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BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: exilestones ()
Date: August 31, 2018 13:04

I found this review online. I thought you may find it interesting. I hadn't realized GoldPlate did a Black and Blue collection. I don't have this release.




ROLLING STONES, THE & JEFF BECK – BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS
(4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4









ROLLING STONES, THE & JEFF BECK – BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
This is a Pressing CD

SKU: GW-13313
Categories: Jeff Beck, Rolling Stones
DESCRIPTIONADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Recorded Live From Rolling Stones Mobile Studio Unit At De Doeken,Rotterdam, Netherlands 22nd January,9th February 1975.

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In the mid-seventies The Rolling Stones experienced another transition. The end of the Mick Taylor era is fraught with misunderstandings, accusations and innuendo. Then the band convened in Rotterdam, The Netherlands in January 1975, they had many musical idea but no guitarist to compliment Keith. Potential replacements included Wayne Perkins, Harvey Mandel, Steve Marriott, Peter Frampton and Ronnie Wood (given his close relationship to Keith would be the obvious choice).

The parade of guitarists reached to such an absurd length during the Black And Blue sessions that Richards later commented about the album, “rehearsing guitar players. That’s what that one was about.”

But the most intriguing candidate for the slot was Jeff Beck. Already famous for his work with The Yardbirds and two incarnations of the Jeff Beck Group (with future Stone Ron Wood), Beck himself was in one of his many transition phases at this time. His latest project Beck, Bogert & Appice dissolved in April 1974, and by the end of that year he began writing and recording instrumental tracks AIR studio with Max Middleton, bassist Phil Chen and drummer Richard Bailey with George Martin producing.

The AIR sessions would eventually be released as Blow By Blow, Beck’s seminal jazz-fusion and one of the classics of seventies rock. But he had a short excursion in Rotterdam jamming with the Stones with some though about actually joining the band. Years later he was reflected on the experience, stating that, if he had joined, “I could have been rich, but I could have not be happy.”

In describing the time, he related that “In those times, The Stones had been staying in Rotterdam, Holland, in relations to tax. One day, they called me and told, ‘Would you like to play your guitar on one or more songs?’ So I went there, but none of The Stones were there (laugh). After three days were gone and I was at the bar in the hotel, and I found pianist Ian Stewart. I told him ‘It’s about time I gotta go back to England.’ In the rehearsals room, there were hundreds of guitars with each players’ name on. I had no intention to try the audition. But Ian said to me that they decided me as a new guitarist for The Stones and therefore the auditions were cancelled.

“I had already decided to record Blow By Blow with George Martin then, and already had reserved the studios. To tell the truth, I had thought of joining the stones, but I had not been much fascinated with their music, so I finally declined their offer. I had never met any member of The Stones and left Rotterdam. I told Stu ‘Ronnie Wood might be the right guy’ but I don’t know that’s why Ronnie joined The Stones at last.”

The only real evidence of this collaboration were a few scattered recordings like “Lady (Sexy Nite)” and “Come On Sugar” found on such titles as Jamming With The Rolling Stones (Scarecrow 061), Black & Blue Sessions (Idol Mind Productions IMP-CD 005), Outtakes 1974-75 (Extremely Rare EXR 002) and Place Pigalle (VGP-362).

In February four hours of jamming from the Rotterdam sessions surfaced. The cassettes were remastered and posted online by CaptainAcid on the IORR website under the title Outside Looking In. Goldplate simply pressed Outside Looking In onto silver for those of us who prefer this format.

These tapes were recorded by two guys outside the mobile truck sticking the microphone into the truck’s mailbox. Under these secret and dangerous conditions, they were able to pick up what sound like playbacks from the day’s rehearsals, as well as the occasional passing truck and a short interview with Mick Jagger and Charlie Watts.

Rolling Stones Mobile Studio Unit At De Doeken, Rotterdam, Netherlands – January 22nd to February 9th, 1975

Disc 1 (62:20): Slow Jam (keef riff), Slow Blues, Slow Jam, 12-Bar Blues, Rock Rhythm #1 (with Jeff Beck), Rock Rhythm #2 (with Jeff Beck), English Rose (vocals longer version), Man Eating Woman (vocals), Funky Jam, Slow Blues, Boogie Jam #1, Boogie Jam #2, Boogie Jam #3, Boogie Jam #4, Jamming With Jeff Beck, I Love Ladies (try out), Outside The Studio – Mick and Charlie Interview

The first disc contains many long jams. These sound like the kind of warm-up exercise the Stones routinely employed when beginning sessions by finding a groove and repeating it with minor variations ad infinitum. The beginning slow warm ups go into straight 12 bar blues which in turn segue into a hard rock jam with Jeff Beck jamming along.

