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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: February 14, 2008 11:14

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melillo
lol, amy looks like the bride of frankenstein and she looks better than she sings

oh look... another deaf-blind iorrian. as i said before: i always blush when reading statements like this. how embaressing.....

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 14, 2008 14:32

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soundcheck
.... im currious how many who post here have been in rehab?????

..or who have performed live before a worldwide TV audience whilst in mid-rehab and a couple of days after quitting heroin and crack by going cold turkey.

Pretty impressive achievement under the circumstances, I would have thought.

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 14, 2008 15:37

Oh, hey look, it's Gaz and the Gang.... How ya fella's doin" on a chiper Valentine's Day? Well did you hear the news? The next issues of British and French GQ are declaring Amy Winehouse as totally uncool and over. Sad, I know...so I guess that's it but don't fear cause Helter's found ANOTHER SINGER for all of us and this one will knock your socks off with a much better voice, look, and stage moves. I know you'll love her right away so just check out the vid's and dig the music - Helter smiling smiley

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HelterSkelter
Did Someone say "one for the ages" Here you go, now THIS is what true, pure SUPERSONIC TALENT looks/sounds like (the girl is a bit of a slight emotional mess from time to time but a super hot mess she is AND still makes ALL the gigs AND doesn't use a life of drug abuse to promote herself - no songs about rehab) I GIVE YOU !!!.....

VOICE AND FACE FOR THE AGES #1





VOICE AND FACE FOR THE AGES #2





VOICE AND FACE FOR THE AGES #3



Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 14, 2008 15:43

Cant see YouTube at work, so I've no idea (or interest) who the latest Helter 'flavour of the week' is in this obsessive anti-Winehouse fixation. Nor do I care. I judge good music on what I hear, not what someone looks like, moves like or what some fuckwitted publication recommends I should be listening to.

If I took that shite seriously, I'd have given up on the Stones around 1972.



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: February 14, 2008 15:44

isn't Helter Skelter like the ultimate oximoron in terms of rationality. Nevertheless, I hope Winehouse pulls it together and that her next body of work is anywhere close to the last one which was phenomenal....what a triumph that would be.



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: February 14, 2008 16:09

yeahyeah helter...you're obviously more interested in young and pretty girls.
she's looking good and her voice is alright. thats it. she's about 2000 light years away from amys talent.
but hey, what can you expect from someone saying that paris hilton is on a par with amy winehouse??? i quite like your persistence. it's cute somehow...
but that doesnt change the fact that concerning this topic you're soooooooooooooooooooo wrong!
sorry dude and open your ears!

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 14, 2008 19:51

I agree TOTALLY GB, she is about 2000 light years AHEAD of Amy, I'm so glad we finally see eye to eye on this one - GREAT NEWS BRO' !!!smiling smiley

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 14, 2008 19:57

So we finally get to the core of Helter's problem with Amy Winehouse; he can't appreciate a female artist he don't find attractive. That's a pretty limited view on both music and women, to say the least.



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 14, 2008 21:00

Awww, come on Snowman, I don't have to have a fantastic face (big fan of Joan Osbourne and she's no 10) but a few cock roaches crawling down from around Amy's inner legs (I believe I saw a couple for a second or two at the Grammy performance) I do find a bit of a turn off. Naw, besides FIONA APPLE'S amazing voice and carrying a perfect tune this is another thing I totally dig about her-

REBEL REBEL (how did Snowman KNOW ??), HOT TRAMP, I Love You So (..."This world is Bullsh*t" - you go FIONA !!! TAKE CHARGE, YOU TELL 'EM !!!)







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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 14, 2008 21:51

My god !!! It seems like you (helter) agree with anyone who is on the witch-hunt..against amy..it feels like you play a game...while she is fighting you attack her.....i know you dont like her at all.....not even her music...but you also like to hurt her and play games with people who like her music...thats sad have fun man!

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 14, 2008 21:58

you come and fight and have fun putting here down....and you love all the plastic dolls!!

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:05

I think that there are now more than five threads about Amy...that says something.....it reminds me of the older people hating the stones in the 6 and seventies...have fun with Joss Stone!!

