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Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: straycat58 ()
Date: February 16, 2009 13:16

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Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: February 16, 2009 13:36

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straycat58
ALTAMONT STEREO VERSION: where can I find it? there's been any u/l here in IORR?

The TAKRL version is supposed to be stereo, but it wasn't obvious to my ears...

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: straycat58 ()
Date: February 16, 2009 14:19

Thanks Mitch,
ok, just found the title: ALTAMONT SPEEDWAY FREE FESTIVAL.
Now I must find the CD.



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Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: Tornandfrayed ()
Date: February 16, 2009 15:08

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straycat58
MSG 28 FIRST:

I'm afraid we're doing some confusion and that we are referring to different audios.
Please forget the GYYYO and just refer to the audience recordings.

I upload for you this Carol version, please listen to it and go at 2,20-2,25 when Mick sings "I've got my eyes on you SUGAR."

thanks straycat for posting the sample. The version of Carol you posted is the exact same as on Ya-Ya´s, just horribly sped up (probably running at least 10% too fast) and processed.

I remember getting this "NYC you talk a lot" disc years ago and I tossed it immediatly thinking "WTF? This is just a foozled version of Ya-Ya´s."

There is no audience recording circulating for the 28/11/69 1st show.

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: February 16, 2009 15:50

"Without better release, I keep my IMP..."
Sure! Just don't stain the cover with some silly act of onanism... winking smiley
Being a boot-zombie who needs every unauthorized CD from Japan as long as it has written "rare-limited" written all over it is fine.
Me I LISTEN to my boots, why don't you? On this IMP you have shows both running at the wrong speed. The MSG I has been released by VGP with lower-gen tapes and is pseed-corrected. The MSG III runs too fast, like a horrible aud parody OF GYYYout.
What do you do with this boot? Look at CW on the cover?



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Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: February 16, 2009 16:06

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dcba
"Without better release, I keep my IMP..."
Sure! Just don't stain the cover with some silly act of onanism... winking smiley
Being a boot-zombie who needs every unauthorized CD from Japan as long as it has written "rare-limited" written all over it is fine.
Me I LISTEN to my boots, why don't you? On this IMP you have shows both running at the wrong speed. The MSG I has been released by VGP with lower-gen tapes and is pseed-corrected. The MSG III runs too fast, like a horrible aud parody OF GYYYout.
What do you do with this boot? Look at CW on the cover?

I am a collectioner, this CD is the only way to get the MSG III, high speed or not.
There is things you don't understand.
No problem for me, it happens.

Btw, I would be very happy to buy you all those horrible IMP you hate that much...
Offers by mp please...

You really seems to have a problem with this label!

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: mitch ()
Date: February 16, 2009 16:42

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straycat58
Thanks Mitch,
ok, just found the title: ALTAMONT SPEEDWAY FREE FESTIVAL.
Now I must find the CD.

Straycat,
I bought it... and sold it, as I found the VGP sounded better.
You should maybe try to get an ear on it before finding it!

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: straycat58 ()
Date: February 16, 2009 18:09

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Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: February 16, 2009 19:16

I just finished the d/l and is The Killer Festival. But it's different from my version: here there's the end of Brown Sugar and the intro of Midnight Rambler.
Hence, this should be a re-edition of The Killer Festival! mmmh... I guess I need some break.


what ? tell me .? diff sourche ? do som merge stereo ??? or what ??????

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: straycat58 ()
Date: February 16, 2009 22:10

It's here:

[www.thetradersden.org]

I think you must register.

Here is the description of the CD:

This torrent contains no officially released material. It's an audience recording of a show which was also professionally recorded and released in the movie "Gimme shelter." This is a more complete version of what I seeded at Dime 2 days ago. If anyone has that material and wants to help seed, please do so.

Lineage: AUD -> ? -> cassette -> PC (Audiophile 2496 sound card) -> slight EQ, editing, and pitch correction (Adobe Audition) -> CD Wave (track splitting, FLAC conversion) -> foobar2000 (tagging) -> you

This is an audience recording of The Rolling Stones' notorious free concert at the Altamont Speedway in Livermore, CA, December 6, 1969. Its source is an XLII-S cassette. This recording has been used on other bootlegs but this version is a little better and more complete. It includes the very end of Brown Sugar and the lengthy introduction to Midnight Rambler missing from most versions. It was apparently recorded by two guys working together. They are visible quite a bit in the "Gimme Shelter" movie; by Under My Thumb the tapers are in the very front. The tape recorder is visible on top of one of the big monitor speakers in several occasions; photos are included.