There are several songs with vocals, “English Rose” and “Man-Eating Woman,” a song they demoed in Jamaica in 1972.

The rest of the disc has yet more jam sessions. In the “boogie” jams, it sounds like the band are trying to play the old 1963 Martha And The Vandellas hit “(Love Is Like A) Heatwave.” Several more jams with Beck follow including a run through of “I Love Ladies.” The closing interview with Mick and Charlie is very distorted and hard to follow. It sounds like the tapers are following Mick down the street trying to have a conversation but Jagger is trying to escape!

Disc 2 (68:30): Warm Up Jam, Worried About You #1, Worried About You #2 (rock rhythm), Slow Ballad, Funky Stuff #1, Funky Stuff #2, Freeway Jam #1 (with Jeff Beck), Worried About You, Freeway Jam #2 (with Jeff Beck), Freeway Jam #3 (with Jeff Beck), Rock Rhythm, English Rose (vocals), Man Eating Woman (vocals), Funky Jam (vocals), Slow Blues (vocals), Wind Call #1 (playback), Waiting On A Friend (playback), Save Me (playback), Wind Call #2 (playback), Wind Call #3 (playback), Tops (playback)

The second hour of rehearsal tapes begins with more warm up jams. Much of the disc is occupied with rehearsals and play backs of several songs that wouldn’t surfaced unto Tattoo You in 1981. “Worried About You” was written at this time. The first run through sounds much like it would in its finished forum, but the second take is much smoother with a rock rhythm. By the end of the disc they play other Tattoo You tunes like “Waiting On A Friend” and “Tops” along with other rarities like “English Rose,” “Man Eating Woman” and “Save Me.”

But the interesting jams are in the middle. Instead of playing the new Rolling Stones songs, they jam on the new Jeff Beck tune “Freeway Jam.” One of Beck’s most well-known and melodic pieces, it takes on a new life with the Stones. They first play it straight, as it would be recorded for Blow By Blow later in the month. But they transform it into a Rolling Stones tune.

First introduced is a boogie rhythm on the piano, Beck fits the familiar melody into a boogie woogie and, later on, plays it as a twelve bar blues.

Disc 3 (77:35): Crazy Mama (playback), Crazy Mama (playback – instrumental), I Got A Letter (playback – vocal overdub), Cherry Oh Baby (playback – vocal overdub), Act Together (playback), Act Together (playback – guitar overdub), Fool To Cry (playback with vocal), Melody (longer version – demo vocal), Boogie Jam (hardly audible vocal), Vagina (Slave) #1, Slow Riff, Long Jam, Slow Ballad, Jamming With Jeff Beck, Freeway Jam (with Jeff Beck), Shame Shame Shame, Vagina (Slave) #2, Boogie Jam #1, Boogie Jam #2, Boogie Jam #3

The third disc begins with a bit of dialogue. Someone, Jeff Beck perhaps, states he’s been here for two weeks. Following is about a half hour of playbacks in the studio. Audible are runthroughs of “Crazy Mama,” “Cherry Oh Baby” and the unreleased songs “I Got A Letter” and “Act Together” (more polished takes can be found on Place Pigalle).

The recording becomes more interesting by the end when Beck jams more with the band including another stab at “Freeway Jam.” Unfortunately the tapers were distracted by someone and had to turn the recorder off several times. The final tracks include playbacks of “Slave” and the boogie jam found on the first disc.

Disc 4 (78:16): Monkey Man (riff), Vagina (Slave) #1 (guitar only), Vagina (Slave) #2 (run through different beat), Vagina (Slave) #3 (run through different beat), Vagina (Slave) #4 (guitars only), Vagina (Slave) #5 (run through different beat), Vagina (Slave) #6 (run through different beat), Vagina (Slave) #7, Vagina (Slave) #8, Vagina (Slave) #9, Funky Riff #1, Funky Riff #2, Funky Riff #3, Slow Blues #1, Slow Blues #2, Funky Stuff, Vagina (Slave) #10, Boogie Jam, 12-Bar Blues #1, 12-Bar Blues #2, 12-Bar Blues #3, Funky Rhythm, More Funky Rhythm, Blues With Jeff Beck (12-Bar Blues)

Disc four contains more than an hour of rehearsals focusing on “Slave.” Richards starts off with the main riff and gives it a try in many various tempi with Watts on drums. The session continues with standard blues figures which dissolve into funk. The final track on the disc a blues jam with Jeff Beck joining in with the band.

