Whatever happened with that story someone posted here about seeing Mick & Keith getting out of a limo in front of a London recording studio?

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Gazza
The Faces havent toured since 1975 or even recorded together. Its safe to say theyd be even more rusty. And Roderick would be too professional and concerned about his reputation to front a band who are going to be a drunken shambles.

I saw them in 75, and they were a drunken shambles, and it was absolutely great.

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stoned in washington dc
i bet they tour without a new album... they know no one cares about the new album or songs anyways... this will free them up to play a few old gems they don't normally play AND play the warhorses..

Licks Part III, then?

call it what you will but there is no way there will be a new album this soon.. new album in 2009?? i dont' see it...

Sounds like this makes sense to me

I think Gazza's right about the Universal deal. I think they're going to get something out relatively soon. Would they have gone into a new deal without something cooking? So, I guess I'd view that as a very positive indicator.

"They have a new recording contract, which is the main issue. Universal would have laughed them out of the office if they had been looking for a record deal and then suggested touring without having a new album ready when they do. Its not like Universal are going to get many other opportunities to recoup their multi million dollar advance on the back of the sales figures that a tour generates."

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gazza

the main good sign for a new album in a relatively near future imo is the new deal with universal.

we know ronnie is well not so reliable source. Still, if they work the same way they did for ABB I cant see no big deal in sending Ronnie tapes while he's reherasing or on tour with the Faces and have him lay down his parts in fact I dont think that a Faces reunion tour will either last much long and touch many countries. And sure they can tour without new material.

Mick is certainly cooking something, that is another safe argument.

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Gazza

Interesting, and great news if thats the case.

However, we're supposed to believe from Ronnie that in the next 8 months :

1) Ronnie's going to finish his rehab(he still has another month to go)
then
2) rehearse and then tour with The Faces
then
3) record a new Stones record (presumably they'll do one before going on the road)
and then
4) prepare for a new Stones tour.

Quite a busy schedule by anyone's standards. Wise money would suggest at least two of those four are unlikely to happen by next April.

And no 2-4 are depending on no 1. No 2-4 will not work without no 1.

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Gazza
The Faces havent toured since 1975 or even recorded together. Its safe to say theyd be even more rusty. And Roderick would be too professional and concerned about his reputation to front a band who are going to be a drunken shambles.

I saw them in 75, and they were a drunken shambles, and it was absolutely great.

Dont doubt that for a minute, but Rod has changed since then, and audiences - especially those paying a lot of money for tickets - are older and a bit more discerning when it comes to expecting a degree of professionalism.

What was tolerable in 1975 may not be the case in 2009 for several reasons.

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Gazza

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Gazza
The Faces havent toured since 1975 or even recorded together. Its safe to say theyd be even more rusty. And Roderick would be too professional and concerned about his reputation to front a band who are going to be a drunken shambles.

I saw them in 75, and they were a drunken shambles, and it was absolutely great.

Dont doubt that for a minute, but Rod has changed since then, and audiences - especially those paying a lot of money for tickets - are older and a bit more discerning when it comes to expecting a degree of professionalism.

What was tolerable in 1975 may not be the case in 2009 for several reasons.

It would be nice if The Stones, starting from Sir Mick, would put their 1975 mood on... or not?

- Doxa

..as long as it doesnt mean turning up 3-4 hours late...

then again, Keith falling on his arse last summer was a throwback to a couple of shows in the mid 70's!

Ronnie thinks its 2003

The Faces putting on a well oiled professional show would be in contradiction to everything they stood for on the stage. I'm not saying they all have to be drunk to perform but not to be sloppy and loose sure aint a walk down memory lane which is what I suspect real Faces fans want. What, no "sing a longs" at the end of the shows even?!
Just a thought(and I aint trying to be argumentative) wouldnt any record company jump at the chance to distribute some of the most steady selling albums in history,even w/o new product? I really dont get why people think a new album would HAVE to be offered. Wont the cds still be sold long after the band does finally hang it up?



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Ye, Scottkeef but the big MONEY MACHINE wants to tour behind a new cd, it's easier to promote something new and chances are sales will be more steady with a new product. And I loved the Mercury cds by Rod & Co too especially Mercury Crossing, Every Picture Tells A Story, Gasoline Alley, etc and of course the Faces, A Nod Is As Good As A Wink To A Blind Horse!! Of course it's not necessary to put out a new cd with the size of the catalog. If Rod has learned anything by aging, it's that it's better to tour STRAIGHT than bombed out of your brain. Yet I don't love the new Rod catalog, the oldies tunes! I don't hate them, just not as good as vintage Rod.

I don't see a reunion tour of the Faces. Maybe I was missing some news but I have always heard that Rod doesn't like the idea of a reunion and I doubt he will change or has changed his mind. And this story about the girl talking to Ronnie (being all alone!) on the street and Ronnie telling her about his plans for the next year or sounds so unreal to me, almost unbelievable. No offence though. Great story anyway - hope it is true.

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olorin
Why can't the Faces tour as warm-up for the Stones ? Would be great if Ronnie is physically able to do it!!

sounds good but wouldnt the faces lose money on that deal

Tickets for Rod Stewart are pretty expensive compared to most acts. If the Faces would tour, I think the tickets would be more than a Rod Stewart ticket. Rod would still expect what he thinks he is worth. So, add that guarantee and what you need to pay Ron and company...you have yourself an expensive ticket.

I could see them do several shows but not a long outting. The market is not there to support it, IMO.

