No offence to anyone here. But I´ll believe it when I see it.

But they can't come back too soon either?

Why can't the Faces tour as warm-up for the Stones ? Would be great if Ronnie is physically able to do it!!

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Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)

Gazza,

I think that you're right to say the time is tight, given those events and outcomes; however, there may be more ways to look at it than saying it all has to happen by April 1st (not that you're saying that, exactly).

Folks have been known to leave rehab early. If Mr. Wood is on a day pass, perhaps he's in the accelerated class.

Playing with The Faces would (or may) help get Ron in shape for a later Stones tour, it's not 1:1 transferable skills by any means but there's a lot of leverage there, I submit.

The material for a Stones album may have been gestating since ABB, or even earlier, and Ron's parts may be done before a Faces tour.

The Stones tour would probably only be announced in April, not start then. it's likely that they could announce in April and start the tour in June or July. That would be in keeping, approximately, with the timing in 2002 and 2005.

Of course, I offer mere and idle speculation, but I'd suggest that it's not entirely unreasonable, given the hundreds of millions at stake--put differently, While your caution is well noted, there won't be too many springs left for such an announcement. And for me, that increases the possibility that it may happen.



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I think that for climatic reason, it is better to tour Asia in spring (or winter). At least they always did it !

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Sorry for my english ; I'm a french little boy (but I like it)

Well,
there is a radio presenter on Virgin Rock called...Guy Jagger.Maybe they were referring to him?

Anyone who knows when/if mick s on Virgin Radio?

"all the rum i want to drink it, and all the whisky too!"

Good on your niece, neilly43 - she is obviously well trained! Not forgetting either that even diehards can get tongue-tied when faced with a Rolling Stone.

Did she say whether Ronnie had any minders in tow - or was he alone?? It surely must be a good sign if he was let out on day release. More good vibes to him for a speedy recovery. I say he needs a tour to keep him on the straight and narrow.....

The Stones have done 3 tours without newly recorded material. 1975 began a year after IORR. Thats why the Made In The Shade album was released according to speculation at the time. 1981 was behind an album of outtakes which is why I suggested they could do it again. I imagine theres plenty of leftovers from the last few albums. And of course the Licks tour was off a greatest hits compilation. A couple of new songs on it really didnt count!
I agree if Rod wants to be a prick it could be tough. I would hope he 'd remember that the Faces made their name on being a glorified drunken bar band on the big stage(which was fine with me and I suspect most fans would be happy with that).
Is Universal getting the distribution rights to the albums back to SF? If so thats the draw for the big bucks. They'll make a fortune off the old stuff, much more than any new album.
I dont know -maybe if the Stones would simplify things(cut down on the sidemen
and theatricals) and go play what the REAL fans wanna hear it could be put together easier but I guess thats not being financially smart and "business as usual"!

Thanks Beast, there apparently was no sign of minders. He was very relaxed and friendly.

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The Stones have done 3 tours without newly recorded material. 1975 began a year after IORR. Thats why the Made In The Shade album was released according to speculation at the time. 1981 was behind an album of outtakes which is why I suggested they could do it again. I imagine theres plenty of leftovers from the last few albums. And of course the Licks tour was off a greatest hits compilation. A couple of new songs on it really didnt count!

1975 was an IORR tour in all but name.

They have a new recording contract, which is the main issue. Universal would have laughed them out of the office if they had been looking for a record deal and then suggested touring without having a new album ready when they do. Its not like Universal are going to get many other opportunities to recoup their multi million dollar advance on the back of the sales figures that a tour generates.

Additionally, the band have absolutely milked the greatest hits tour thing to death. Theres no way theyre going to go on the road for a lengthy period either a) without a new studio album or b) behind a greatest hits album just 6 years after the last one.

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im dissapointed. its now nearly a full year since we last had stones activity.

surely they wouldnt have needed any more than a 6 month break so it wasnt much to expect to at least be back in a studio by february 2008 with an album release in the autumn of 2008.

..Sure, after all, the last time they were in the studio making a new album within 12-18 months of finishing a tour was as recently as 1982...

OK Gaz! I aint gonna split hairs(cause I aint got enough to spare) with ya! HA HA

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Universal would have laughed them out of the office if they had been looking for a record deal and then suggested touring without having a new album ready when they do. . . . Theres no way theyre going to go on the road for a lengthy period either a) without a new studio album or b) behind a greatest hits album just 6 years after the last one.

I'm confused . . . So are you suggesting that another greatest hits album would be a new album?



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i bet they tour without a new album... they know no one cares about the new album or songs anyways... this will free them up to play a few old gems they don't normally play AND play the warhorses..

It'd be pretty embarassing if they went on tour without anything behind them. If they did tour...they'd have nothing "to talk about" at the traditional press conference to announce the tour. So they better come up with something. A new record would be impressive, another compilation set would not be surprising. To me, 40 Licks should remain the end-all/be-all compilation until at least the 50 year mark comes around.

DAMN DAMN AND DAMN(as Archie Bunker used to say) I still bet theres enough polished off outs to fill up a couple of cds!!!!!!!!
Or just spend a couple days in the studio and cut a bunch of Chuck Berry songs!!



