I'm not sure there really is one, but here is my take:

Excluding family members and travelling musicians.
PROMOTER: Michael Cohl
TOURING: Alan Dunn;Arnold Dunn
PERSONAL MGRS: Lisa Portman; Jane Rose
LONDON OFFICE: Sherry Daly
NETHERLANDS: Arend Jan der Marvel; Jan Favie; Joyce Smith
PR/MEDIA: Tony King; Bernard Doherty; Fran Curtis

I haven't listed anyone on the recording side - not even Don Was.Clearly, the location of the recording influences who they use; likewise touring (with personnel running to the hundreds is pretty much like a corporate affair).Inevitably there is a fair turnover in the list of "employees".

The Stones haven't a Neil Aspinall/Beatles equivalent. Neil was their archivist to some degree - presumably the Stones see that as a requirement for former bands and not current ones....
Neil also energetically protected the Beatles "name/likeness" etc in numerous battles over ownership and copyrights...presumably the Stones leave this in the hands of unamed lawyers.

By my calculations, Alan Dunn leads the field in seniority of service= 41 years.

BILL WYMAN took care of pictures, saving stones history, etc. back in the good olde days..

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BILL WYMAN took care of pictures, saving stones history, etc. back in the good olde days..

Yes, Bill was in charge of taking care of all tapes older than 10 years and all female fans older than 12 years.

ha-----better than younger than 12....

PIERRE BEAUONOPORT???? Spelled it wrong...I know...but the guitar technician...studio support...Inner Circle guy?

PECMAN

Pierre de Beauport (who got a songwriting credit for TITN)

TITN ?...drawing a blank trying to figure out what song that is?

PECMAN

Thief in the Night

I hadn't realised there were two Dunns: are they brothers?

>> are they brothers? <<

yep

you forgot tony russell, keith's other personal mgr.

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you forgot tony russell, keith's other personal mgr.

YES- an oversight.
I wasn't sure wether to include them but Jane Rose in particular goes back a long way and clearly has put a lot of time into the group, as distinct say from Mick's colleagues at Jagger films, which appears to be quite seperate.
Any info on Mr Russell? Age? Location? Skills?!

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Skills?!

do any of these people have "skills"? I think they all fall into the "right place, right time" category. Except Cohl perhaps, who's probably read one of Donald Trump's autobiographies.

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jlowe
Skills?!

do any of these people have "skills"? I think they all fall into the "right place, right time" category. Except Cohl perhaps, who's probably read one of Donald Trump's autobiographies.

Yeah, advanced degrees in Sycophancy! ><

"The wonder of Jimi Hendrix was that he could stand up at all he was so pumped full of drugs." Patsy, Patsy Stone

Freddie Sessler

JC

Jane Rose was a former secretary of the Rolling Stones office/Records in New York...

Mick fired her...Keith felt bad and hired her as his personal manager...so the story goes...all experts...feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

PECAMN

cc, do you have any reason to doubt these people's abilities, loyalty etc? do you actually know any of them?

Tony Russell is Keith's assistant, not his manager

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Skills?!

do any of these people have "skills"? I think they all fall into the "right place, right time" category. Except Cohl perhaps, who's probably read one of Donald Trump's autobiographies.

Skills? These are all excellent people who are good at what they do, and also they have a great relation with the people they work with. If something or somebody doesn't work then they would not be there.

Bjornulf

I agree with BV.
I can't imagine Mick, in particular putting up with an "employee" who wasn't pulling their weight or didn't have some very special qualities.
And by qualities I don't mean just personal characteristics,I mean Alan Dunn can hardly be your average "roadie" for goodness sake.He might have started off being Mick's driver, but he has clearly developed his talents over the years.
Good luck to them, I say.
I'm sure there would be plenty of applicants to any "vacancies", as and when they occur.

my point was not about the individuals, but about the occupations--and therefore I suppose by implication such individuals who would take up such occupations. I personally don't think "skills" are required to do PR, security, and personal management, just perhaps a Mafia-like attitude, or stonesrule's "loyalty."

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I mean Alan Dunn can hardly be your average "roadie" for goodness sake.He might have started off being Mick's driver, but he has clearly developed his talents over the years.

see, this statement is so vague, it's meaningless to me. What "talents"?

I'm aware that the Stones try to keep basically the same people working for them, and they probably develop mutual loyalty once they've been around a while--they seemed genuinely moved when Chuch Magee passed away, as best as I could tell, which was not too well--but again I think what's required is being in the right place at the right time and not doing anything stupid, like inviting 20 friends backstage or offering to run and get keith some smack! Now, if you guys know these people personally, you might feel differently, but then you must be near the "inner circle" too. I'm just a fan and a listener.

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Freddie Sessler

JC

Um, yes, well until he passed away, that is.

Freddie sessler's sons are still around.



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cc, there was a time when "loyalty" was a virtue. Now it appears only to be a rare quality.

I am not part of the Stones Inner Circle but I can think of several people listed in this thread whom I am acquainted with who are intelligent, responsible, decent, caring, yep loyal, adn who have gone out of their way for the band, its fans and many others. They like and know music and they like and know the band, crew, backing musicians etc.

Didn't realize anyone in this forum of many intelligent people would be so quick to criticize. The Stones staff work hard. Or, as BV pointed out, they wouldn't be there.

Stones "Inner Circle"= Mick and Keith !!

Entourage:

Michael Cohl -- Tour Director

Alan Dunn -- Logistics Director

Arnold Dunn -- Band Road Manager

Tresdon Thomas -- TNA Tour Manager

Tim McWilliams -- TNA Production Coordinator

Mike Sexton -- Entourage Accountant

Lourdes Gonzalez -- Entourage Coordinator

Shelley Lazar -- VIP Ticket Director

Elizabeth Curto -- VIP Ticket Coordinator

Caroline Clements -- Make Up/Hair

Isobel Work -- Wardrobe

Erik Hausch -- Security Director

Preston Synder -- Advance Security

Clive Haynes, Adrian Gard, Bill Bolton -- Security (I think the last may be Keith's)

Tony Russell -- Keith's Assistant

Jo Wood -- Ronnie's Assistant (???)

Valarie Adamson -- Cohl's Assistant

Lisa Portman -- Mick's Assistant

Sage Scully -- Ms Portman's Assistant

Tony King -- Media Coordinator

Cheryl Ceretti -- Marketing Representative

Helen Knox -- Record Company Liasion

Barry "Spin" Mindel -- Luggage/Tour Office Assistant

Dennis Griffin -- The Griff

Torje Eike -- Physiotherapist

Courtney Rousso -- Travel Advance

Stephen Galloway -- Choreographer

William Gilchrist -- Stylist

Don Lawrence -- Vocal Coach

Jake Cohl -- Ultrastar Videographer



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Freddie Sessler

JC

Um, yes, well until he passed away, that is.
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You trying to be funny with that comment?

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cc, there was a time when "loyalty" was a virtue. Now it appears only to be a rare quality.

oh, when was that time? The prehistoric era until the '81 tour? And now it's gone? Come on, don't be silly.

for the rest, I think you're just a different kind of fan from me. I couldn't give a toss about the band's corporate organization. If they're mainly good folks, that's great.

What is TNA?

cc, how about this? It's probably a pretty good group of its kind, working for the best. There might be some great people in there and one or two not so great. Does that work for ya? :-) (I'm just guessing here.)

What is TNA?

You know angee ... that Keith song on Tattoo You ... Tits-n-Arse



ROCKMAN