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Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: July 24, 2010 03:33

I wonder if anyone can clarify ? Dede894 posted these shows with artwork by Kream. Dede's lisbon has as the first 5 songs; 1.Start me up; 2.Bitch; 3.Rough Justice; 4.No Expectations; 5.You got me rocking; all the setlist websites I've looked at has this show down as 1. Start me up; 2.You got me rocking; 3.Rough Justice; 4.( She's so cold,(I understand not available on Dede's)) 5.Bitch; and then 6.No expectations. As you can see some differences; Also on Budva Beach Keith's songs I wanna hold you & You got the silver are both in different positions to each other, on Dede's I wanna hold you first then You got the silver but on the setlist websites I've looked at it's the other way round, You got the silver first ? Also on Dede's Honky tonk women is between Miss you and IORR on the small stage whereas on the setlist websites it is placed also on the small stage but as the last song after Satisfaction; Lastly Dede has Brown sugar as the last song and JJ Flash as the encore and as you'll guess the websites have it JJ Flash and then Brown sugar as the encore. I wonder does anyone know the correct setlists for these shows, as I say I understand Dede's recordings are incomplete, I'm just wondering about the positions of the songs that are there on the postings.Hoping someone can clarify, thanks, EddieByword



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-07-24 03:39 by EddieByword.

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: Argentino ()
Date: July 24, 2010 05:01

Hi,

A great site to clarify setlits (if not the best) is Nico Zentgraf's site: [www.nzentgraf.de]

You can find a lot of info and ALL set lists are located on: [www.nzentgraf.de]



070625A 25th June: Lisboa, Portugal, Estadio Jose Alvalade XXI, incl.
(Start Me Up/Bitch/Rough Justice/No Expectations/You Got Me Rocking/Can't You Hear Me Knocking/I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/Wanna Hold You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/Sympathy For the Devil/Paint It Black/Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)
Note: With special guest Ana Moura (voc) on No Expectations.



070709A 9th July: Budva, Montenegro, Plaza Jaz BB, incl.
(Start Me Up/Rough Justice/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/You Can't Always Get What You Want/Midnight Rambler/I'll Go Crazy/Wanna Hold You/You Got The Silver/Miss You/Honky Tonk Women/It's Only Rock 'n Roll/Satisfaction/Sympathy For The Devil/Paint It Black/Brown Sugar/Jumping Jack Flash)



Cheers,


Martín

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: dede_894 ()
Date: July 24, 2010 12:41

Of course, nzengraf is right (thx Argentino). I did not have setlists when i shared these songs. Coming from different sources, i thus numbered them according to the others shows of 2007. I just wanted to make you divide them because these shows are rare and doesn't exist to my knowledge. Sorry for the confusion.

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: July 24, 2010 13:14

Thanks Argentino & Dede_894,not your fault Dede,your (& Kream's) running order is the same as nzengraf's, it's just that the website Setlist.fm gave different running orders for the tracks I mentioned, I guess as nzengraf specializes in Stones stuff that's the one to rely on,thanks again and for the posting Dede, (still hoping that Barcelona - private gig 07 will appear one day, maybe on your next birthday), O.K. cheers, EddieByword



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-07-24 14:11 by EddieByword.

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: August 31, 2010 04:03

This has been a niggle in the back of my mind a while about these shows – why is the setlist different on Nzentgraf to other setlist websites ? Why do the Stones appear (according to Nzentgraf) to do only 16 songs at these two shows (and only 17 at Oslo ) when they do 19 at all other shows (with the exception of the Isle of Wight (only 15 but no disagreement with other websites)) – it didn’t make sense, then I noticed something on the entries on Nzentgraf - only these 3 setlists have the word Incl. before the actual setlist - I would say that the inclusion of this word ‘Incl.’ means that Nzentgraf is tacitly acknowledging that although the songs mentioned were played on these dates there may well have been more.I copied the setlists for anyone to see;

070625A 25th June: Lisboa, Portugal, Estadio Jose Alvalade XXI, incl.
(Start Me Up/Bitch/Rough Justice/No Expectations/You Got Me Rocking/
Can't You Hear Me Knocking/I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/
Wanna Hold You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/
Sympathy For the Devil/Paint It Black/Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)
Note: With special guest Ana Moura (voc) on No Expectations

070709A 9th July: Budva, Montenegro, Plaza Jaz BB, incl.
(Start Me Up/Rough Justice/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/You Can't Always Get What
You Want/Midnight Rambler/I'll Go Crazy/Wanna Hold You/You Got The Silver/
Miss You/Honky Tonk Women/It's Only Rock 'n Roll/Satisfaction/Sympathy For
The Devil/Paint It Black/Brown Sugar/Jumping Jack Flash)

070808A 8th August: Oslo, Norway, Valle Hovin, incl.
(Start Me Up/You Got Me Rocking/Rough Justice/Bitch/Monkey Man/You Can't
Always Get What You Want/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/You Got The
Silver/Wanna Hold You/Miss You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk
Women/Sympathy For The Devil/Paint It Black/Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)
Note: A 1-hour private film of the show is reported to exist.


