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Thanks for the review....is this maybe one of the best R&S movie s? And if so why? Cant wait!

On DVD, I guess it will be. small venue, intimate, funny...and, and, and

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The most disgusting thing about the spectacle was that all those "celebs"
became Stonesfans overnight. When asked which Stones song ....

Complete idiots!

Have mercy on all those actores.
This was not a Stones event perse.
it's a major film festival - but the Stones did cause a big buzz all around.

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i guess i ended up on the cutting room floor - they filmed me dancing for a few minutes during the 2nd show. it's probably for the best...

I wouldn't count on that, LQ.
I was peering hard, but there's no slo-mo at the flix and the film is moving fast.
did you wear a dark tank-top?

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Danish music mag Gaffa ...

The reviewer loves it. He thinks it's better than The Last Waltz. Here is a list of his critiques of the film tough:

- The archive material is more interesting than hearing Satisfaction for the umpteenth time. (Typical statement BTW).

- Why use an interview made by Chris Evans a few years ago? Make some new interviews.

- No Brian Jones, Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman. Not even in the archive material. The reviewer states that this comes close to rewriting history. (Another typical statement from a guy who didn't quite get the general idea).

- Very weird ending that looks more like something from a bad commercial, than a dignified end to a great movie.

- All the above things the reviewer says is small things and that Scorsese have made the fantastic concert film he wanted to make. Quote: "This is not a documentary. The clips a small detours on the road through a great concert experience that's almost as good as the real thing.

We know the interviews by Chris Evans - all other are likely to not know them.
that's half a point.

No Brian, Taylor, Wyman ....yada yada
are they in the band today?
actually With Sssoul told me to make that abundantly clear in the first review . She saw this coming.
I'm sorry I forgot. was too tired

I've seen and heared Satisfaction for the umpteenth time too - but this one is special, I liked it very much and there is no way Marty could leave that out.

about the weird ending - It's actually two endings.
it's funny and takes you high, then it all of a sudden breaks - thats when Ahmed Ertegün is remembered^^
But Marty wants an end with a smile - so he does.

Quote: "This is not a documentary. The clips a small detours on the road through a great concert experience that's almost as good as the real thing.
thats right



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(And before I get any comments on it - The line about a vault release I wrote: Yes Rarities 1971-2003 was sort of a vault release, and yes they did leave out Bill Wyman on the cover. The reason for that was probably not to rewrite history, but rather to show a pic of the band that actually released this CD. Bill was not in that band at the time).

Fair enough, but are there no photos of the 4-piece version of the band in existence? Why not use a latter day photo instead of a doctored one from 1978? Choosing THAT option merely makes them look petty.

Maybe they thought it was a nice picture that deserved to be an album cover. If I was to put up a pic of myself on a dating site, I wouldn't choose a picture from recently. I'm fat (There. I said it ). I'd rather choose a pic from where I was 18 and still thin. Makes sense right?

Vanity: Definently my favourite sin.




JumpingKentFlash

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Maybe they thought it was a nice picture that deserved to be an album cover.

Yes. It would have been a nice cover. Had they released an album in 1979

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If I was to put up a pic of myself on a dating site, I wouldn't choose a picture from recently. I'm fat (There. I said it ). I'd rather choose a pic from where I was 18 and still thin. Makes sense right?

Well you did mention earlier in this thread that you felt like Buddha, so fair enough...

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Well you did mention earlier in this thread that you felt like Buddha, so fair enough...

Will you just for once not remember every little thing?

JumpingKentFlash

From Aintitcool:

SHINE A LIGHT
Director: Martian Scorsese
Starring: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Ronnie Wood, Charlie Watts, and Martian Scorsese
With special appearances by: Bill Clinton, Buddy Guy, Jack White, and Christina Aguilera
Release dates: USA April 4th, UK April 11th

Hi Guys,

Mastidon here just having returned from my southern migration to Antarctica. If you are curious what I was up to, you can check out some of my videos here (Click Here). Anyway, I am now back in the northern hemisphere to bring you all of the scopes from the Berlinale Festival.

For the first time in the 58 year history of the Berlin Film Festival, a non-fiction film opened it. With SHINE A LIGHT, Scorsese marks his return to concert film since the filming of THE LAST WALTZ just over 30 years ago. In case you live on a different planet (or just don't like Rock), THE LAST WALTZ changed everything about how concert movies are made. Using normal cinema techniques with multiple cameras to film and with no crazy special effects of color or mirroring, it defined modern music cinema reflected in pretty much every concert film since then. In short, almost every critic out there calls it the best concert movie ever made or at least the best Rock film. So the question stands, does SHINE A LIGHT surpass it to become the new king of music cinema? Sadly, no. And I will tell you why in just a minute...

