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Most definetly!
Sony make some really cheap CD/SACD players that sound fantastic.
Go for it!!!
I have Tommy and Dark Side and was wondering what they would sound like on an SACD player. Is the sound and quality breathtaking? I am worried that it will not sound unified but rather like five different tracks coming at you with no beefy middle.
Cmon man. What are u an English teacher ? I just got a bit wordy and wanted to clarify. Seems I over clarified a bit. Hey George Carlin, thought u died. Geez gimme (sic) a break. Didnt know this site was monitored buy the Grammar Gestapo. Oh by the way, Skipstone. I am an English teacher. Didnt think that I would be scrutinized here on IORR. Knowing that now let me correct my "Come on" and my "Didn't". Hey Skip ? Any thoughts on SACD players ? I think that was the topic in the first place.
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OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
out of my head
()
Date: November 9, 2008 22:16
Thinking about purchasing one way after the fact. Been listening to CDs on my computer through my system lately as well as through an old Sony cd player. Needing some input as to whether or not should invest in an SACD player. How do the Stones remasters sound ? Is there a big difference ? And also what does it do for conventional CDs. Is the sound quality noticeable and worth it ?
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 9, 2008 22:40
I was thinking the same thing. Got a few now to make it worthwhile..Stones, Dylan etc How much for a decent one?
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Eirik
()
Date: November 9, 2008 22:44
I'd rather put my money in a proper turntable. If you're looking for sound quality I mean.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
LOGIE
()
Date: November 9, 2008 23:24
The Marantz CD6002, at around £275, is an excellent but reasonably-priced CD player that will handle your SACDs very nicely indeed.
Personally, I am still using the excellent Philips DVDP9000S DVD/SACD/CD player which put me back about £400 about three years' ago.
SACDs provide a wonderful, rich, listening experience; much, much better than anything else out there, especially the multi-channel recordings.
Vinyl is for the Luddites (sorry Eirik!)!
Personally, I am still using the excellent Philips DVDP9000S DVD/SACD/CD player which put me back about £400 about three years' ago.
SACDs provide a wonderful, rich, listening experience; much, much better than anything else out there, especially the multi-channel recordings.
Vinyl is for the Luddites (sorry Eirik!)!
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
out of my head
()
Date: November 10, 2008 00:41
So LOGIE would u say even a low end $ 160.00 Sony SACD would be an improvement over a regular non SACD player. I mean as far as the sound quality overall with conventional CDs ?
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
DGA35
()
Date: November 10, 2008 05:05
I would look for a used Sony if price is an issue. I have a 775 model that is a 5 carousel SACD player. I find that I can tell a bit of difference when I play a regular CD on it, probably because it uses high end Burr Brown DAC's. I also have a Sony regular CD player.
Stones remasters sound good whether it's the SACD layer or regular layer. Where the SACD really shines is when you hear 5.1 SACD's or hybrid SACD's like Dark Side of the Moon.
Stones remasters sound good whether it's the SACD layer or regular layer. Where the SACD really shines is when you hear 5.1 SACD's or hybrid SACD's like Dark Side of the Moon.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
LOGIE
()
Date: November 10, 2008 13:13
Quote
out of my head
So LOGIE would u say even a low end $ 160.00 Sony SACD would be an improvement over a regular non SACD player. I mean as far as the sound quality overall with conventional CDs ?
Most definetly!
Sony make some really cheap CD/SACD players that sound fantastic.
Go for it!!!
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 10, 2008 15:11
Quote
DGA35
I would look for a used Sony if price is an issue. I have a 775 model that is a 5 carousel SACD player. I find that I can tell a bit of difference when I play a regular CD on it, probably because it uses high end Burr Brown DAC's. I also have a Sony regular CD player.
Stones remasters sound good whether it's the SACD layer or regular layer. Where the SACD really shines is when you hear 5.1 SACD's or hybrid SACD's like Dark Side of the Moon.
I have Tommy and Dark Side and was wondering what they would sound like on an SACD player. Is the sound and quality breathtaking? I am worried that it will not sound unified but rather like five different tracks coming at you with no beefy middle.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
sweet neo con
()
Date: November 10, 2008 15:31
I have several 5.1 SACDs (Tommy, Dark Side, Police, Billy Joel, Elton John etc...) and
most of the Stones 2.1 hybrids. I love listening to them. I have a
Sony SACD/DVD player and a very nice surround system.
Silver Dagger had concerns about whether" it will not sound unified
but rather like five different tracks coming at you with no beefy middle."
For the most part they sound excellent..and unified. The Elton 5.1 SACDs
are some of the best in my opinion (Goodbye Yellowbrick Road etc..). Pink
Floyd's DARK SIDE is excellent too.....The Who's Tommy too. The only
ones (that I've heard)that might have a center channel that is too prominent
and lacks a unified sound are Billy Joel's THE STRANGER & 52nd Street.