All the other setlists are like the next ones – ie. No sign of the word Incl.

070630A 30th June: El Ejido, Spain, Estadio de Santo Domingo
(Start Me Up/You Got Me Rocking/Rough Justice/Bitch/Live With Me/Ruby
Tuesday/Midnight Rambler/I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/
You Got The Silver/Wanna Hold You/Miss You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/
Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/Sympathy For The Devil/Paint It Black/
Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)

070823A 23rd August: London, England, The O2 Arena
(Start Me Up/Let's Spend The Night Together/Rough Justice/All Down The Line/
She's So Cold/Shine A Light/Midnight Rambler/I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band
introduction/You Got The Silver/Wanna Hold You/Miss You/It's Only Rock'n
Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/Sympathy For The Devil/Paint It Black/
Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)

070826A 26th August: London, England, The O2 Arena
(Start Me Up/You Got Me Rocking/Rough Justice/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/She
Was Hot/You Can't Always Get What You Want/Can't You Hear Me Knocking/
I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/You Got The Silver/Wanna Hold
You/Miss You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/Sympathy
For The Devil/Paint It Black/Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)
Note: Three different private films of this show are reported to exist. One complete,
two incomplete.

So... for what it’s worth I don’t think Nzentgraf’s entries tell the whole story, I have different setlists for Budva and Lisbon (Budva - 18 songs, Lisbon - 19 songs) and also both Can’t you hear me knocking and I’ll go crazy are missing from Nzentgrafs Oslo 2007, Cheers for now, EddieByword



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010-08-31 13:36 by EddieByword.

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: August 31, 2010 06:59

Lisbon:
[www.iorr.org]

Budva:
[www.iorr.org]

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: August 31, 2010 13:58

Quote
erikjjf
Lisbon:
[www.iorr.org]

Budva:
[www.iorr.org]
Cheers erikjjf - these setlists agree with the ones I have - it looks like my suspicions are confirmed - Nzentgraf's setlists for Lisbon, Budva and Oslo are incomplete and in the case of Lisbon Nzentgraf also has the wrong running order, Cheers again, EddieByword

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: NeddieFlanders ()
Date: August 31, 2010 20:20

The correct running orders for the incomplete recordings of Lisboa and Budva
should look like this. It's has also been corrected on nzentgraf.de now.

070625A 25th June: Lisboa, Portugal, Estadio Jose Alvalade XXI, incl.
(Start Me Up/ You Got Me Rocking/Rough Justice/Bitch/No Expectations/
Can't You Hear Me Knocking/I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/
Wanna Hold You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/
Sympathy For the Devil/Paint It Black/Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)
Note: With special guest Ana Moura (voc) on No Expectations.


070709A 9th July: Budva, Montenegro, Plaza Jaz BB, incl.
(Start Me Up/Rough Justice/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/You Can't Always Get What
You Want/Midnight Rambler/I'll Go Crazy/Wanna Hold You/You Got The Silver/
Miss You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/Sympathy For
The Devil/Paint It Black/Brown Sugar/Jumping Jack Flash)

N

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: September 1, 2010 01:26

Quote
NeddieFlanders
The correct running orders for the incomplete recordings of Lisboa and Budva
should look like this. It's has also been corrected on nzentgraf.de now.

070625A 25th June: Lisboa, Portugal, Estadio Jose Alvalade XXI, incl.
(Start Me Up/ You Got Me Rocking/Rough Justice/Bitch/No Expectations/
Can't You Hear Me Knocking/I'll Go Crazy/Tumbling Dice/Band introduction/
Wanna Hold You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/
Sympathy For the Devil/Paint It Black/Jumping Jack Flash/Brown Sugar)
Note: With special guest Ana Moura (voc) on No Expectations.


070709A 9th July: Budva, Montenegro, Plaza Jaz BB, incl.
(Start Me Up/Rough Justice/Ain't Too Proud To Beg/You Can't Always Get What
You Want/Midnight Rambler/I'll Go Crazy/Wanna Hold You/You Got The Silver/
Miss You/It's Only Rock'n Roll/Satisfaction/Honky Tonk Women/Sympathy For
The Devil/Paint It Black/Brown Sugar/Jumping Jack Flash)

N
Cheers Neddieflanders, thanks for the info, EddieByword

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: January 6, 2021 23:39

bump

Anybody can re-upload the lossless tracks from Budva ?

Re: Confusion about setlists, Lisbon 2007 & Budva Beach 2007
Posted by: eibert ()
Date: January 7, 2021 16:07

e: REQ; concert Budva, july 9th 2007
Posted by: stonesmuziekfan ()
Date: January 6, 2021 23:50

2007.07.09 Budva 2007 Incomplete 320 kbps
[www.filefactory.com]

DVD 2007.07.09 Budva, Jaz Montenegro - incomplete - no art.rar
[www.filefactory.com]



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