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Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: July 23, 2008 02:58

Well I've not heard that Mick was rotten to Ronnie; it may have been in Ronnie's autobiography, RONNIE, that I read all about the many visits Mick made to Ronnie's side to nudge him along and all of the words of encouragement. This is NOT made up! I read it! Keith is the one known for being nasty to Ronnie, even on stage. More of a jealousy thing, you know, dueling guitars.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: July 23, 2008 06:32



which tour is on?

get a grip - it's not even weekend!

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Beast ()
Date: July 23, 2008 12:44

No one's gonna replace Ronnie - and even if they were, MT is not it. He wouldn't fit in now.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Shawn20 ()
Date: July 23, 2008 12:48

Taylor truly never fit in with the Stones, however he WAS one hell of a guitar player.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: paulywaul ()
Date: July 23, 2008 13:05

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Beast
No one's gonna replace Ronnie - and even if they were, MT is not it. He wouldn't fit in now.

Only the great (and sober) Sir Ron of Kingston replaces the equally great (but unfortunately NOT at this moment sober) Ronnie .............

Viva Sir Ron !!

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Addicted ()
Date: July 23, 2008 13:08

Quote
mickschix
Well I've not heard that Mick was rotten to Ronnie; it may have been in Ronnie's autobiography, RONNIE, that I read all about the many visits Mick made to Ronnie's side to nudge him along and all of the words of encouragement. This is NOT made up! I read it! Keith is the one known for being nasty to Ronnie, even on stage. More of a jealousy thing, you know, dueling guitars.

Both Jo and Ronnie have been quoted on that Mick really hurt Ronnie, physically and psychologically, in Bergen, Norway on Sept 1st 2006. They told about this in interviews prior to the release of "Ronnie".
And Charlie's been heard saying....(first, a long speach, and then to close it) -And by the way: Stop bullying Ronnie!

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Addicted ()
Date: July 23, 2008 13:15

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melillo
in what ways has mick stood behind ronnie other than the licks tour, which was a great show of support from mick, but lets face it that was alot to do with bringing the circus back in town, mick has treated ronnie awful at times like the late 70s and early 80s, even charlie warned mick to stop being nasty to woody

Yes, this is true. Unfortunately.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: mr edward ()
Date: July 23, 2008 13:52

Quote
Beast
No one's gonna replace Ronnie - and even if they were, MT is not it. He wouldn't fit in now.

There are probably more and more things Taylor doesn't fit in anymore...

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: 1cdog ()
Date: July 23, 2008 15:01

I doubt the Stones would tour, in short order, without comrade Wood in tow.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: July 23, 2008 15:04

I'm surprised that Mick would physically assault anyone, really. What do we have as proof of this? Saying he abused Ronnie could mean yelling at him. I'll do a bit of investigating. Hey GAZZA, my man, where are you when I need you, my man?? What data do you have to prove or disprove this?

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Faye Slith ()
Date: July 23, 2008 15:23

just put up a cardboard cut-out of Ronnie on stage...at least we wouldn't get the silly plays at the crowd nor the screetching guitar muck-ups...better for the ears...mick can play guitar...

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 23, 2008 17:48

The only reason Taylor could even half way wing a Stones tour is because the majority of songs they play are stuck in that time frame. If they actually used their back catalog he'd be lost since it's so much bigger without him.

He'd be lost anyway.

Mick Taylor back in the lineup - dream ON!

Stones will tour with Ronnie. One last tour. Most likely in 2010. They just finished their last tour. They've hardly had any time off.

Besides, they need to find someone to reissue their own back catalog for the 13th time with another hits comp to promote it...

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: July 23, 2008 18:16

After reading 5 pages of this thread...I will weigh in.

Without Ronnie Wood, I will NOT pay to see the Rolling Stones in concert.

Enough already.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: July 23, 2008 18:22

Do we really hear the real Ron Wood at Stones shows? Ron is so restricted in what he plays, it's downright sad. I would say 2 out of 10 concerts, Ronnie will play some nice stuff.

Ronnie is a very good guitar player...when he's not playing w/The Stones.


Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 23, 2008 18:40

Last time I looked inside the credits for A Bigger Bang I saw Ronnie's name on several songs. I hear slide guitar on the album. Maybe he wasn't there for some of the live recording but he was certainly there for what he did.

Because it sure as fu*ck wasn't that Mick Taylor chick.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: melillo ()
Date: July 23, 2008 19:25

Quote
Kurt
After reading 5 pages of this thread...I will weigh in.

Without Ronnie Wood, I will NOT pay to see the Rolling Stones in concert.

Enough already.

