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Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: coowouters ()
Date: July 23, 2017 22:11

Are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available on a boot or in another way?

Just Before 00:02:48
Dreams 00:05:43
Cried Out 00:04:16
Because 00:06:44
Love is a Test 00:06:03
When I Call Your Name 00:05:01
U Don't Wanna 00:05:03
Don't Stop 00:04:11
Keys to Your Love 00:04:42

Chris from Belgium


Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: July 23, 2017 22:13

Unfortunately not

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: coowouters ()
Date: July 23, 2017 22:31

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Monsoon Ragoon
Unfortunately not

Damned; I thought I read something about those tracks being available on some boot or upload post somewhere here on IORR.
(I wonder where I got the information; track titles and running time, found it in a text file on an old HDD)

Chris from Belgium





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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: July 23, 2017 22:34

No upload as far as I know. No release. N. Zentgraf lists the tracks as "unverified" - he doesn't have the recordings.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: ReelStone ()
Date: July 24, 2017 00:21

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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: July 24, 2017 02:47

These sessions have been mentioned a few times before and even described a few times by the people who've heard them but I'd never seen the running times. Out of curiosity when does that file of yours date back to?

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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: coowouters ()
Date: July 24, 2017 09:31

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gotdablouse
These sessions have been mentioned a few times before and even described a few times by the people who've heard them but I'd never seen the running times. Out of curiosity when does that file of yours date back to?

Info on HDD says "Made 24-7-2011 10:23".
It's a HDD that I took out of a previous PC and hooked up to my current PC.

Chris from Belgium





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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: July 24, 2017 12:03

What are you going to do with the tape?!

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: coowouters ()
Date: July 24, 2017 12:12

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Monsoon Ragoon
What are you going to do with the tape?!

Which tape?

Chris from Belgium





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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: July 24, 2017 12:28

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coowouters
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Monsoon Ragoon
What are you going to do with the tape?!

Which tape?

I thought you own these recordings. If not: where are the running times coming from?

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: henrik87 ()
Date: July 24, 2017 19:28

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Monsoon Ragoon
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coowouters
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Monsoon Ragoon
What are you going to do with the tape?!

Which tape?

I thought you own these recordings. If not: where are the running times coming from?

Those sessions are not circulating on boots or in the net. But as far as I know the track names and running times are correct.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: ouroux58 ()
Date: July 24, 2017 19:32

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henrik87
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Monsoon Ragoon
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coowouters
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Monsoon Ragoon
What are you going to do with the tape?!

Which tape?

I thought you own these recordings. If not: where are the running times coming from?

Those sessions are not circulating on boots or in the net. But as far as I know the track names and running times are correct.

If I understand well, now we know 2 guys owning these recordings.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: July 24, 2017 19:54

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ouroux58
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henrik87
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Monsoon Ragoon
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coowouters
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Monsoon Ragoon
What are you going to do with the tape?!

Which tape?

I thought you own these recordings. If not: where are the running times coming from?

Those sessions are not circulating on boots or in the net. But as far as I know the track names and running times are correct.

If I understand well, now we know 2 guys owning these recordings.

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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: coowouters ()
Date: July 24, 2017 19:55

I contacted someone and these are the correct track titles:

Just Because I 00:02:48
Dreams 00:05:43
Cried Out 00:04:16
Just Because II 00:06:44
Love is a Test 00:06:03
When I Call Your Name 00:05:01
U Don't Wanna 00:05:03
Don't Stop I 00:04:11
Keys to Your Love 00:04:42

Chris from Belgium


Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: July 24, 2017 20:28

WOW, I'm speechless!

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Tonstone ()
Date: July 24, 2017 22:35

Gobsmacked as we say in the UK. As much as I would love to have / hear them I can't beat myself up about not having something I have no control over. What I appreciate and respect is knowing they are real- and exist and someone can confirm their existence. even just by track timings.I can live with that. One day........

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: RipThisBone ()
Date: July 24, 2017 23:11

After someone mentioned that Just Because (from Paris 2002) developed into the track Trouble from Keith's Crosseyed Heart album I started a thread in the Tell Me section of IORR in august 2015 about these sessions/songs titled:

When I Call Your Name - LICKS SESSIONS, Paris 2002.

Hope the link works: [iorr.org].

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These were on the tape my late Manager had from the '02 sessions:

Just Because
Dreams
Cried Out
Because? (a second take of Just Because)
Love is a Test
When I Call Your Name
U Don't Wanna
Don't Stop
Keys to Your Love

These are all MJ lead guide vocals.


These new titles were mentioned for the first time on IORR in august 2015, but WITHOUT THE TRACK TIMINGS. So this is new!

Interesting science developing...HOT STUFF.



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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: July 24, 2017 23:37

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RipThisBone
After someone mentioned that Just Because (from Paris 2002) developed into the track Trouble from Keith's Crosseyed Heart album I started a thread in the Tell Me section of IORR in august 2015 about these sessions/songs titled:

When I Call Your Name - LICKS SESSIONS, Paris 2002.

Hope the link works: [iorr.org].

Quote:
These were on the tape my late Manager had from the '02 sessions:

Just Because
Dreams
Cried Out
Because? (a second take of Just Because)
Love is a Test
When I Call Your Name
U Don't Wanna
Don't Stop
Keys to Your Love

These are all MJ lead guide vocals.


These new titles were mentioned for the first time on IORR in august 2015, but WITHOUT THE TRACK TIMINGS. So this is new!

Interesting science developing...HOT STUFF.

Who's manager is this note referring to?

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: July 27, 2017 03:00

camon friends, put it on .....

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: gomper076 ()
Date: July 29, 2017 22:55

I'm hoping eventually they turn up.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: August 4, 2017 18:12

Not available!

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: August 4, 2017 18:13

A good title for these tracks could be Loose Licks and add the 2002 tracks from 40 Licks if they ever become available.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: August 4, 2017 18:47

This tape and the seven or so official songs would fill one CD.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: marko ()
Date: August 4, 2017 19:41

smileys with beer

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: nick ()
Date: August 4, 2017 19:45

Maybe in the spirit of the "From The Vault" series we now need something similar for studio tracks. Instead of attaching them to deluxe versions just put them as standalone releases. If put out as unreleased tracks, it would restore the "Commercially Viable" value that Mick was said was lost with the major dumping of the Voodoo Lounge sessions. These songs would not necessarily need to be finished and maybe the band may choose to finish one here and there. They could also provide a good way to get out 1 or 2 new tracks they may have recorded without the burden of them feeling like they are doing an album.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: marko ()
Date: August 5, 2017 11:37

They do exist...thats all i can say.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: henrik87 ()
Date: August 5, 2017 22:08

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marko
They do exist...thats all i can say.

Do you also know if the BtB sessions exist? There were rumors that they are circulating.

Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: August 6, 2017 08:46

They started circulating very quickly after the sessions, late summer of 1997...

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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: August 6, 2017 10:14

They don't really circulate, only in the inner circle. That's maybe a few dozens people worldwide. Even many of the well known experts don't have it.



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Re: Question: are these "Recording Sessions 2002 Suresnes, France" available?
Posted by: henrik87 ()
Date: August 6, 2017 10:39

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gotdablouse
They started circulating very quickly after the sessions, late summer of 1997...

Did they really circulate? I remember someone offered them shortly after the release of BtB but it was a hoax like the Phoenix DVD in late 2005.

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