I just found out that the two recordings I have of Kansas 1981 are the same show from two different sources. I bought one a while back, a silver disc called 'Togethor at last' - Unbelievable music.....which says it's the 15.12.1981.....The other I was sent a couple of months back and was told that it was 'Guitar Onslaught' - the 14th............but...they are the same show..Mick introduces Mick Taylor and also introduces Bill wyman in a French accent..........the question.........which show is this?...the 14th or 15th ?............thanks to anyone who can help, thanks,,,,,,

Damn, I got a same issue. Same show - 14th is soundboard and 15th is audience.

Mick Taylor played only the first night.
I did not get in the first night, but we went the 2nd night/the next day.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2012-05-05 22:52 by Max'sKansasCity.

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Max'sKansasCity
Mick Taylor played only the first night.
I did not get in the first night, but we went the 2nd night/the next day.

Ha ha ...cheers Max ..that means 'Togethor at last' has the wrong date on it......thanks, Eddie....

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Max'sKansasCity
Mick Taylor played only the first night.
I did not get in the first night, but we went the 2nd night/the next day.

Max, so you missed the boat, as we say it here. We're all fishermen here (except the Limburgians who are afraid of water but are phenomenal uphill walkers), wearing wooden shoes, as you know. Of course those wooden shoes are orange coloured. If not, you surely miss the boat.

Btw: I never saw a personal report of the Kansas 81 show with Taylor on this board.

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Max'sKansasCity
Mick Taylor played only the first night.
I did not get in the first night, but we went the 2nd night/the next day.

Max, so you missed the boat, as we say it here. We're all fishermen here (except the Limburgians who are afraid of water but are phenomenal uphill walkers), wearing wooden shoes, as you know. Of course those wooden shoes are orange coloured. If not, you surely miss the boat.

Btw: I never saw a personal report of the Kansas 81 show with Taylor on this board.

Nah, not really.... I may have missed Taylor, but I did not miss the boat.



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Mick Taylor played only the first night.
I did not get in the first night, but we went the 2nd night/the next day.

Ha ha ...cheers Max ..that means 'Togethor at last' has the wrong date on it......thanks, Eddie....

I am happy to help out Eddie, cheers man

Is "Together At Last" the audience recording from the 14th? If so, it would be great if someone could post that here.

@kleermaker: on just this site, there have been two personal reports from the 12/14 show. One fellow says Taylor was there for the entire show.

No, Together at Last has combined the two shows together.
That's not one complete show. The first half is the other concert, then I think from Let it bleed it's the show with Taylor, I'm not sure it's till the end.
I had it for years untill I read about this in the German Stones collector's magazine Basement News.

Later the two concert were released complete from new sources.
The one with Taylor in soundboard, the other one in exellent audience, almost soundboard quality.

Together at last is a copy of an earlier Japanese release and not the best source to get this concert. There is a drop-out (a silence of a couple of seconds) during Black Limousine.

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No, Together at Last has combined the two shows together.
That's not one complete show. The first half is the other concert, then I think from Let it bleed it's the show with Taylor, I'm not sure it's till the end.
I had it for years untill I read about this in the German Stones collector's magazine Basement News.

Later the two concert were released complete from new sources.
The one with Taylor in soundboard, the other one in exellent audience, almost soundboard quality.

Together at last is a copy of an earlier Japanese release and not the best source to get this concert. There is a drop-out (a silence of a couple of seconds) during Black Limousine.

That's interesting info GVJ...I didn't know that about 'Togethor at last' being a combo...........do you know the names/titles of the two you mention that I've highlighted by any chance ?

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Is "Together At Last" the audience recording from the 14th? If so, it would be great if someone could post that here.

@kleermaker: on just this site, there have been two personal reports from the 12/14 show. One fellow says Taylor was there for the entire show.

All being well with the upload and I should be able to post this later in about 10 hours - maybe less...........

I've the two "new" sourches as European digipacks with both as title "Crossfire hurricane", but you can get the Taylor show on a couple of different releases: Guitar on slaught is the DAC version, I believe?!

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GJV
I've the two "new" sourches as European digipacks with both as title "Crossfire hurricane", but you can get the Taylor show on a couple of different releases: Guitar on slaught is the DAC version, I believe?!

OK thanks alot....is there any chance you could upload them ?..........

I've no clue how to do that.

The show with Taylor you have anyway, Guitar on slaught is the same source as the one I have as Crossfire Hurricane with Taylor.

Ask Keesie, he has almost everything!

OK, thanks to all for the info.
It seems the search continues for the audience recording from the 14th.

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smokeydusky
OK, thanks to all for the info.
It seems the search continues for the audience recording from the 14th.

It would be very interesting to hear the audience recording, because in the SBD-version Taylor is not very well audible, while the horns blow your ears out.

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GJV
I've no clue how to do that.

The show with Taylor you have anyway, Guitar on slaught is the same source as the one I have as Crossfire Hurricane with Taylor.

Ask Keesie, he has almost everything!