For those of you unfamiliar with the recording, it's generally pretty good. Drums are mostly inaudible but sometimes they're pretty clear. Everything else is very clear but muffled during the scuffles. Plus more profanity from the tapers and crowd than any other tape I can think of, by far. This is the only known performance of this era of The Sun is Shining by Jimmy Reed, and also the first performance of Brown Sugar, written and recorded just days earlier in Muscle Shoals, AL. After a quick refresher, they nail it.

I've gone through a couple different versions of cassette recordings of this concert. This is the latest and greatest. Unfortunately, all of them are in apparently "electronically reprocessed" stereo, except for the very end of Brown Sugar. I have left the fake stereo as-is. If anyone has a true mono recording I would love to hear it. As with the other cassettes, this one has also been equalized at some point in the copying process. This one sounded different on Side A and Side B, so I have tried to re-EQ Side B to match.

Historical note: As documented by the Maysles brothers in "Gimme Shelter," the concert was hastily and poorly organized. The San Francisco Hell's Angels were much tougher than the English ones previously used for security at Hyde Park five months earlier. The Maysles included some of the worst footage in their film but this recording shows that they changed the order of some events. For example, Meredith Hunter was fatally stabbed between two versions of "Under My Thumb." The film shows him stabbed right after the second version when in fact the Stones immediately launched into the first ever performance of "Brown Sugar."

Presented in FLAC 1.2.1. Includes cue sheets for playing or burning, and VGP art which is usable though off by one track.

01. Jumping Jack Flash
02. Carol
03. Sympathy For The Devil 1
04. Sympathy For The Devil 2
05. The Sun Is Shining
06. Stray Cat Blues
07. Love In Vain
08. Under My Thumb 1
09. Under My Thumb 2
10. Brown Sugar (complete)
11. intro of Midnight Rambler
12. Midnight Rambler
13. Live With Me
14. Gimme Shelter
15. Little Queenie
16. Satisfaction
17. Honky Tonk Women
18. Street Fighting Man

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: February 17, 2009 03:36

this version of Altamont is best by far...

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: September 21, 2010 18:11

with the recent talk about circulating recordings, I thought I'd revive this thread...
Anything else to add?

Re: The great 1969 Tour - clean up your collection
Posted by: dph ()
Date: September 24, 2010 04:31

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Eleanor Rigby
with the recent talk about circulating recordings, I thought I'd revive this thread...
Anything else to add?

How about the previously unknown partial Altamont recording which turned up about a year ago? Here's the info from The Trader's Den:

This is an expanded version of a torrent which I originally seeded at Dimeadozen. Their rules prohibited tracks 5 and 6, which are audience recordings of tracks officially available on the "Gimme Shelter" movie, where they are professionally recorded. All tracks here are from trade CDRs; none are available on bootleg silver CDs. Lineage for tracks 1-6 is audience -> FM broadcast -> ? -> CDR -> EAC -> FLAC -> you. There was a short gap in track 6, which I patched from a low gen tape of the well known audience recording, not from bootleg CD. Lineage for track 7 is TV broadcast -> ? -> CDR -> EAC -> FLAC -> you.

Tracks 1-6 are from a very rare radio broadcast. I have no information other than what I can determine from listening: a local radio station sent a guy to the concert with a hand-held tape recorder. He recorded parts of the concert and then the station broadcast them over the air, shortly afterwards. I assume it was a local station because the taper seems pretty familiar with the Hell's Angels. The tape recorder starts to run low on power during "Sympathy," causing speed fluctuations, and those two versions were the last songs broadcast. My source was a very low generation CDR. I made some improvements using Adobe Audition. Unlike modern radio, which is extremely compressed, this broadcast benefited from compression, as the opening introduction and announcer were too loud compared to the music. I did not use any noise reduction or EQ. I rate the quality of this recording as slightly better than the well known version used on numerous bootleg releases.

Track 7 is the audio from a TV broadcast by KRON San Francisco 12/8/1969, two days after the concert. It tells the story of the events leading up to the concert, what happened there, and the immediate aftermath. It also includes excerpts of parts of the concert from a different audience recording, which is worse than either the one presented above or the well known version used on numerous bootleg releases. Someone previously edited out the commercials, and I edited out excerpts of the official release "Let's Get Together" by Jefferson Airplane, which was played during the broadcast. This track is not the greatest fidelity but it's listenable. Not a big deal since it's mainly talking. If you are familiar with the story of the concert, you may want to skip it. I made some adjustments using Adobe Audition; nothing too extreme.

Presented in FLAC 1.2.1. No artwork, sorry.

Rolling Stones
Altamont Speedway 12/6/1969
Livermore, CA

01. introduction
02. Jumping Jack Flash
03. Carol
04. announcer
05. Sympathy for the Devil 1
06. Sympathy for the Devil 2
07. Altamont news report (KRON 12/8/1969)

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