Hi gang,

Can anyone tell me if these are the same?

2006 :
- The Chuch Magee 1989 Steel Wheels sessions tapes : first appeared on the Rocks Off Board in August 2006, see [www.rocksoff.org], an awesome memory !
Download : [mega.co.nz] (two CDs) (Mega link is dead)
LIST/POST - Rarest of the Studio Outtakes and History of Leaks
[www.iorr.org]

And


- (1989) Steel Wheels Outtakes (Chuch Magee tapes) : [mega.co.nz], [mega.co.nz] and [mega.co.nz]
POST - Essential Studio Outtakes and Unreleased Tracks CDs
[www.iorr.org]
The first one of the three links in this post is DAC-057) and here's the artwork for the 2 other links/CD's:







Any help will be appreciated!

.

Chris from Belgium





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I've got a couple of the SW tapes/cds (monitor mixes,training wheels..)however I dont think they are Chuch's....awhile back i posted that i was looking for Chuch's tape(never got a response ?/!)...NICE to see that Chris is on this......I think i'll be hearing Chuch's tape shortly....



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Bump....

Chris from Belgium

The original tape was labeled "Steel Wheels Monitor Mixes".
It was shared back in 2006 in its original tracklist order:
[www.iorr.org]

2 years later, the Social Graces label published "Training Wheels", a 2CD boots with earlier versions.
[www.iorr.org]

Those are the 2 releases to get.

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mitch
The original tape was labeled "Steel Wheels Monitor Mixes".
It was shared back in 2006 in its original tracklist order:
[www.iorr.org]

2 years later, the Social Graces label published "Training Wheels", a 2CD boots with earlier versions.
[www.iorr.org]

Those are the 2 releases to get.

Thanks Mitch!

Anyone willing to share? (Torrent, Filefactory, Mega, Wetransfer,.....)

.

Chris from Belgium

1989 [RS 228] Training Wheels, Steel Wheels outtakes-alternates, Studio Sessions early 1989.rar [www.filefactory.com]
1989 Training wheels Social Graces 001-002 + 3 bonus tracks.rar [www.filefactory.com]

Not sure why you didn't ask in the threads you cut/pasted the original info from? Anyway what needed to be fixed has been fixed.

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IORR Links : Essential Studio Outtakes CDs : Audio - History of Rarest Outtakes : Audio

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gotdablouse
Not sure why you didn't ask in the threads you cut/pasted the original info from? Anyway what needed to be fixed has been fixed.

Because someone sent me a private e-mail asking this and I did a search for "Chuch Magee".

In the post by Gaza, August 2006 ( [www.iorr.org] )
The following tracks are mentioned:

Sad, Sad, Sad
Hearts For Sale
Almost Hear You Sigh (keith on vocals)
Call Girl Blues (aka Break the spell)
Continental Drift
cant Be Seen
Fancyman Blues
Blinded By Love
Hold On To Your Hat
Between A Rock (And A Hard Place)
- labeled as 'Steel Wheels'
Mixed Emotions
Slipping Away
Ready Yourself (No L/Voc)
Terrifying
For Your Precious Love

On 1989 [RS 228] Training Wheels, Steel Wheels outtakes-alternates, Studio Sessions early 1989.rar [www.filefactory.com]
there's an extra track titled ""Giving It Up"; where does that one come from?

On 1989 Training wheels Social Graces 001-002 + 3 bonus tracks.rar [www.filefactory.com][/quote]
we again find this "Giving It Up" + 3 bonus tracks; "Mixed Emotions (Bonus)", "Rock And A Hard Place (Bonus)" and "Hellhound On My Trail (Bonus)"


So back to my original question;anyone out there who can tell me if these (the common tracks) are the same and are these from the "Chuch Magee tapes"?

TIA,
.

Chris from Belgium

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coowouters
So back to my original question;anyone out there who can tell me if these (the common tracks) are the same and are these from the "Chuch Magee tapes"?

Those tapes all comes from the Stones roadie.

Chris,

Here is info.txt file as it appeared in the original torrent at rocksoff.
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Rolling Stones
Monitor Mixes - May & June 1989


Sad, Sad, Sad
Hearts For Sale
Almost Hear You Sigh
Call Girl Blues
Continental Drift
Fancyman Blues
Blinded By Love
Hold On To Your Hat
Between A Rock (And A Hard Place)
- labeled as 'Steel Wheels'
Mixed Emotions
Slipping Away
Ready Yourself (No L/Voc)
Terrifying
Precoious Love


Hi All,
A friend gave me several cassettes to transfer to CD. The above tracks were taken from one of the cassettes. I don't know the generation, but it sounds pretty close to soundboard quality to me. The music isn't necessarily unique, but I thought that it might be interesting from a historical perspective.
I do know that the tapes were given to my friend by the widow of a member ot the Stones road crew, so they are authentic.