>> Maybe I was missing some news but ... <<

i guess you did miss some news, rrronnie - Rod announced on june 11th
that the surviving Faces are discussing doing some recording and at least a couple of shows.
here's a link: [www.tampabaysmix.com] - maybe you can still hear the interview?
the "summary" on that page isn't a very good reflection of what Rod actually said,
but ... well, there it is!

ahem, sorry for the digression! thanks to neilly & neice for the news - we'll see, won't we!

If Ronnie is far enough thru detox to be normally lucid, and lets hope he is, then April could make sense and lines up with the last few "ventures". Except it won't be the start of the tour, it will be the recording sessions - which will be followed by rehearsals and a Tour starting during the last summer..

fingers crossed - 2008 has been boring

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trainarollin
Tickets for Rod Stewart are pretty expensive compared to most acts. If the Faces would tour, I think the tickets would be more than a Rod Stewart ticket. Rod would still expect what he thinks he is worth. So, add that guarantee and what you need to pay Ron and company...you have yourself an expensive ticket.

I could see them do several shows but not a long outting. The market is not there to support it, IMO.

I wouldn't quarel with much of that. I too would be much more inclined to expect a small number of gigs over a short period..Maybe more akin to the Cream re-union than any real tour. A recording and DVD would make it a viable product I should think. [If they dare record it ;^) ]

I a sense it would be more vital for Ronnie to have his shit together for any Faces performances than it is within the Stones. Much of the Faces material is defined by Ronnie's riffs. I'm not belittling his contribution with the Stones... but the songs aren't so muchdefined by what Ronnie plays.
[Which is why it's more of an issue if Keith performs below par for the Stones, rather than Ronnie]



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"(she didn't know who the hell they were!)"

I laughed a lot ! that means we are getting old

Eventim has removed the disputed "Ticketalarm" for the Stones after 1 1/2 weeks. Was it indeed a joke? Even Led Zeppelin appears there still.

[www.eventim.de]

I think a "normal" world tour (US summer 2009-early 2010, then Asia, ROW and Europe) is more likely than an "Winter tour" in European halls for which a start of ticket sales in August-October could only be. On the other hand I'd prefer this (better setlists, all shows sold out, unless they want 200+ EUR for the tix).

Beginning in Asia is unlikely too.



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They will tour behind Rarities II. And I Like It, Yes I Do!

Jelle

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sluissie
They will tour behind Rarities II. And I Like It, Yes I Do!

Jelle

Nice. Then we can look forward for live versions of Cook Cook Blues and maybe Feel On Baby (Intrumental Dub)?!

All I can say I doubt the ticket alerts has anything
nto do with Ron's statements. Were they ever so early with a tour?
Or is it new management policies these days, perhaps.

I wanna hear Continental Drift live BTW.

Gazza, you commented on the Stones doing a new record and tour, in which you said "Also, Universal have not thrown several million dollars in the Stones direction to have them embark on a new spate of touring without a fresh product to promote. Its not like the Stones will have many more chances in future to make an album and then tour behind it."

Part of me thinks Universal saw how Virgin was with the Stones doing a new album and then how the Stones would 'tour behind it' when in fact they pretty much ignore it - for some reason the last album was pretty much a joke but the other two were well represented. With exception to the initial push and hype based strictly on release, why bother promoting it past the release date then when they hardly play the songs? I think those days are over.

They should just stick to doing singles.

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scottkeef
The Faces putting on a well oiled professional show would be in contradiction to everything they stood for on the stage. I'm not saying they all have to be drunk to perform but not to be sloppy and loose sure aint a walk down memory lane which is what I suspect real Faces fans want. What, no "sing a longs" at the end of the shows even?!

how many Faces fans are left 35 years on who would still be going to concerts and would still be interested? they werent THAT huge a band, really.

Audiences have moved on and are less likely to be tolerant about ragged performances than they were 30 years ago. Plus, like trainarollin says, a Faces tour has a limited market. Rod as a solo act vastly outgrew them in terms of popularity.

"They should just stick to doing singles."

Singles don't sell anymore

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skipstone
Gazza, you commented on the Stones doing a new record and tour, in which you said "Also, Universal have not thrown several million dollars in the Stones direction to have them embark on a new spate of touring without a fresh product to promote. Its not like the Stones will have many more chances in future to make an album and then tour behind it."

Part of me thinks Universal saw how Virgin was with the Stones doing a new album and then how the Stones would 'tour behind it' when in fact they pretty much ignore it - for some reason the last album was pretty much a joke but the other two were well represented. With exception to the initial push and hype based strictly on release, why bother promoting it past the release date then when they hardly play the songs? I think those days are over.

They should just stick to doing singles.

no one buys singles by 65 year olds, unfortunately - and record companies are loathe to even release them anymore.

I personally found Universal's decision to take on the Stones a bit baffling (I was sure they'd go with Live Nation, and a deal similar to Madonna's would have tied in better with the fact that these days the Stones make the bulk of their revenue from touring and merchandise. I suppose the falling out between LiveNation and Cohl put paid to that) - however I say that with the disclaimer that, despite some speculation, none of us seem to know what the terms and conditions of the deal actually WERE.

I see your point about the new stuff but maybe Universal feel that they'll be able to shift more units of a new album by a band touring to millions of people than Virgin/EMI did. While the Stones eventually proved reluctant to promote their new songs, their record label certainly underperformed in terms of sales considering the potential market they had.

I actually never found prove that they are obliged to deliver 3 new albums...
What I would do: record some songs, release them online, perhaps for free as MP3 and for 1€ as Flac. Then monitor the popularity, play those songs on tour that did comparably well

2009 will be exciting in all ways!!
acdc will be on the road , with som luck , since october/november
u2 will be around march/april 2009 .
And with a lot of luck the rolling stones on spring or late 2009!