Hi!
While working on "Live'r Than You'll Ever Be Tarantura", I noticed that Prodigal Son (2nd show) was missing.
So I had a look here: Post Label / Publisher "Tarantura" [iorr.org]
and found
TCDRS 01 1969.11.09 1st + 2nd Live'r Than You'll Ever Be, Coliseum Oakland.rar [filefactory.com]
But instead of Tarantura, I got:
1969.11.09 TCDRS- 1 Live'r than you'll ever be Lurch Records
So, I'd like to know if there's any difference between both recordings.
Many thanks for any help!
Hervé

yes, there is

-> live'r than you'll ever be <-

-> 'live'r than you'll ever be', the story <-



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-04-14 14:51 by j.b.goode.

Thanks for your answer, j.b.goode.
Now a new question: what we get in the Stonesvault (see 1st post) should be Tarantura and not Lurch Records?
Cheers
Hervé

yes, it's the


-> live'r than you'll ever be tarantura [tcdrs-1-1,2], 2cd <-

Thanks for your answer, j.b.goode.
Cheers
Hervé

c'est rien, hervé,
bon week-end!

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hj3009
Hi!
While working on "Live'r Than You'll Ever Be Tarantura", I noticed that Prodigal Son (2nd show) was missing.
So I had a look here: Post Label / Publisher "Tarantura" [iorr.org]
and found
TCDRS 01 1969.11.09 1st + 2nd Live'r Than You'll Ever Be, Coliseum Oakland.rar [filefactory.com]
But instead of Tarantura, I got:
1969.11.09 TCDRS- 1 Live'r than you'll ever be Lurch Records
So, I'd like to know if there's any difference between both recordings.
Many thanks for any help!
Hervé

this one is in stonesvault;

The Rolling Stones
Live’R Than You’ll Ever Be [Tarantura]
Venue: Oakland County Coliseum, Oakland, California
Date: November 9, 1969
Lineage: Original Silver CD > Nero > Wav > BonkEnc > Flac
Md5 & ffp added. Artwork is included.

Original comment:

Here it is! Throw away all your other copies of the Live’R Than You’ll Ever Be bootleg because this is the definitive, complete version of these two historic shows. Here you will find both shows recorded that night in their complete form sounding better than anything else out there. Recorded from the original master 5” tape at 32-bit resolution. You will find a complete explanation in the liner notes.

This is a must have bootleg for all Stones collectors and bootleg collectors alike. Enjoy friends, this is one you don’t want to miss out on…


TRACK LISTING:

DISC 1 – EARLY SHOW

01 Band Introduction
02 Jumpin' Jack Flash
03 Prodigal Son
04 You Gotta Move
05 Carol
06 Sympathy For the Devil
07 Stray Cat Blues
08 Love In Vain
09 I'm Free
10 Under My Thumb
11 Midnight Rambler
12 Live With Me
13 Little Queenie
14 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
15 Honky Tonk Women
16 Street Fighting Man

DISC 2 – LATE SHOW

01 Jumpin' Jack Flash
02 Carol
03 Sympathy For the Devil
04 Stray Cat Blues
05 Prodigal Son
06 You Gotta Move
07 Love In Vain
08 I'm Free
09 Under My Thumb
10 Midnight Rambler
11 Live With Me
12 Gimme Shelter
13 Little Queenie
14 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
15 Honky Tonk Women
16 Street Fighting Man

On the cd-scans is written LURCH as well as TCDRS
Also 2 different jeans back pockets in one sheet
Don't know if all belongs to this cd rip.

here is the complete
tarantura [tcdrs 01] (2 cd) live'r than you'll ever be artwork

SAME AS MINE with LURCH RECORDS ON THE DISC LABELS

same artwork in the stonesvault are the cd-labels and the front, but
the back-cover in the stonesvault actually is inside 1,
and missing in the stonesvault artwork are inside 2,3 and 4 and the back.
that's why the [complete] artwork is posted above.

besides that: the download of stonesvault says
1969.11.09 TCDRS- 1 Live'r than you'll ever be Lurch Records

here is the original live'r by lurch

so it's not lurch records rs 510 1 cd, but
1969.11.09 tcdrs 1 Live'r than you'll ever be
without mentioning lurch record.

p.s.
no need to shout.
respect for your work,
just wanna help.