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I think most of the tour rumor depends on how long the Faces tour is scheduled to last; it is conceivable that if Ronnie is fine soon, and can rehearse with Rod and Co. and tours from say Oct-Dec, the Stones could record and rehearse by Spring. There too, a lot depends om how much the Stones have in the can, left over from ABB. They must have at least 2 cds worth of material that can be polished up and released. A lot of IFS!

Theres my sweetheart!! Yeah, I wouldnt think the Faces tour would be a long drawn out affair either. With all due respect to the band a few shows in targeted cities wpuld probably do the trick.

I'd love to see a faces concert! I reckon it would be a huge draw. And Ronnie would be as hot as hell afterwards.....

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My thoughts exactly Gazza. However she said he was totally with it, not peed up. Must admit I was surprised about the 2 tours mentioned, but one of the good things of my niece not being a Stones fan she just repeated it verbatim, with no interpretation on it. He did not mention an album but like you cannot see why else they would go out on the road again without one...

neilly, thanks for the info and for sharing it with us.

Agreed that the timelines don't exactly mesh up but maybe.....just maybe.....a little conjecture on my part.........but maybe Ronnie was saying from the heart what his wish list of professional projects would be like in the foreseeable future.



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Hello Scottkeef, are you into the Faces!? That's one show I will try to see, for sure. I've always loved the Faces, great energy and Ronnie was a hottie back then....I meant as a guitarist but after seeing the Extra Scenes from SAL, Ronnie is STILL a hottie guitarist, only he rarely shows off his stuff. " Connection" is amazing as is " Factory Girl" and the unplugged Wild Horses is awesome. I never loved " Girl With Faraway Eyes" but I really enjoyed Ronnie on Steel peddle...oh well. I digress!

"they know no one cares about the new album or songs anyways"

I'd say thats wrong. I read 99.9% good reviews and the album sold pretty well in this day and age?

They just need to play more new stuff live....

Rod Stewart is on tour through August 30th, so the Faces won't be able to do any type of rehearsing until at least the beginning of September. As he has toured for the last 6 months solo, he may want a bit of a break before doing a Faces tour, so realistically it may not happen until late this year or after the new year.

Mick has reportedly been working with Dave Stewart, but perhaps that's not for a solo project and instead Dave is being brought in to work on a new Stones album? I know for a fact that Mick was in Los Angeles in the last 3-4 weeks (which is where Dave Stewart lives). They could do a new album like how they did A Bigger Bang where Ronnie was brought in only for overdubs and even then didn't appear on all of the songs.

If the Faces tour was over by March, it is conceivable that the Stones could start rehearsals with him then, maybe do a 1 month tour of Asia in April to May prior to release of the new album, then finish and release the album and start a North American tour in the more tradional month of August. I doubt they would do this, but who knows if the Stones will go with a new touring model this time around, with shorter tour legs and larger gaps of time between them.

Seems a bit farfetched that all of this will happen in this short of time, but as we've seen, Ronnie doesn't have to be very involved in a Stones album and the other 3 can prepare the album and tour while Ronnie is off with Faces.



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Yeah,Debra.. I've always loved the Faces. Gotta admit I kinda lost interest in Rod after the Mercury albums. But of course in those days it was hard to tell where Faces songs ended and Rods songs began! And I wont miss that show. I always bought all of Rons albums as soon as they hit the racks. When the New Barbarians played Ft Worth in 79 a lot of my friends were mad cause of "no special guests" but I was happy as a pig in sh-t! And one of the best versions of "Stay with Me" EVER(IMO) is the Slide On Live version. Turn that up to eleven and rock the house!

Faces was the first live band I ever saw (back in '72) and would love to see them again.
I have my doubts about this report, though.
The Stones are pretty good about keeping secrets about their future plans, so why would Ronnie open up to a young girl, assuming he was sober and lucid at the time?

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Universal would have laughed them out of the office if they had been looking for a record deal and then suggested touring without having a new album ready when they do. . . . Theres no way theyre going to go on the road for a lengthy period either a) without a new studio album or b) behind a greatest hits album just 6 years after the last one.

I'm confused . . . So are you suggesting that another greatest hits album would be a new album?

No...I'm suggesting that neither option a) (ie no record at all) or b) (a greatest hits release) will be feasible alternatives to tour behind.

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i bet they tour without a new album... they know no one cares about the new album or songs anyways... this will free them up to play a few old gems they don't normally play AND play the warhorses..

Licks Part III, then?

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Universal would have laughed them out of the office if they had been looking for a record deal and then suggested touring without having a new album ready when they do. . . . Theres no way theyre going to go on the road for a lengthy period either a) without a new studio album or b) behind a greatest hits album just 6 years after the last one.

I'm confused . . . So are you suggesting that another greatest hits album would be a new album?

No...I'm suggesting that neither option a) (ie no record at all) or b) (a greatest hits release) will be feasible alternatives to tour behind.

Ah ha! I was confused!

wouldnt surprise me if Mick and Keith have already met, and are digging through some old tapes. Streets of Love, if I remember correctly, was recorded early summer 2004. For all we know, they could be working on it now.