Have the stones ever met elvis?, i heard a rumour that they don't like elvis at the time.

The Stones don't like Elvis? Keith has always said that he loves Elvis and he is a huge fan of Scotty Moore. He's even claimed that "Heartbreak Hotel" is the best or one of the best rock & roll songs of all time.

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Have the stones ever met elvis?, .

No. They never met each other.

buuuuuuut Elvis lives...so there's still a chance

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Have the stones ever met elvis?, .

No. They never met each other.

In David Meyers' great Gram Parsons bio, 'Twenty Thousand Roads' he writes Keith, Anita, Gram, and Gram's girl Andee Nathanson went to see Elvis in Vegas in Fall 1969. According to Nathanson, "we met Elvis backstage afterward. I think it was one of the great highlights of Gram's life."

So maybe Mr Richards and Mr Presley did meet.

... but was Anita in the US in the autumn of 1969? everything i've read indicates she was in the UK.
Marlon had just been born; Keith phoned them every day; wild horses and all that.
maybe Nathanson was confused. Anita of course was around in 68, for the historic visit to Joshua Tree,
commemorated in photos and in the Nudie suit that Gram had made for Keith.

Ronnie, along with the other Faces, did see Elvis perform. i don't think they met, though.



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While there isn't an exact date listed in the book(page 304, for those who have it), it mentions it was around the time the Stones were mixing Let it Bleed in LA in Oct. 69. Maybe you're right Ms Sssoul, Maybe Gram's girl got the year wrong.

>> Maybe Gram's girl got the year wrong. <<

yeah, it seems like she must have - all the sources really do indicate that Anita stayed home in the autumn of 69.
or maybe she got the year right but the individuals in attendance wrong.
anyway it seems like if Keith had met Elvis, he surely would've mentioned it a time or two, no?

ps: Gazza or Rockman will know, but i'm not sure the autumn of 68 is plausible either -
was Elvis performing in Vegas then? if it's the year that's wrong and Keith and Anita were there,
it seems more likely to have been later than 69, not earlier. if it's the people in attendance who are wrong,
maybe the lady mistook Ronnie for Keith? she wouldn't be the first or last :E



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Elvis wasn't performing in Vegas Autumn 68

thanks ablett - that's what i thought. was he performing there in october 69?

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if it's the people in attendance who are wrong,
maybe the lady mistook Ronnie for Keith? she wouldn't be the first or last :E

I suppose she could have have messed up the details of an event 40 yrs in the past. I never read or heard of any connection between Gram Parsons and Ronnie though.

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thanks ablett - that's what i thought. was he performing there in october 69?

i'm not sure what he was doing in October (i'll try to find out) but, if this is helpful in that direction, his triumphant return to concert stage was at the International Hilton (Vegas) in the last days of July '69.

the seeds to him re-starting his concert career was the Christmas TV special in '68, now commonly and accurately described as the 'comeback.'

so while the Stones were getting their (our our) Ya-Ya's out, Elvis returned to the stage summer '69, just a few weeks before the Woodstock festival.
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(He turned 34 in August of '69, and the next time the Stones gave a world tour, in support of EOMS in '72, Mick would be all over variations of E's jumpsuit costume.)



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>> his triumphant return to concert stage was at the International Hilton (Vegas) in the last days of July '69. <<

thanks Beely! and it was a four-week stand? it would be interesting to know about october 69 too,
if it's easy to check that out. the Department of Historical Accuracy is outside its usual field here,
and is relying on the kindness of learned informants in associated regions. :E

>> I never read or heard of any connection between Gram Parsons and Ronnie though. <<

yes, that was meant as a bit of farfetched humour - sorry!
as i noted Ronnie was with the other Faces when he saw Elvis - i guess it was in late august 72? -
which doesn't seem like a situation where many people would be *very* inclined to mistake him for Keith.

It was a four week, 57 show contract. I've found starting dates claiming both July 29 and July 31, as the kickoff show...
(...slowly creeping toward October '69 in our quest to supply more info to the Department of Historical Accuracy (DHA)... )



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elvispresleymusic.com has him vacationing with various extended families of close friends, and Priscilla, to L.A. then Hawaii, early Oct. 69. Reportedly they had plans to continue the vacations in Europe but the Colonel thought that the Euro fans would be 'insulted' if he came to vacation before performing in the UK or on the continent...and convinced them all to go to the Bahamas for gambling instead...instead.

the colonel "argued vociferously" for this, as so it was...
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...sidenote for BG singer fans, Cissy Houston, (Cissy Houston and The Sweet Inspirations,) and eventually mother of Whitney Houston, was a featured part of his live ensemble...
I have some of Cissy's vinyl releases from this era and she's absolutely wonderful.



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As duly noted by sssoul, surely Keith would have mentioned meeting Elvis in print, and would probably have continuously exaggerated the story over and over to the point where he and Elvis went on a week-long fried peanut butter and banana sandwich bender. Like the cock 'n bull story where Keith met Muddy Waters, who was painting ceiling of Chess studios.