Heavy on center vocal. It could probably be tweaked but I haven't...because
it might throw of my settings for the other 5.1 SACDs & DVD surround etc...
If you have an extra $350 and already have a surround system....it's a
fun investment.
most of the Stones 2.1 hybrids. I love listening to them. I have a
Sony SACD/DVD player and a very nice surround system.
Silver Dagger had concerns about whether" it will not sound unified
but rather like five different tracks coming at you with no beefy middle."
For the most part they sound excellent..and unified. The Elton 5.1 SACDs
are some of the best in my opinion (Goodbye Yellowbrick Road etc..). Pink
Floyd's DARK SIDE is excellent too.....The Who's Tommy too. The only
ones (that I've heard)that might have a center channel that is too prominent
and lacks a unified sound are Billy Joel's THE STRANGER & 52nd Street.
Heavy on center vocal. It could probably be tweaked but I haven't...because
it might throw of my settings for the other 5.1 SACDs & DVD surround etc...
If you have an extra $350 and already have a surround system....it's a
fun investment.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Lil' Brian
()
Date: November 10, 2008 15:53
I'd also agree. The SACD sound is definitely superior to standard issue discs, especially with tube amps and Klipshorn :-). TSMR is the pick of the lot imo.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
R
()
Date: November 10, 2008 15:59
I have a Marantz 8100A and I love it. Is the sound breathtaking? No, but it IS a marked improvement. Everything is more detailed and separated allowing you to really study the nuances. For the Stones SACDs this is especially true on the early albums.
Unfortunatly SACD hasn't caught on, in the States anyway, so finding titles to enjoy has become a chore. The Dylans are all superb and I'm looking forward to the early Genesis release later this month.
Unfortunatly SACD hasn't caught on, in the States anyway, so finding titles to enjoy has become a chore. The Dylans are all superb and I'm looking forward to the early Genesis release later this month.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Matt
()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:31
Most people say that SACD is dead, as well as DVD-Audio, but I'm planning to buy such a player anyway since they are not so expensive nowadays and since Sony, just recently, released a new CD-player with SACD. I think that they by that proved there must be life in the system, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered. The Cambridge players DVD89 and DVD99 have both got good reviews and they are not expensive either.
Mats
Mats
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
gwen
()
Date: November 10, 2008 16:54
Matt,
I own a DVD89 and I don't know if there have been firmware updates but mine tends to swallow the first second of the first track on the CD layer (and also SACD layer if I remember correctly).
That is if you use the internal converter, can't remember if this also happens when using the digital outputs. But this is rather annoying on studio recordings. The sound quality is very good though.
I own a DVD89 and I don't know if there have been firmware updates but mine tends to swallow the first second of the first track on the CD layer (and also SACD layer if I remember correctly).
That is if you use the internal converter, can't remember if this also happens when using the digital outputs. But this is rather annoying on studio recordings. The sound quality is very good though.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Busch1
()
Date: November 11, 2008 03:09
Both SACD and DVD-Audio are outstanding formats, and you can get a good player for a very reasonable price now. I notice a clear difference even playing SACDs through two channels,and in a surround mode, it's truly outstanding. DVD-Audio is great as well, and I think a lot of players you get now that have one have both.
Unfortunately, as stated above, it seems like these formats have largely been abandoned. I read an article recently blaming it on the proliferation of MP3s, but CDs are still sold in massive quanties, so I'm not sure why SACD was dropped by the record companies. I don't think it's a cost issue. The Stones ABDKO SACDs were priced the same as regular CDs when they came out, and it seemed the general school of thought was new releases, and particularly reissues/remasters, would be in SACD -- it would just be a matter of whether the listener wanted to bother with the player/system. If not, just use the regular two channels. I don't know of any compatability issues -- ie, SACDs not playing in standard CD players -- so as long as people are still going to buy CDs, why not just make all new releases and reissues SACD? Might get a bump from those of us craving this type of listening experience, and regular CD buyers would even be getting a superior product.
And while I'm sure there could be a lively debate about SACD/DVD-Audio vs. Orignal Vinyl, MP3s and their compressed sound aren't even in the same universe as SACD or DVD-Audio. MP3s are fine for what they are, but they just don't cut it for most music lovers who still like to listen to music on a nice stereo system (even though many of us also have an iPod for the car, train, walking the dog, etc.).
I hoped we'd eventually get the entire Stones back catalog in SACD, but I'm guessing that's a long-shot at best now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-11 03:10 by Busch1.