Hopefully there will be more interesting tapes in he future.


Bob
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Here you have link to wetransfer with the original files as they were downloaded.
[we.tl]

I believe '1989 [RS 228] Training Wheels, Steel Wheels outtakes-alternates' utilizes slightly different tape.
Also, it seems that all the boots start with the same tapes. They are just 'tweaked' it a bit different every time. You know - EQ, peak levels, compression etc.

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mitch

Those are the 2 releases to get.

Me I'd got with the DAC first as VGP/DAC deals with speed issues on the source material. Other labels are not so careful...

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dcba

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mitch

Those are the 2 releases to get.

Me I'd got with the DAC first as VGP/DAC deals with speed issues on the source material. Other labels are not so careful...

True, DAC dis a great job with their old OBR reissue for example, but I use to give my preference to the tape finder labels.

Thanks guys. (also for the link to the original upload!)

I get e-mails all the time from people who think I'm an expert (which I am absolutely not!) asking me questions or asking to post something for them on IORR (probably because they are afraid that people will laugh at their knowledge of Shakespeare's language ot who are just afraid to ask something on the forum).
Here's one I got this morning:

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From: xxxxz@gmail.com
Sent: vrijdag 10 april 2015 9:36
To: christiaan.wouters@telenet.be
Subject: documentaries

Hi Chris.

Do you have any documentaries:

1. "Mick Jagger Biography" from the channel History Channel. Under cover of this release. (http://cloud1.todocoleccion.net/tc/2013/01/03/35010843.jpg)

2. BBC Documentary "The One and Only Rolling Stones"
(http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,626666,page=1)
3. Ronnie Wood The Southbank Show (2004)
(http://www.iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,948536,1352415)


These videos were once on the forum iorr but links are already outdated. You can ask the forum if someone could post a link to this rar?

I'm waiting for a response.
Regards from Poland,

So I try to help them out by posting their questions under my name

.

Chris from Belgium

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coowouters

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coowouters

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gotdablouse
Not sure why you didn't ask in the threads you cut/pasted the original info from? Anyway what needed to be fixed has been fixed.

Because someone sent me a private e-mail asking this and I did a search for "Chuch Magee".

In the post by Gaza, August 2006 ( [www.iorr.org] )
The following tracks are mentioned:

Sad, Sad, Sad
Hearts For Sale
Almost Hear You Sigh (keith on vocals)
Call Girl Blues (aka Break the spell)
Continental Drift
cant Be Seen
Fancyman Blues
Blinded By Love
Hold On To Your Hat
Between A Rock (And A Hard Place)
- labeled as 'Steel Wheels'
Mixed Emotions
Slipping Away
Ready Yourself (No L/Voc)
Terrifying
For Your Precious Love

On 1989 [RS 228] Training Wheels, Steel Wheels outtakes-alternates, Studio Sessions early 1989.rar [www.filefactory.com]
there's an extra track titled ""Giving It Up"; where does that one come from?

On 1989 Training wheels Social Graces 001-002 + 3 bonus tracks.rar [www.filefactory.com]

we again find this "Giving It Up" + 3 bonus tracks; "Mixed Emotions (Bonus)", "Rock And A Hard Place (Bonus)" and "Hellhound On My Trail (Bonus)"


So back to my original question;anyone out there who can tell me if these (the common tracks) are the same and are these from the "Chuch Magee tapes"?

TIA,
.

Thank you very mcuh Chris for Training Wheels, i didn't know that theres a different versions in here plus some bonus tracks! I love Steel Wheels era!


Cheers,


Martín



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Thanks Chris and ironbelly. Much appreciated

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coowouters
So back to my original question;anyone out there who can tell me if these (the common tracks) are the same and are these from the "Chuch Magee tapes"?

My understanding is the "Chuch tapes" were the monitor mixes. They were released by Rattlesnake and DAC.

Training Wheels are from a different source and include Giving it Up.

Those 3 bonus tracks were from a video and included on several boots including OBR.

video: [www.youtube.com]