>> vacationing with various extended families of close friends, and Priscilla, to L.A. then Hawaii, early Oct. 69 <<

the Department of Historical Accuracy and i thank you kindly, Beely! have some popcorn :E

I've sent an email to David Meyer, author of the Gram book. Let's see if he responds and can clear this up.

>> I've sent an email to David Meyer, author of the Gram book. <<

thanks fiftyamp, from the Department of Historical Accuracy and myself [passing popcorn]
let us know if he replies, okay? even though i've never read the book, i'm intrigued now.
Stanley Booth of course mentions Gram being around the Stones a lot in LA in the autumn of 69;
and he mentions the Stones going to various rock & roll shows in town, so maybe the lady being quoted
was right about the timing and about Keith being in attendance, just mixed up about
which Rock & Roll Legend they saw together. if you see what i mean.



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This is what Elvisnews.com says about Elvis in october 1969:

October 01, 1969
Elvis flew to Dallas, returning the following day.

October 05, 1969
Elvis flew to Los Angeles, then continued on to Hawaii together with Priscilla, Vernon and Dee, the Espositos, the Gambills and the Schillings, in a trip largely paid by the International Hotel.

October 12, 1969
Elvis and Priscilla, Vernon and Dee, the Esposito's, the Gambills and the Schillings returned to Los Angeles. The group had come up with the thought to spend their vacation in Europe. Every single one of them really wanted to go to Europe, and the ones without a passport went to arrange for one. The Colonel, however, argued with them that Elvis' European fans would never accept that Elvis would come to Europe as a tourist and not as a performer. So the plans changed and the bunch switched to the Bahamas.

October 22, 1969
The four couples, Elvis and Priscilla, the Esposito's, the Gambills and the Schillings flew to Miami and then on to Nassau. They stayed at the Paradise Island Hotel. Unfortunately the weather was that bad the whole bunch returned home earlier than intended.

October 30, 1969
Elvis flew to Las Vegas. He was spotted by a gossip columnist Rona Barrett at the blackjack tables with a woman on each arm. Rona wrote in her column: " everybody is commenting on how good Elvis Presley looks these days while he's having fun at the International". Elvis answer in response was: "That's what a bad marriage does for you"

thanks Crossfire Hurricane - so that rules out october!
i tried to check the "day by day" section of the Elvis site for the first week of november 1969 -
that seems like the only other "window of opportunity", since Keith (sans Anita) was in LA then -
but the site tells me that section is for members only. if anyone's up to checking it out,
that would be way cool - please and thank you kindly.

i guess it's also *barely* possible that Keith was in the States in august 1969,
and could've caught an Elvis performace with Gram ... but Marlon was born on august 10th (in the UK)
and we've got those sweet photos of the happy family going home together just after his birth;
there are also photos of Keith attending the Isle of Wight festival on august 16th.
so until further notice, i'm not sure it seems very likely that he was also in the US that month.

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October 30, 1969
Elvis flew to Las Vegas. He was spotted by a gossip columnist Rona Barrett at the blackjack tables with a woman on each arm.

Rumors go he hasn't left the building and is still playing blackjack in Las Vegas.

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October 30, 1969
Elvis flew to Las Vegas. He was spotted by a gossip columnist Rona Barrett at the blackjack tables with a woman on each arm.

Rumors go he hasn't left the building and is still playing blackjack in Las Vegas.

I knew it! I thought the dealer looked familiar!

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thanks Crossfire Hurricane - so that rules out october! i tried to check the "day by day" section of the Elvis site for the first week of november 1969 - that seems like the only other "window of opportunity", since Keith (sans Anita) was in LA then - but the site tells me that section is for members only. if anyone's up to checking it out, that would be way cool - please and thank you kindly.

Here you go:

November 1969
Most of this month and even part of December Elvis flew back and forth between Las Vegas and Palm Springs and Los Angeles.

November 02, 1969
Elvis flew to Palm Springs.

November 07, 1969
Elvis returned to Las Vegas. He visited a doctor there and got an antibiotic treatment.

So Elvis was in LA some time in November but he wasn't performing at that time (not until January 26, 1970, when his second 4 week engagement in Las Vegas started)

>> not until January 26, 1970, when his second 4 week engagement in Las Vegas started <<

thanks again Crossfire Hurricane! [passing fresh popcorn] Keith was in London mixing YaYas in jan/feb 70,
but i reckon he might have loped over to the States in that timeframe - maybe even with Anita.
it still seems like he would've mentioned it sometime if he'd seen Elvis perform, but ... well, i guess it's possible!

So Keith DID meet Elvis (and Scotty Moore) after all

smile: yeah Elvis is a famous denizen of Camp X-Ray :E
meanwhile Scotty Moore's website has a lot of cool stuff on it: [www.scottymoore.net]
it's a very rewarding site to explore a bit - have fun!

Thanks sssoul for the fresh popcorn . Scotty's website is great indeed; the pages about the venues and his guitars are interesting to read!

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