I feel the same way, if the stones do try to tour without woody we should all boycott, i know i would for sure, we may not even have to boycott, because i truly feel that charlie would not stand for it either



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-07-23 19:30 by melillo.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: MCDDTLC ()
Date: July 23, 2008 19:31

Albett - Taylor has stated many times he would like to sit-in with the Stones.
He would jump at the chance if offered, and again it would be nice to include
Taylor not exclude Ronnie. All the people who say: No chance don't know what
they are talking about, Keith Ronnie & Taylor are still : Mates
And that was from Keith in an interview!!

Again - if Keith was to push the point, got Charlie on his side it might happen,
maybe a one night reunion in London with Bill included, they could call it;

Sucking in the 70's - music from Sticky Fingers, EOMS, Goats Head Soup, IORR.

Something makes me think that might draw some interest??

Even Anita P. told Keith that's the only way she would come to see the Stones again Live, if they played: EOMS...

It's up to you - Glimmer Twins... MLC

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 23, 2008 19:34

Quote
Kurt
After reading 5 pages of this thread...I will weigh in.

Without Ronnie Wood, I will NOT pay to see the Rolling Stones in concert.

Enough already.

That's ok with me,2 tickets left already in case they play with Taylor.
I'll be there then....

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: bumbum ()
Date: July 23, 2008 19:35

Quote
melillo
Quote
Kurt
After reading 5 pages of this thread...I will weigh in.

Without Ronnie Wood, I will NOT pay to see the Rolling Stones in concert.

Enough already.

I feel the same way, if the stones do try to tour without woody we should all boycott, i know i would for sure

If Mick T will be playing I will pay whatever it takes - he is the man that can lift Stones guitar playing to where it belongs. To lift it an inch doesn't take too much these days - fx Sympathy for the devil is a joke.

Imagine a real fantastic Can't you hear me knocking solo, Sympathy for the devil solo, an Angie solo, a Midnight Rambler, a Dancing with mister D solo, Jumping Jack Flash solo, Street Fighting Man solo, Sway solo etc.

It sound like a fantastic thing in my ears - what are waiting for; Mick T come back.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: July 23, 2008 19:39

If it´s without Ronnie - then it´s without me!

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: bumbum ()
Date: July 23, 2008 19:39

Just listen to Brussels affair and you will start dreaming about the old guitar playing that could have a renaissance with Mick T. presence.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:10

Cant believe theres's actually 5 pages on this bullshit non-story (not to mention the other threads started by those who have somehow missed it)

Incredible straw clutching by some fantasists who seemed trapped in an early 70s timewarp.

It really is the silly season - one of the worst threads ever

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:12

OLD guitar playing.

Exactly. As in history. Will never be new again. Nor present.

But hey, that's what dreaming is all about - it's not reality.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Ket ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:14

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bumbum
Just listen to Brussels affair and you will start dreaming about the old guitar playing that could have a renaissance with Mick T. presence.

I have listened to it and Taylor ruins about half the tracks with his endless, pointless guitar wanking. The absolute last thing they need is to have that washed up has been join them

Please get well Ronnie!

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:28

Let's just start calling Mick Taylor 'Stroker' for all the people that are so fond of his wanking off...

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: timbernardis ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:44

how bout just @#$%&?

Now I do recall some stories about Mick hitting and or kicking Ronnie onstage and or in rehearsals and Charlie getting pissed off and telling Mick to lay off him.

There was some of this discussion in an IORR thread some months ago.


p

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: bumbum ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:51




Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: Anonymous User ()
Date: July 23, 2008 20:55

Quote
skipstone
OLD guitar playing.

Exactly. As in history. Will never be new again. Nor present.

But hey, that's what dreaming is all about - it's not reality.

That's what the R.Stones are all about anyway,I mean ,if you are going talk like that...they might as well split up now.
There are a lot of people out there that would smile very gently if Taylor would
join once more.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: texas fan ()
Date: July 23, 2008 21:08

Quote
Shawn20
Taylor truly never fit in with the Stones, however he WAS one hell of a guitar player.

Well, I get your point about not fitting in, but I don't think I agree, at least musically. In fact, I think Taylor did his best work when he WAS fitting in. As to your second comment, I totally agree, but I also think he's still quite a fine player, though maybe not as vibrant and creative as the Taylorites here seem to believe.

While I'm babbling, I've said things to the effect that I don't think he should be considered as a replacement for Ronnie, but just to clarify, I think it would be pretty cool to hear him in a one-time, or even occasional, guest slot, along with Bill.

Re: Tour is on - Maybe without Ronnie - Holy Shit
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: July 23, 2008 21:32

I like the weaving much better. So that leaves Mick Taylor out. There was no weaving with Taylor. He was also a very unsympathetic guitar player.

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