Grey ()
Date: March 21, 2021 10:19

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atsu69
Thank you BlueTurns2Grey and everyone for making great list.
It's really helpful.

Let me post my ideas.

17- Part of the Night
Part Of The Night - version II (ver.I is in BIRD'S VAULT 3)

21- Not the Way to Go
Not The Way To Go - version III (diff than II - diff lyric, without guitar solo(@2.43)

25- Keep It Cool
Keep It Cool - version IV (we have another ver.III in Art Collins tapes)

46- Criss Cross
Criss Cross (Save Me) - version II(new?) (almost same as ver.I till the middle, but without sound like bell ring (0.10) and short edited. I think this is not IV)
19721125-1221, Dynamic Sounds Studios, Kingston, Jamaica

47- Strictly Memphis
Strictly Memphis - version IV (without Bobby's"Well Well" before Mick start singing, additional horn)

Thanks a lot atsu69! I'll try to do corrections asap !



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-21 20:39 by BlueTurns2Grey.

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: March 21, 2021 13:22

@atsu69 - I really enjoyed your detailed write-up here [wwr6.ucom.ne.jp] (translated with Google, pretty well too !). It brings back many memories of my own "history" with the Stones' outtakes ;-)

I see you think that "Don't Lie To Me" was from the TA rehearsals with Jeff Beck, Nico does say it was played there (unverified though), I'll have to give it another listen. Oh and it might be the Google translation but your paragraph says the Stones played it at "Putty Marconi" and not "Pathé Marconi"?

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: March 21, 2021 20:56

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wiredallnight
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dcba
...

Nico gives a 1979 date for "Trouble's a Coming" (and we can forget the former "Break Away" title).
Same for "Dog Shit" from 83 which becomes "Big Truff".

Big Truff? Really? I don't hear that. It's rather "Big Love" or "Luck". Something with "L".

"Bad Luck" anyone? "Bad Luck Hideaway"?

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: StoneZP ()
Date: March 21, 2021 21:34

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retired_dog
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wiredallnight
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dcba
...

Nico gives a 1979 date for "Trouble's a Coming" (and we can forget the former "Break Away" title).
Same for "Dog Shit" from 83 which becomes "Big Truff".

Big Truff? Really? I don't hear that. It's rather "Big Love" or "Luck". Something with "L".

"Bad Luck" anyone? "Bad Luck Hideaway"?


maybe im wrong but at the end i think its not "luck", maybe «loss» or «Mad Love» or «Bedless»???

But as the wiredallnight said, it seems to be something with L

«Some Love» at 3.47

Maybe someone like Todd can isolate the voice and send to us smiling smiley



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-21 22:06 by StoneZP.

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: atsu69 ()
Date: March 22, 2021 14:19

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gotdablouse
@atsu69 - I really enjoyed your detailed write-up here [wwr6.ucom.ne.jp] (translated with Google, pretty well too !). It brings back many memories of my own "history" with the Stones' outtakes ;-)

I see you think that "Don't Lie To Me" was from the TA rehearsals with Jeff Beck, Nico does say it was played there (unverified though), I'll have to give it another listen. Oh and it might be the Google translation but your paragraph says the Stones played it at "Putty Marconi" and not "Pathé Marconi"?

Thank you so much!
Sure, FFSO is so wonderful that it reminds us about our own long "history"!!

Putty Marconi?
Oh! It's mistranslation by Google :-)

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: atsu69 ()
Date: March 22, 2021 14:32

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BlueTurns2Grey

Thanks a lot atsu69! I'll try to do corrections asap !

Thank you for the updates!!

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 22, 2021 17:34

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atsu69

25- Keep It Cool
Keep It Cool - version IV (we have another ver.III in Art Collins tapes)

Imo there are only 3 versions in total : what you refer to as vIII is in fact the coda of vI aka "the long version" of KIC.

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: alexander paul ()
Date: March 30, 2021 09:37

Felix Aeppli now has all the info on the new tracks.

[aeppli.ch]

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: March 30, 2021 11:24

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alexander paul
Felix Aeppli now has all the info on the new tracks.

[aeppli.ch]

Nobody's Perfect : "might be a left-over from Mick Jagger’s SHE’S THE BOSS sessions, 1984".

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: plusplusjames ()
Date: July 5, 2021 02:25

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alexander paul
Felix Aeppli now has all the info on the new tracks.

[aeppli.ch]

Felix of course is THE MAN. He joined me and my 4 year old daughter for a day in NYC back in 1999.

Re: Ideas about the sources of the new outtakes collection
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: July 5, 2021 12:07

No offense or anything personal but his site reads like the year end financial report of a tri-continent conglomerate = I have a headache after 5 minutes of browsing thru it.

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