Black And Blue Rehearsals is manufactured by the Goldplate label, a product of the same people who used to make MBE, Exile, and other related labels. This is certainly an interesting release with a fascinating glimpse into an obscure and misunderstood period in the history of The Rolling Stones. However, given the sound quality and repetitiveness of the material it appeals to the hardcore Stones archaeologist.



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Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: August 31, 2018 18:27

Interesting!
Seems like another nice GOLDPLATE release!
Maybe someone here already has it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-09-01 16:05 by Quique-stone.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: Rank Stranger ()
Date: August 31, 2018 18:51

Another review:

[www.hotwacks.com]

Cannot find the original torrent...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-08-31 18:59 by Rank Stranger.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: diverseharmonics ()
Date: September 1, 2018 03:42

unbelievably horrible sound---similar to the 1973 tour rehearsal tapes and Washington DC rehearsal '94......save your $$$ you won't get very far into these....for absolute hardcore compleatists only.. like me..

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: KevinM ()
Date: June 4, 2020 05:02

Can anyone please repost this? Possibly in 2 parts? Thank you kindly, in advance!

I tried 7x to DL this from Mega 1.15GB, but get an: "Out of Memory error..." towards the end. I'm not sure if the error is on my end, but I have 100GB+ free & at least 4GB RAM. ...??


Black And Blue Rehearsals (Goldplate GP-1202 CD1/2/3/4)

[mega.nz]

Black And Blue Sessions (Captain Acid 2015) .zip

EDIT: so the consensus is the poor audio, but not everyone agrees & some have decent/audible version...what is your opinion?Original 2017/18 thread-Black And Blue Rehearsals, Goldplate GP-1202CD1/2/3/4, 4CD



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-06-04 05:21 by KevinM.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: okenny ()
Date: June 4, 2020 05:23

I forgot to have this CD. It may be a long time before I can get into UL. Very comprehensive, most of which was a recording of Rotterdam's recording stolen from the sound leaking from a recording van.
Someone first

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: okenny ()
Date: June 4, 2020 05:39

I started work.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: gastonl74 ()
Date: June 4, 2020 05:54

Captain Acid remastered it a while ago under the title
"APCD 006 Outside Looking In_Rotterdam Rehearsals 75"

iorr

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: KevinM ()
Date: June 4, 2020 07:02

Quote
gastonl74
Captain Acid remastered it a while ago under the title
"APCD 006 Outside Looking In_Rotterdam Rehearsals 75"

iorr

Thanks gastonl74, I DL'd Outside Looking In earlier, but wasn't sure if it had the same content, til I read the original 17/18 thread. I'm new to the FLAC world & IORR, so I've yet to play/extract/hear it.

I'm so grateful to have IORR, Captain Acid & you all! Rock on!

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: June 4, 2020 07:54

Goldplate and Mayflower....that's the 2 most annoying bootleg-labels, as they are always plain copies of torrents. Nothing added, nothing reworked. And them Captain Acid torrents, they even have far better artwork included. Really useless products. "Goldplate" seems to have an obsession with Captain Acid.
And they don't even have a clue about when this or that photo comes from, as one can see in that recent Bern 1973 release by "mayflower" - front-photo comes from 1972, and on the backside there's even 1975 and London 73, nothing from Bern.
Clueless bootlegers.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: June 4, 2020 08:27

It goes to the story that 3-4 years ago I recieved threats per email by "mayflower" for talking about this useless label here. So I have a particular hatred for them morons.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: June 4, 2020 09:16

not that I really mind, but it was so pathetic, them pointing out my exact house, etc, and yes, I wish they'd show up, I'd give them a real nice time.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: okenny ()
Date: June 4, 2020 10:57

Sorry, I'm ready to upload, but I can't build a new topic [Phorum Database Error]. Can you wait a little longer? Or if anyone has a solution for this matter please let me know.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: StoneZP ()
Date: June 4, 2020 23:44

Quote
KevinM
Can anyone please repost this? Possibly in 2 parts? Thank you kindly, in advance!

I tried 7x to DL this from Mega 1.15GB, but get an: "Out of Memory error..." towards the end. I'm not sure if the error is on my end, but I have 100GB+ free & at least 4GB RAM. ...??


Black And Blue Rehearsals (Goldplate GP-1202 CD1/2/3/4)

[mega.nz]

Black And Blue Sessions (Captain Acid 2015) .zip

EDIT: so the consensus is the poor audio, but not everyone agrees & some have decent/audible version...what is your opinion?Original 2017/18 thread-Black And Blue Rehearsals, Goldplate GP-1202CD1/2/3/4, 4CD


From Captain Acid

[wetransfer.com]

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: KevinM ()
Date: June 5, 2020 00:51

Quote
StoneZP
Quote
KevinM
Can anyone please repost this? Possibly in 2 parts? Thank you kindly, in advance!

