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Like others, I had such a different picture of Spanish Tony in my head. He was a bit "shifty" here, but I agree with Bliss it's tough to say what the cause of that might be; afterall, he was sort of telling tales out of school in this interview. And doing that about the Rolling Stones takes some cajones and would be fairly thankless--particularly relatively soon after these things happened (Brian's death, Altamont, drug ab/use, Jamaica incident, etc).

I guess I'd imagined--as someone else remarked--Tony Sanchez would seem so much more sleazy and inarticulate than he actually does here. I imagined his vibe would be that of human rat. Someone who, even seeing, makes your skin crawl. I concur with whomever cited Marianne as having painted a particularly vivid image of Tony's ability to make your skin crawl. And he doesn't really have that impact.

I too was wondering who paid for his rehab. Maybe the Stones organization, ultimately, tho certainly not if it were up to Keith from the sounds of it--as well as knowing Keith's lack of compassion for people who fall below a certain level of functionality. He wants them away---out of his sight. If that means forever, so be it....truly, to Keith, yesterday don't matter if it's gone.

Last thing, I appreciate his being honest about being a hanger-on and wanna-be, and how he deluded himself into thinking he might be another Rolling Stone. He certainly is not very defensive in this interview, and doesn't try to make himself look better. It would be interesting to play this clip for Keith (and also Mick), and see what their reactions would be to seeing him again.

- swiss

Hey Swiss - While I totally agree that TS didn't come across as the human-scumbag I imagined he was - don't forget the guy had to have some modicum of charm to have made it into the "circle." I do wonder about your comment that KR dismisses people when they fall below a certain level of functionality. Is this true? I haven't seen evidence of this yet in my readings but I still have a few books to go. What about Freddie Sessler? KR seemed incredibly loyal to him - and yes I realize he did turn up with good coke - but often times he was just hanging around...

hi memphiscats - we don't know each other yet, so I don't know your point of reference - so I don't want to patronize you, but also don't have a lot of time right now. What I mean is when people get too drug-addled and dysfunctional, Keith has been known to jettison them and move on--Brian, Gram, Spanish Tony spring immediately to mind--others can add to the list, no doubt, and probably as soon as I hit POST I will think of a couple more. Granted, Spanish Tony was always an employee, and the others weren't. But if you've read LIFE, you see Keith has tolerance for weakness and neediness only up to a point---then they're out of here, and mostly forgotten. Of course Keith did have love for Gram ad speaks fondly of him, and has a warm relationship with Gram's daughter, Polly; but at the time, Gram got to be too much of a mess to spend much time on and he was sent packing and then ignored. Keith and the rest of the Stones have a history of using people up and moving on. Almost anyone who has worked/played with them will tell you as much. I don't even see that as a negative criticism the way some knowledgeable Stones' fans/historians do---the usual rules of the road don't apply here, and if one stepped into their lair it was not going to be a gentle ride, and one wouldn't have stepped into it because he wanted a gentle ride. Oh, and Freddie didn't get to the point of being a drag for Keith. Just a few quick thoughts on your post

- swiss

Hey Swiss - I appreciate the reply & the candid info about Keith. I've read Life, STP, Chris O'Dell's, Marianne F., Bill German, and I'm just finishing Stanley Booth's True Adventures...I guess I need to take off my rose colored glasses when it comes to KR. I didn't pick up that he was down on Gram. The whole relationship with Brian is complicated and I'm still not clear on who did what to whom...(and I agree with your post on another thread - Brian was a sweet gifted soul - but who also had a dark side. Funny, I've always dismissed the whole theory about the "dark side" of the Stones but maybe it was naive to do so. I will investigate further!! Thanks again for the info. I'm fascinated with the Stones and I'm always happy to hear about any books you might recommend to further my education!
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memphiscats - I don't recall using the phrase myself "dark side," but ok - the Stones have a dark side as everything and everyone has a dark side, no?

Who could possibly be in the entertainment business and not have coping mechanisms that are not particularly pretty in the light of day? they don't called the industry cut throat for nothing. I don't know how long you've been around the Stones or their music, or how old you are, but it would be surprising that it wasn't evident after your reading the above that these guys aren't the Partridge Family

Isn't that part of the reason all of us like them? Perhaps not, if you're younger or know them primarily from huge stadium shows recycling material written 45 years ago.

As to Gram, things aren't black and white in anything. Of course, as I said, Keith had love for Gram - they had many good times together for a couple/few years, and he was also a focking mess, and not someone who was perceived to be adding value, to use a contemporary term. There are some threads on iorr about favorite stones' books. You can search for those threads and it may prove useful to you. Also, good old Mrs. Google, old articles, whatever.

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He did have great hair. I know this is weird but there's something about his looks that remind me of Roger Federer (tennis player). Anyone else see a similarity?

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He did have great hair. I know this is weird but there's something about his looks that remind me of Roger Federer (tennis player). Anyone else see a similarity?

Sure.

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>> Who is JC? <<

he was the head security guy for many years
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i would love to hear some Spanish Tony stories from Keith. Not too much in Life

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who is "anonymous user"?

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Spanish Tony is alive & well, working in a record shop in the Village. He stands by his book.

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who is "anonymous user"?

One of the Legion Of The Banned aka The Walking Dead.

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What ?! Can't search the thread now but didn't his son/nephew post here saying he had indeed passed on ?

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People lie on this board all the time. One guy says he Chuck Berry's son, another says he was the Stones 1969 tour manager, etc. Hell, we have a poster here named Edith who isn't even a woman!

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Milkyway, can you please back up your claims ST is alive

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Milkyway, can you please back up your claims ST is alive

I guess the answer is no

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What proof did you get that he was dead?

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What proof did you get that he was dead?

Did I claim he was dead ?

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Didn't Marianne say in her autobiography about Spanish Tony that he might have been a good human being "had he lived"?