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Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: February 4, 2008 21:19

So I was cruising rollingstone.com and there's a cool bit on the 69 tour and then something on Altamont...from 1970.

How come people still insist Sympathy was being played when Hunter was killed when it was Under My Thumb? Why can't that simple fact just be? The dude is talking about he movie but...he obviously didn't watch the movie.

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Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: February 4, 2008 21:45

It's easier to lay it on that song......it simply perpetuates thier whole image at that time. If you think about it though...it's sort of wierd that it happened during Under My Thumb.....Like the crowd was under the thumb of the Angels.

Or the fact that the whole "dream" was crushed under the thumb of it's own inability to idealism

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: February 4, 2008 21:56

"Under my thumb
theres a hammer
cocked on my Colt"

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: Cafaro ()
Date: February 4, 2008 22:48

I couldn't have said it better myself...............I think

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 4, 2008 23:04

>> The dude is talking about he movie but...he obviously didn't watch the movie. <<

yes, obviously the author hadn't watched the movie - the date on that article is february 1970.
the film premiered on december 6th 1970. the article is about the event, not a movie review,
and it's not really an example of how "people keep insisting" anything - more like one of the reasons
people had the impression that that's what happened.

if memory serves it was Rolling Stone that first printed the error that the murder happened during SFTD,
in a special issue just after the concert. and as Cafaro said that idea resonated so much that it simply took hold,
as if it "should have been true" even though it wasn't.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-05 00:43 by with sssoul.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: DaveG ()
Date: February 5, 2008 00:45

Oh, that's just great!! Thanks for ruining a great story about Altamont. I suppose you going to now tell me that they hadn't REALLY sold their souls to Satan back then, and really weren't devil worshippers . . . .

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: February 6, 2008 18:12

The insisting bit is that there has not been any effort to correct it with old articles like that one yet alone over the years it's been said over and over and over in various publications - I even read a post by some person who insisted they were AT Altamont and that SFTD WAS being played...

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 6, 2008 19:05

well some violence did go down during SFTD - that's in the film too.
so someone who was there was confused - that's no big surprise.
anyway i encourage you to write to the Rolling Stone website with your protest -
it doesn't do much good here.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: February 6, 2008 20:40

Oh I'm not sure if it's a protest, just a simple stating of observation and how things just continue to get mis-presented.

Like writing to rollingstones.com will do anything. I just find it funny...

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: February 6, 2008 21:04

That's how i heard it in the mid 80s,I think some people in their heads want to put the murder and the song together because of the whole Devil image thing.
It was'nt til I got into the Stones myself that I found out about Under My Thumb.
I wonder how they felt rehearsing the song for the 81 Tour?

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Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: Jed Clever ()
Date: February 6, 2008 21:28

Another error that this author perpetrates, as due many, including some posters here, is the incorrect assertion that Merideth Hunter was "murdered". The Angel who killed Hunter, Alan Passaro, was found not guilty by reason of self defense in his trial. The actual Gimme Shelter footage of the killing was key evidence that led to the acquittal. The moral to the story? Don't pull a gun on a Hells Angel unless you actually shoot him.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 6, 2008 21:34

>> Like writing to rollingstones.com will do anything. <<

what i suggested was RollingStone.com, not rollingstones.com - the magazine's site, where you found the article.
but if you prefer protesting on a forum where the protest a] isn't needed and b] won't change anything,
carry on just as you are, of course.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: WMiller ()
Date: February 6, 2008 21:38

Quote
Jed Clever
Another error that this author perpetrates, as due many, including some posters here, is the incorrect assertion that Merideth Hunter was "murdered". The Angel who killed Hunter, Alan Passaro, was found not guilty by reason of self defense in his trial. The actual Gimme Shelter footage of the killing was key evidence that led to the acquittal. The moral to the story? Don't pull a gun on a Hells Angel unless you actually shoot him.

So Nicole Simpson & Ron Goldman weren't murdered?

I do agree with what you say the moral of the story is.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: Jed Clever ()
Date: February 6, 2008 22:28

Quote
WMiller
Quote
Jed Clever
Another error that this author perpetrates, as due many, including some posters here, is the incorrect assertion that Merideth Hunter was "murdered". The Angel who killed Hunter, Alan Passaro, was found not guilty by reason of self defense in his trial. The actual Gimme Shelter footage of the killing was key evidence that led to the acquittal. The moral to the story? Don't pull a gun on a Hells Angel unless you actually shoot him.

So Nicole Simpson & Ron Goldman weren't murdered?

I do agree with what you say the moral of the story is.

There was a specific factual finding of self defense in the Passaro killing. There was even evidence presented that Hunter actually fired a shot towards the stage before he was killed. It is quite possible that Passaro saved someone (maybe even Mick's) life. Why do you bring up a totally irrelevant issue such as the OJ trial? If you contend Hunter was indeed murdered, please state your legal and factual reasoning.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: skipstone ()
Date: February 6, 2008 22:29

I'm not protesting. Get off your pony. Just simply stating that it's funny that a wrong fact is still presented as truth.

You are right though, I misunderstood which website.

Re: Sympathy At Altamont
Posted by: Jed Clever ()
Date: February 7, 2008 00:01

Quote
skipstone
I'm not protesting. Get off your pony. Just simply stating that it's funny that a wrong fact is still presented as truth.

You are right though, I misunderstood which website.

Its not a pony, its a high horse. I use a step ladder.



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