Thanks to everyone for all these answers!
Cheers
Hervé

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j.b.goode

no need to shout.
respect for your work,
just wanna help.

Sorry, I was not shouting;
My capslock was activated, that's all.

i am a bit lost, which one should i now look for to have the best version and where can i find it? tx, Peter

^^^Get the watchit low generation version. It has the missing parts patched in from an alternate source. Don't believe the hype on Tarantura, it isn't that good. The VGP version is better if you can't find the watchit version, but doesn't have the patches.

Watchit info:

This is the very well known audience recording of the Rolling Stones at their second show in Oakland, Nov. 9, 1969. It was recorded by the Trade Mark of Quality (TMOQ) bootleg guys, specifically to make a bootleg LP. For more details on that story, see included text file where Ken Douglas, one of the partners, tells his side of the story. It's pretty funny. He's now an author with his own publishing company. Another side of the story is told by Michael "Dub" Taylor (not Mick Taylor!) in the Clinton Heylin book "Bootleg" aka "The Great White Wonders."

This is an excellent-for-1969 audience recording. Not surprising, considering Dub bought the best equipment available. This particular source is mostly from a very low gen. CDR from 2000, not from any commercial bootleg. No processing, noise reduction, EQ, etc. was necessary.

The problem with this recording has always been that Jumping Jack Flash had several cuts and volume fluctuations, and Under My Thumb had the start missing. Several commercial bootlegs have filled the cuts from other sources, but never from the actual missing portions.

However, in late July 2010, ldb001 seeded at Dime a previously unknown (to me anyway) alternate recording, from the master. It's not quite as good as the TMOQ recording, but very good for 1969. It includes the missing bits of JJF and UMT, and more of the introduction as well. I have spliced those parts in, and attempted to correct the volume fluctuations as well. I boosted the bass on the ldb001 source so it more closely matches the TMOQ recording. I believe this to be the best possible quality and most complete version available for this show.

Presented in FLAC 1.2.1. Includes front cover art made by a friend years ago, using an actual Oakland '69 photo, and cue sheet for burning to CDR. First uploaded to Dime by Watchit, Nov. 2010.

01. intro
02. Jumping Jack Flash
03. Carol
04. Sympathy for the Devil
05. Stray Cat Blues
06. Prodigal Son
07. You Gotta Move
08. Love in Vain
09. I'm Free
10. Under My Thumb
11. Midnight Rambler
12. Live with Me
13. Gimme Shelter
14. Little Queenie
15. Satisfaction
16. Honky Tonk Women
17. Street Fighting Man

Where can i get this one?

The liner notes about how much hard work and effort that went into the 2nd show is laughable because they took it directly from the combined Turd On The Run/Sister Morphine 30 year anniversary release in 98. Remastered and dropouts and/or missing pieces repaired by Cool Hand. I mean, who would fix those in EXACTLY the same way! haha so Tarantula, you are busted for the source.

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j.b.goode

Hello j.b.goode,

The label you show correspond to a COPY of the Lurch record. The matrix numbers of this COPY are S-2110-A // S-2111-B. It was released/pressed in the Texas area in May 1970 or just before.


I bought the following copy to a french guy who bought it in Dallas in 1986 as a second-hand LP.



I bought the following copy to the first owner who confirmed me his hand-written note "may, 1970". He bought the record in Austin at Inner Sanctum Records.




The original LURCH label looks like this :




I have received the book "A Pig's Tale" hard-cover edition earlier in this month. This is the reason why I made a research on IORR and found your message.

This book is just gorgeous.