Unfortunately, as stated above, it seems like these formats have largely been abandoned. I read an article recently blaming it on the proliferation of MP3s, but CDs are still sold in massive quanties, so I'm not sure why SACD was dropped by the record companies. I don't think it's a cost issue. The Stones ABDKO SACDs were priced the same as regular CDs when they came out, and it seemed the general school of thought was new releases, and particularly reissues/remasters, would be in SACD -- it would just be a matter of whether the listener wanted to bother with the player/system. If not, just use the regular two channels. I don't know of any compatability issues -- ie, SACDs not playing in standard CD players -- so as long as people are still going to buy CDs, why not just make all new releases and reissues SACD? Might get a bump from those of us craving this type of listening experience, and regular CD buyers would even be getting a superior product.
And while I'm sure there could be a lively debate about SACD/DVD-Audio vs. Orignal Vinyl, MP3s and their compressed sound aren't even in the same universe as SACD or DVD-Audio. MP3s are fine for what they are, but they just don't cut it for most music lovers who still like to listen to music on a nice stereo system (even though many of us also have an iPod for the car, train, walking the dog, etc.).
I hoped we'd eventually get the entire Stones back catalog in SACD, but I'm guessing that's a long-shot at best now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-11-11 03:10 by Busch1.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: November 11, 2008 03:15
What is "a regular non SACD player"? Would that be a...CD player? That's like saying Regular non-leaded. Lead was added to gasoline so saying regular non-leaded is redundant. It's just regular gasoline, or good ol' 87 octane.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
out of my head
()
Date: November 11, 2008 04:38
Quote
skipstone
What is "a regular non SACD player"? Would that be a...CD player? That's like saying Regular non-leaded. Lead was added to gasoline so saying regular non-leaded is redundant. It's just regular gasoline, or good ol' 87 octane.
Cmon man. What are u an English teacher ? I just got a bit wordy and wanted to clarify. Seems I over clarified a bit. Hey George Carlin, thought u died. Geez gimme (sic) a break. Didnt know this site was monitored buy the Grammar Gestapo. Oh by the way, Skipstone. I am an English teacher. Didnt think that I would be scrutinized here on IORR. Knowing that now let me correct my "Come on" and my "Didn't". Hey Skip ? Any thoughts on SACD players ? I think that was the topic in the first place.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Toru A
()
Date: November 11, 2008 05:15
Sony is back with a new format by the name Blu-spec CD.
It takes advantage of Sony's Blu-ray Disc technology to press new high-quality discs while somehow maintaining compatibility with regular old red-laser CD players.
What?
Theres no place for SACD?
[www.blu-speccd.jp]
It takes advantage of Sony's Blu-ray Disc technology to press new high-quality discs while somehow maintaining compatibility with regular old red-laser CD players.
What?
Theres no place for SACD?
[www.blu-speccd.jp]
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Silver Dagger
()
Date: November 11, 2008 12:57
Quote
Busch1
..so as long as people are still going to buy CDs, why not just make all new releases and reissues SACD? Might get a bump from those of us craving this type of listening experience, and regular CD buyers would even be getting a superior product.
You should market that idea. I don't think you can copy the SACD layer when burning so that would make people buy more CDs if they wanted the true dynamic sound.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: November 11, 2008 16:46
C'mon - take a joke! Don't you see the humour in that?
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
skipstone
()
Date: November 11, 2008 16:49
I know nothing about SACD players. I'm waiting for - I don't even have an iPod or anything of that nature. Everything changes so fast, why bother. I have a laptop that works. My CD player in my truck and in the kitchen works. I have no need for excellent sound because I don't have a sound room or anything of that nature. No widescreen HDTV, no Blu-ray - just the normal crap.
Someday I will but not now.
Someday I will but not now.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
toomuchforme
()
Date: November 11, 2008 17:49
Obviously better than a regular cd player if the SACD is properly mastered.
I have the Marantz SA 15-1.
The sound is smooth and ventilated.
I have the Marantz SA 15-1.
The sound is smooth and ventilated.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
Busch1
()
Date: November 11, 2008 18:17
Quote
Silver DaggerQuote
Busch1
..so as long as people are still going to buy CDs, why not just make all new releases and reissues SACD? Might get a bump from those of us craving this type of listening experience, and regular CD buyers would even be getting a superior product.
You should market that idea. I don't think you can copy the SACD layer when burning so that would make people buy more CDs if they wanted the true dynamic sound.
Not a bad idea! And I didn't even think about the non-copying aspect of it, but one would think the record companies (or whatever they are these days) would JUMP on something from which you couldn't burn a copy -- and would actually give them a different type of product to market. Maybe a "friendly" bank here in the US will throw some money at this project. lol.
Re: OT : SACD Players
Posted by:
out of my head
()
Date: November 12, 2008 04:02
Yes I do, Skipstone. It was funny
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