By Request
Definately Vintage - LA Forum January 18, 1973 (Many thanks to the original poster - not sure when or where!)
A 'Mickboy remaster'

Front cover: [ilovemickjagger.net]
Back Cover: [ilovemickjagger.net]
CD1: [rapidshare.com]
CD2: [rapidshare.com]

Cheers

thank you very much!

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Hi Zagalo,

Thanks so much for the posting.

Is this a Mickboy Remaster or a Rocking rott release?

I always wanted to hear what Mickboy did with this show.

Best,
EG

Thanks

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Yeah, you know and I know - most people know - but that's not what it says on the cover!!

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Hi Zagalo,

Thanks so much for the posting.

Is this a Mickboy Remaster or a Rocking rott release?

I always wanted to hear what Mickboy did with this show.

Best,
EG

Good question - when I downloaded, it was as a "Mickboy" (but there is no way I know for sure) but the only cover I found was this one...
To be honest, either way (to my ears), there is no distinct improvement to 'All Meat Master'...

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-02-03 17:44 by stonesmuziekfan.

Many thanks / Merci

Many thanks for the improved artwork - I can actually read it now!!

Is there orginial Mickboy art for this, like his other projects have?

A bit small, but here you go:

[www10.atwiki.jp]

Thanks Zagalo and everybody else!

Thanks Zagalo!

I'm still not too sure what to think about those Mickboy remasters, but this will give me a chance to listen to it.

I enjoy the studio remasters - some of them are excellent...but I've got a couple of live remasters and don't really see any added benefit...
...mind you, my ears aren't getting any younger!!

A few comments:

On first hearing, it doesn't sound bad, in fact it sounds better than I had expected!
Vinyl & VGP sound more narrow, this sounds wider, much like the "For Fans Only" bootleg MrsHop shared some time ago.
Now: On "Tumbling Dice" there are some bad sounding digital noises the first minute into the song, these are not present on the VGP release, but are also on the "FFO" bootleg! Maybe they based they boot on the Mickboy release!?

And for those of you who are not so familiar with the Mickboy releases, please bear in mind, that all his works are around in lossy format only!
Even though these are Flac files, they must have been sourced from mp3 files!

But of course this is in no way meant to put you down, Zagalo!

As I said, I thank you for giving me the opportunity to listen to this Mickboy version and I curently enjoy giving this show another spin; "Sweet Virginia" is playing while I write this!

And for those of you who are not so familiar with the Mickboy releases, please bear in mind, that all his works are around in lossy format only!
Even though these are Flac files, they must have been sourced from mp3 files!


A great opportunity for Marko to turn them into real Flacs.

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And for those of you who are not so familiar with the Mickboy releases, please bear in mind, that all his works are around in lossy format only!
Even though these are Flac files, they must have been sourced from mp3 files!

I don't necessarily agree. I have his re-works of the official albums, some claimed to be from the super hq vinyl rips, some from his "original" CDRs, and I don't think they came from mp3 sources. I agree that some compression was used in his "remastering" though. Either way, I do like the way they sound for the most part. I have not analyzed his live bootleg remasters.

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A great opportunity for Marko to turn them into real Flacs.

LOL, sorry, no one (not even marko) can replace the information that was once there but removed.

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Rank Stranger
And for those of you who are not so familiar with the Mickboy releases, please bear in mind, that all his works are around in lossy format only!
Even though these are Flac files, they must have been sourced from mp3 files!

I don't necessarily agree. I have his re-works of the official albums, some claimed to be from the super hq vinyl rips, some from his "original" CDRs, and I don't think they came from mp3 sources. I agree that some compression was used in his "remastering" though. Either way, I do like the way they sound for the most part. I have not analyzed his live bootleg remasters.

As far I have read and can remember, the Mickboy are lossy because he used mini disc in the lineage of his remastering work of the recordings.

MD is possible, but I doubt mp3

This is an old debate, and not one I really want to be in, but the term "lossy" can technically apply to any recording that had been changed from it's original form. "Remasters" are "lossy" too because they alter the original signal. MP3s are not desired becuase they indiscriminately cut all the high freqs (that most people cannot hear, and if they can, they don't make a big difference in most cases). But other things also alter the signal such as frequency shifting/compression, EQ, etc. and are done routinely in industry too. Everytime the signal is processed, it "loses" it's original sound.

In the end, there's only one true test - do you like the way it sounds? It's funny to me how a rare SB recording only available in MP3 would get banned because it's "lossy" but a crappy "remastered" poor audience tape would not.

Obviously MP3s have no place in trading. That's how music sounds like crap after multiple generations.

Mickboy sourced it either from the vinyl or from a cassette of the vinyl.

When he did this I don't think the MP3 was even invented.

Now if some clown made MP3s from the CD and that's where this was sourced from there's not much we can do about that careless abuse.

J

There is one person who can let us know if the "original" Mickboy Remasters were lossy.

coowouters where are you?

He could also tell us if this is the original Mickboy release and cover art.

Chris please join in.

Chris, are you Mickboy????

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In the end, there's only one true test - do you like the way it sounds? It's funny to me how a rare SB recording only available in MP3 would get banned because it's "lossy" but a crappy "remastered" poor audience tape would not.

I subscribe to that, you see our views aren't that much apart.

There was a discussion here ~ a year ago about those Mickboy remasters, I think it was from there that I got the information that all Mickboys around are lossy.

This live show is definitely in lossy format, maybe someone along the line processed it, and that's a pity; because perhaps that's where the digital glitches happened? I listened to the complete show in the meantime and I think I heard a few more! (All Down the Line, if I remember correctly)

This site here says, this Mickboy is from 2000

[www.stonesvikingrob.com]

mp3 were on their way since the end of the nineties.

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There is one person who can let us know if the "original" Mickboy Remasters were lossy.

coowouters where are you?

He could also tell us if this is the original Mickboy release and cover art.

Chris please join in.

Chris is not Mickboy.