Need informations of good-eared experts (mines become old!!) about the various studio versions of BS;
I know:

- BS I: Mick starts with 'yoh aarrr'
- BS II: no sax
- BS III: 'Hot Rocks' version
- BS ??: Keith's birthday version

What's about the one with 'castagnettes' at the beginning?

Please,is it possible to list all the vesion with nubers (I-II..)/place of recordings/best CD sources.

Thanks in advance!

What's the use.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-02-26 17:35 by stonesmuziekfan.

I suggest you use Nico Zentgraf's "taxonomy" :

[www.nzentgraf.de]
[www.nzentgraf.de]


It's all there...

I early lead vocals: The Black Box (Yellow Dog), Itchy Fingers (IU)

II different backup vocals, no sax: VGP-12, 57, 112, Beggar's Breakfast (IU), Sotheby's Reel 1969-1970 (IMP-N-13), Time Trip 1966-1974 (DAC-63), Time Trip Vol. 1 (Scorpio)

III different gtrs, vocals: Itchy Fingers (IU), A Shot of Salvation

III Shelley Mix: Hot Rocks (early pressings), The Black Box (Yellow Dog), VGP-307, 243

III (edited, different percussion overdubs): Gimme Shelter (film) (about the first 60 sec spliced with 20 secs of the single version)

IV single version (stereo): Sticky Fingers (several slightly different mixes circulate, see Sotheby's Reel 1969-1970 (IMP-N-13), Time Trip 1966-1974 (DAC-63), etc.)

IV (mono with different ending): 7" US promo, IMP-N-002

V Clapton on slide gtr: Sticky Fingers Deluxe Edition, A Shot of Salvation



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 2017-03-03 15:03 by blakeeik.

RE DAC-063 has anyone checked the 12:58 version that's on disc 1...?

Is it the same version that's being repeated over and over?

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dcba
RE DAC-063 has anyone checked the 12:58 version that's on disc 1...?

Is it the same version that's being repeated over and over?

Pretty much, it's from the "Sotheby's Reel" a lot of which consists of Glyn Johns rewinding the song back and trying out slightly different mixes.


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"

On 1 (ONE!) external HDD, after a quick explorer search, I found the song 855 times.
If I have to listen to all these and compare them, you'll get an answer in a couple of years, LOL!!!!!!!!!

Chris from Belgium

Thx Deltics!
That's the kind of "outtake" I tend to avoid... and leave to Beatles fan!
"hey on the 4th mix John's guitar's slightly higher! What a discovery!"

The "Sotheby's Reel" origin would explain why a few songs (like "Shelter" sung by Keef) are represented two or three times on DAC-063? Different mixes and all that...

Wish somebody would upload the Mayflower Bootleg "Sticky Fingers Sessions",
it is said to have an instrumental version of "Brown Sugar" as a hidden track!
More info here, HotWacks seems to be down??!

[www.iorr.org]

Is the Ginnie Shelter version available in a complete version somewhere?

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Rank Stranger
...said to have an instrumental version of "Brown Sugar"...

Channel isolation. Some channel bleed-through. Nice but nothing new.

Thanks, that's what I thought!

Thanks to all all you for the informations!

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DrPete
Is the Ginnie Shelter version available in a complete version somewhere?

a similar version (same guitar solo/different mix) can be found on "A Shot Of Salvation"

another different mix (same guitar solo) is on the first pressing of "Hot Rocks"

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thkbeercan
a similar version (same guitar solo/different mix) can be found on "A Shot Of Salvation"

Good point - this is the same as the "Itchy Fingers (IU)" mix I had erroneously listed as version II (now fixed). It lacks the heavy percussion overdubs that were added to the Shelley Mix.

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thkbeercan
another different mix (same guitar solo) is on the first pressing of "Hot Rocks"

This is version III known as the "Shelley Mix" because the early Hot Rocks pressings that contained this mix were inscribed with the word "Shelley"



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Is there a link to disk that has all the Brown Sugar alternate version. Or could someone upload one?