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:36

Rooster, chill my friend, she your wife or something? Here's the thing (I'll get 100% serious for a second) I can't stand "Artists" that use a gigantic gimmick to get known. If you have raw , pure talent like Fiona Apple you just put your CD out and enough people hear it and get blown away. To Say Amy is a victim is pure bullshit cause she's the one that put out a song about not going to REHAB as a single. That's not a gimmick? Letting the whole world know you have drug problems through a song and then being defiant? What a cheap, low blow.... it makes KISS' stupid white face make-up seem brilliant (another band I CAN"T STAND !!!). Just get up on stage and sing/play, the way ELVIS did, the way THE BEATLES did, the way the STONES did... if you have talent the people will come, if you don't have the talent I guess cheap tricks and making addiction to crack look cool so her young fans can copy her is the only way and totally digusting - she's an insecure low life no talent, can't sing, can't move, can't function. She's so effed up and untogether she can't even get a visa to get to LA to perform 2 short songs for less than 10 minutes - TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL, doesn't deserve the fame and money - messes never last so by next year it will be AMY WHO?..... OUT THE DOOR SKANK, NEXT PLEASE (talent talks/bullshit stunts walk) !!!!

There you go ROOSTER, 100% Serious answer, anymore questions?



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: andrewm ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:42

I really miss Leonard Kerringer.

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:43

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HelterSkelter
she's an insecure low life no talent, can't sing, can't move, can't function. ..... OUT THE DOOR SKANK, NEXT PLEASE !!!!

Why post this rubbish when you have HARDLY listened to Amy Winehouse at all????

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: WMiller ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:44

I miss StonesTod.

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:52

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HelterSkelter
If you have raw , pure talent like Fiona Apple you just put your CD out and enough people hear it and get blown away.

If you think Amy Winehouse has no talent, you're deaf and blind

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HelterSkelter
To Say Amy is a victim is pure bullshit cause she's the one that put out a song about not going to REHAB as a single. That's not a gimmick?

How can it be a gimmick ? You think she started smoking crack to "fit into her single"?

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HelterSkelter
She's so effed up and untogether she can't even get a visa to get to LA to perform 2 short songs for less than 10 minutes - TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL

I have no words for this nonsense...



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 14, 2008 22:59

...you know Helter...those 2 songs at the grammys moved me....not my fav songs of her at all!! but the ending parts of both ''Im no good'' and '''Rehab''(the satisfaction from Amy...but only one year old instead of 40 years! so why blame her for doing it!) was deep soul!! she is the best...really dont like your clean girls



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 14, 2008 23:01

Erik, I've heard about 5 to 6 songs on You Tube and now the one open-g left on another thread of mine - the Valentine one - and you know what, I've listened, I've looked, I've tried, but, in the end... SHE F*CKING SUCKS (one LAST time - she can't sing and she can't move. Keith can't sing but at least he's got soul - she ain't got that either) no way around it - there's just very little talent there, IT'S ALL GIMMICK (and you guys are falling for it). Can't stand so called PRO's that can't get themselves together - SO pathetic.....having a "Magic Voice" (she doesn't but people think she does) is not to be wasted - ask Mick, Plant, Morrison, Lennon, McCartney, Rodger Waters, Sheryl Crow, Steven Tyler, Bruce, Eddie Vedder, on and on and on.......DOn'T WASTE THE GIFT IF YOU HAVE ONE !!!!

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 14, 2008 23:10

So much bad music i heard...but now there is a great artist wich is very popular and moving and having big hits all over the world(her album and single...older folks was asking foo the single '''Valerie'' so they even reinvented the single in holland!) mind you....

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 14, 2008 23:11

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HelterSkelter
Can't stand so called PRO's that can't get themselves together - SO pathetic.....

If there were as many mobile phones and small cameras in the 70s as there is now - you'd bet a lot of the people you mentioned (above) would have been getting the same headlines as Amy Winehouse - nevermind Bruce Springsteen.
Are you aware that a lot of these artists were totally wasted for quite a long time?

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HelterSkelter
.......DOn'T WASTE THE GIFT IF YOU HAVE ONE !!!!