I tried 7x to DL this from Mega 1.15GB, but get an: "Out of Memory error..." towards the end. I'm not sure if the error is on my end, but I have 100GB+ free & at least 4GB RAM. ...??


Black And Blue Rehearsals (Goldplate GP-1202 CD1/2/3/4)

[mega.nz]

Black And Blue Sessions (Captain Acid 2015) .zip

EDIT: so the consensus is the poor audio, but not everyone agrees & some have decent/audible version...what is your opinion?Original 2017/18 thread-Black And Blue Rehearsals, Goldplate GP-1202CD1/2/3/4, 4CD


From Captain Acid

[wetransfer.com]

Thanks StoneZP...you may have missed my last post saying I did DL the APCD 006 Outside Looking In-Rotterdam Rehearsals '75, which Gastonl74 said was the same thing. I appreciate it all the same. (If it's not identical, please let me know), as I've yet to unpack the Zip/or listen to the FLAC/extract. (Gotta learn how 1st tonight).

EDIT: gonna DL the FLAC too, since the other was ZIP.rar. It'll be a good lesson in comparing sound quality etc.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2020-06-05 00:57 by KevinM.

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: StoneZP ()
Date: June 6, 2020 12:47

Quote
KevinM
Quote
StoneZP
Quote
KevinM
Can anyone please repost this? Possibly in 2 parts? Thank you kindly, in advance!

I tried 7x to DL this from Mega 1.15GB, but get an: "Out of Memory error..." towards the end. I'm not sure if the error is on my end, but I have 100GB+ free & at least 4GB RAM. ...??


Black And Blue Rehearsals (Goldplate GP-1202 CD1/2/3/4)

[mega.nz]

Black And Blue Sessions (Captain Acid 2015) .zip

EDIT: so the consensus is the poor audio, but not everyone agrees & some have decent/audible version...what is your opinion?Original 2017/18 thread-Black And Blue Rehearsals, Goldplate GP-1202CD1/2/3/4, 4CD


From Captain Acid

[wetransfer.com]

Thanks StoneZP...you may have missed my last post saying I did DL the APCD 006 Outside Looking In-Rotterdam Rehearsals '75, which Gastonl74 said was the same thing. I appreciate it all the same. (If it's not identical, please let me know), as I've yet to unpack the Zip/or listen to the FLAC/extract. (Gotta learn how 1st tonight).

EDIT: gonna DL the FLAC too, since the other was ZIP.rar. It'll be a good lesson in comparing sound quality etc.

You`re right, i miss your last post.Sorry.
I sent you was "Smack & Blow".have you managed to see that?

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: KevinM ()
Date: June 6, 2020 19:02

Quote
StoneZP
Quote
KevinM
Quote
StoneZP
Quote
KevinM
Can anyone please repost this? Possibly in 2 parts? Thank you kindly, in advance!

I tried 7x to DL this from Mega 1.15GB, but get an: "Out of Memory error..." towards the end. I'm not sure if the error is on my end, but I have 100GB+ free & at least 4GB RAM. ...??


Black And Blue Rehearsals (Goldplate GP-1202 CD1/2/3/4)

[mega.nz]

Black And Blue Sessions (Captain Acid 2015) .zip

EDIT: so the consensus is the poor audio, but not everyone agrees & some have decent/audible version...what is your opinion?Original 2017/18 thread-Black And Blue Rehearsals, Goldplate GP-1202CD1/2/3/4, 4CD


From Captain Acid

[wetransfer.com]

Thanks StoneZP...you may have missed my last post saying I did DL the APCD 006 Outside Looking In-Rotterdam Rehearsals '75, which Gastonl74 said was the same thing. I appreciate it all the same. (If it's not identical, please let me know), as I've yet to unpack the Zip/or listen to the FLAC/extract. (Gotta learn how 1st tonight).

EDIT: gonna DL the FLAC too, since the other was ZIP.rar. It'll be a good lesson in comparing sound quality etc.

You`re right, i miss your last post.Sorry.
I sent you was "Smack & Blow".have you managed to see that?
Yes, thanks. thumbs up

Re: BLACK AND BLUE REHEARSALS[/b] (4CD) GOLDPLATE. GP-1202CD1/2/3/4
Posted by: gustavobala ()
Date: June 7, 2020 00:17

cool amazing work from captain, thanxs



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