OK thanks. Me and 'stoneslive' did ask Keessie for something last week but he ignored us.....I don't know why as the times before that he was really helpful...I asked why but he ignored that too.........
If you were interested in learning how to upload something Stonesmuziekfan sent me a link for 'wetransfer' and ran me through how to do it.............it's as easy as can be once you know how to convert your silver disc to audiofiles in a folder on your HD and then turn that into a zipfile.

Once you've made your zipfile on your HD (with your winzip program (or the like - I use Tugzip and 7zip) - the program you use to extract the zipfiles (little brown box) you download) you open up 'wetransfer' and browse your HD for the zipfile you've created - double click it - then you put in the email address of the person you want to send it to and your own email address and then click transfer. They will then recieve a link to D/L your zipfile at their end.
To get a link to post on here you just send the zipfile to yourself...........it can take ages - I'm currently sending 'Togethor at last' to myself to enable me to post the link on here tonight (for smokeydusky).......it takes 6 hours today to transfer 900MB.....but once that's done and I've copied and pasted the link on IORR it'll only take normal time for someone to D/L it........
Anyway as I've written all that I thought I may as well post the 'wetransfer' link for you to check out (if you want of course)......as I say once you you get the hang of it it's so easy...mind you ....Stonesmuziekfan said to himself (about me) "what can go wrong ?"........I'll spell my own name wrong on the email address entry...that's what..........
Anyway here's the link for your perusal...... [www.wetransfer.com]



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I will ask my girlfriend to look into it, 'cause I'm a "computerdummy".
I realy don't understand all you're talking about, but thanks for your time trying to explane.

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GJV
I will ask my girlfriend to look into it, 'cause I'm a "computerdummy".
I realy don't understand all you're talking about, but thanks for your time trying to explane.

OK no problem..........

[www.sendspace.com]

Band Introductions-Little T & AKansas City, MO 121481, wMick Taylor.flac


mix with audience & the soundboard

Thanks, vancouver.
I suspect most of what we hear from Taylor here is feedback.
Does the feedback here come mostly from the audience recording?
Can you post the entire audience recording?
Thanks again!

the feedback from the soundboard

there's a lot of tape droup outs on the audience source on little t & a

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smokeydusky
Thanks, vancouver.
I suspect most of what we hear from Taylor here is feedback.
Does the feedback here come mostly from the audience recording?
Can you post the entire audience recording?
Thanks again!

I would love to hear the whole audience rec. too. Maybe it's better than the SBD.

[www.sendspace.com]

Let Me Go W MT Kansas C,1221481,mix aud&sb.flac

I looked in the attic and found the right Basement News issue.
It's nr 33 from september 2003.

I will type it for all who is interested.

The first release was Kansas City'81 from the Japanese bootleglabel Hot Lips.

The same tracks and sources wer used for:

Did we meet sonmewhere before on VGP
Fife is not enough on Rare life treats LTCD
Together at last on Unbelievable Music
Well... comeback my sweetheart on Shaved disc

Then in 2003 you got the two Crossfire Hurrican releases on a nameless label,
wich -and I quote B.N.- will change all previously work about "Kansas".

Crossfire Hurricane KC1/2
live in Kansas City, Dec 14, 1981 Feat. Mick Taylor as special guest.
Sounboard Recording (mono).
Previously only 6 tracks from this show available.

Crossfire Hurricane KC3/4
Live in Kansas City, dec 15, 1981.
VG-Exc. audience recording, entire concert, incl. the previously missing 6 tracks from the dec. 15 show.

By the way,the front of the digipacks says also "soundboard", it is almost soundboard quality.

So now we know! Greetings, Grard.

Thanks vancouver and Eddy!

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GJV
I looked in the attic and found the right Basement News issue.
It's nr 33 from september 2003.

I will type it for all who is interested.

The first release was Kansas City'81 from the Japanese bootleglabel Hot Lips.

The same tracks and sources wer used for:

Did we meet sonmewhere before on VGP
Fife is not enough on Rare life treats LTCD
Together at last on Unbelievable Music
Well... comeback my sweetheart on Shaved disc

Then in 2003 you got the two Crossfire Hurrican releases on a nameless label,
wich -and I quote B.N.- will change all previously work about "Kansas".

Crossfire Hurricane KC1/2
live in Kansas City, Dec 14, 1981 Feat. Mick Taylor as special guest.
Sounboard Recording (mono).
Previously only 6 tracks from this show available.

Crossfire Hurricane KC3/4
Live in Kansas City, dec 15, 1981.
VG-Exc. audience recording, entire concert, incl. the previously missing 6 tracks from the dec. 15 show.

By the way,the front of the digipacks says also "soundboard", it is almost soundboard quality.

So now we know! Greetings, Grard.

Cheers Grard....good stuff, Eddie..........



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To the exerts here: I have the silver "Well... comeback my sweetheart" (Shaved Disc) I should list this as a compilation from the 14th and 15th Dec 1981?

I forgot to mention which tracks's are from which concert on the first releases (Did we meet somewhere before, Together at last etc..):

The recording is from dec 15 EXEPT:

Let me go
Time is on my side
Beast of Burden
Waiting on a friend
Let it bleed
Little T&A

The strange thing is that You can't always get, which is after Let it bleed and before Little T&A, is from dec 15, but the bandintro is again from dec 14.

Ok, I hope all is clear now!