Of course she shouldn't be doing drugs; it's not good for anyone. It's her albums and concerts that makes people pay attention, not the newsreports in THE SUN....news and sensations about her drugabuse is just easy money and easy-to-grasp-information for everybody that don't care for her music in the first place



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 14, 2008 23:12

Steven Tyler!!!????

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 14, 2008 23:25

You guys groove on what you want but I ain't gonna listen to it if I don't like it. Clean Girls? yeah, they beat crabs, vag warts, and yeast infections - jump into your Dirty Girl boys.......don't forget the Amoxicillin.... I'd double the dosage.....

ERIK, GIMMICK? Yeah, she has a song about not going to REHAB, that's not a GIMMICK ?? Jagger still won't put out @#$%& BLUES cause it shows him rolling a joint - but he's a responsible pro that understands the importance of Work/performance Visa's and showing up at show's, ready to perform. What is with you, I thought you were one of the sharp ones all this time.....



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 15, 2008 02:55

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rooster
Steven Tyler!!!????
Yeah, Tyler can sing fine and is a Damn good performer - saw them live - Aerosmith - many, many times......

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: The Sicilian ()
Date: February 15, 2008 03:57

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Gazza
I judge good music on what I hear, not what someone looks like, moves like or what some fuckwitted publication recommends I should be listening to.

Gazza, you must have special privileges to be able to post the F-word without getting it $#@$ out.

It must be the St. Patrick's Day pass. How is our beloved Donovan doing over there?

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: February 15, 2008 04:08

Amy's a great singer.

While Natalie Cole posesses a "pleasant talent," she wasted a a number of years embarrassing herself as a "super substance abuser. I was amazed to think she would speak out against anyone else in such a righteous, uncompassionate way.

Piss off Natalie.

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: mofur ()
Date: February 15, 2008 12:56

I'm a huge Amy Winehouse fan - just, so that is clear winking smiley I think she is the biggest talent to have emerged in quite some time. And I don't think her drug-related problems are "faked" for publicity - rather that her bad-girl rep has gone a bit out of hand.

As for the music - judge it on the music alone. I don't get this idea of having to put someone down to elevate somebody else.

I mean - either they are good or they are not. Music is not a competition. We're here to celebrate - mainly - the Rolling Stones and occasionally other groups or artists.

And I do not see how Amy Winehouse is better because somebody does not like Natalie Cole or worse because somebody likes Fiona Apple. I just don't get it. And why is that "chick singers" are always compared to other "chick singers"? Is she not in competetion with Justin Timberlake or whoever is filling up the air waves at this time?

As for the whole Natalie Cole business, if this thread is a response to her trashing Amy Winehouse, it rather seems to deflate the purpose if you just put NC down mindlessly - seing that is what we are accusing her of doing to AW in the first place?

There should be two points to this, IMHO:
1. Artists should not slag off other artists. Period!
2. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glasshouse yourself.

If you've liked Natalie Cole in the past, how can she suddenly be bad - musically speaking - because of her outburst and vice versa? But you can accuse her of being a hypocrite if only half of what is written about her own substance abuse is true.

As for hijacking this thread to trash Amy Winehouse - I believe there are four or five other threads for that "purpose" - this thread should be dealing with Natalie Cole slagging off Amy Winehouse - is it wrong or is it right? Simple as thatsmiling smiley



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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 15, 2008 12:59

slag.....track 8



ROCKMAN

Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: HelterSkelter ()
Date: February 15, 2008 13:27

Here's a post Valentine's day SHOUT OUT to my hyper intense friends ROOSTER and SNOWMAN who seem to be ready to defend Amy to the Death (it's only a chat board boys, no reason to get excited. Put the knives away) Here's another pure talent - don't know if she's a clean or dirty girl, you boys tell me - BTW, She's mainly Sicilian so THE SICILIAN (who started this fine thread) should keep that in mind smiling smiley

CARNIVAL (Live) - Natalie Merchant





NOWHERE MAN (Live) - Natalie Merchant







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Re: Natalie Cole trashes Amy Winehouse after the Grammys.
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: February 15, 2008 13:38

Good to see HelterSkelters working on his own personal fanbase again....

Its all nonscence.

Like I said before, many people wrote the Stones of in the beginning as filthy, talentless upstarts who were totally unprofessional.

When it comes down to it its what floats your boat that counts....

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