But first, some background on my history with The Rolling Stones so you know I have a little idea as to what I'm talking about - but just a little. The first time I saw Mick and the boys was while I was in college in 1989. They came to Atlanta and played Georgia Tech. As a student there, I was sold a ticket in the next to last row on the floor. I used all of my powers of social engineering and ended up second row center right in front of Mick. The second time I saw them was at the Georgia Dome from a stadium seat on the side. Most disappointing and vowed I would never see them live again. Like all good promises, I broke it last year to take a buddy of mine to see them. He qualifies as the world's biggest Stones fan having got to hang out and party with them for several months while they toured Europe in the mid 80s. I owed him a big favor so I bought us front row stage left tickets on EBay. 18 years after I saw them the first time, how good could they have been? They are old right? Keith having fallen out of a palm tree and looking even closer to death than usual. Was this just another concert to ask for more cash for some of the richest guys on the planet? Well, I was blown away. BY FAR, the best Rolling Stones concert I saw. And this was the basis for SHINE A LIGHT.

SHINE A LIGHT was filmed at New York City's Beacon Theater on November 1st, 2006. A far cry away from the giant stadiums they usually play. A very intimate setting with none of the giant props. Just pure Rock & Roll. SHINE A LIGHT markets itself as a film featuring lots of interviews, new and old intermixed with the concert footage. That my friends is bad marketing. Its anything but that. Interviews make up at most 10% of the film. Don't be fooled, this is a Rolling Stones concert. There is no new great insight into the band and how they work and play together. Just plane and simple raw music - an all-out typical blood sweat and tears performance. With that I give you the set list (what I can remember from it anyway)....

**** Its a surprise and I won't spoil it as it is the basis for the first 10 minutes of the film

Shattered
She Was Hot
Loving Cup (with Jack White)
As Tears Go By
Some Girls
(Just My) Imagination
Far Away Eyes
Champagne & Reefer (with Buddy Guy)
You Got The Silver (performed by Keith)
Connection (performed by Keith intermixed with interviews)
Sympathy For The Devil
Live With Me (with Christina Aguilera)
Start Me Up (Forever a Windows '95 ad in my mind - damn you Bill Gates)
Brown Sugar (encore)
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (encore)

So why does it not surpass THE LAST WALTZ? From the opening line of "This film should be played loud!", the tone was set. I missed that line here and wish this one opened with the same. This movie is meant to be played LOUD. I was hoping that SHINE A LIGHT took the experience closer to what its like to actually be at a Stones concert. Marty had 16 cameras to choose from this time where in THE LAST WALTZ, he had only 7 and some of them didn't work for part of the time. The end result is I lost the feeling of being at the show as opposed to watching an MTV video with lots of cuts and camera angels. THE LAST WALTZ was brilliant in the way it made you feel like you were there. I just didn't get that here. And I certainly didn't feel the music. Any cinema that shows this needs a good sound system with appropriate base. The other problem was quite frankly the guest stars were good but not on par. Buddy Guy is amazing but Muddy Waters was even more so. Jack White was also great but compared to Eric Clapton or Dylan, just not in the same league. And last but not least was Christina Aguilera who certainly is no Joni Mitchell. She seemed like she was there for the sole purpose of Mick to feel her up. The rest of the band seemed like they didn't want to have anything to do with her. One of the amazing things about the THE LAST WALTZ was that it featured every popular type of music at the time and offered something for everyone. This film simply does not. Its designed for Stones fans.

What's good about SHINE A LIGHT is for anybody who has ever wanted to see the Rolling Stones live but could never afford to do so now gets to see just how amazing these guys are with no props, no sound editing, just performing. The other amazing thing about it is that when 30 years from now when they finally stop touring, there will be a visual record of how great these guys were years after anybody thought they could do it. SHINE A LIGHT will also hold up as a record of how strong they really were and how much energy and work Jagger puts into each and every show.

If you are a Stones fan, this movie earned its 5 stars from its opening number. Its an absolute must see. If you are a casual fan, its a 3 1/2 star event. If you just don't like them or are indifferent towards them, stay far, far away. Personally, I love the Rolling Stones and for me I can't wait to see it again. I heard it will be out on IMAX so I can only hope the IMAX gods bring it to my area. One final note, thanks to Harry I was able to have full press credentials for the festival. This allowed me into the press conference where the whole band and Marty attended. I was even lucky enough to ask a question. I don't have time to transcribe it now but will get it up for you after the festival. Its very entertaining. I have many more surprises for you from the festival including the directorial debut by the queen of pop.

Ciao from Berlin,

-Mastidon

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Who is Pjotr?

sorry, I misspelled
it is of course PiotrRSpl.

we also met Neil (LatvianInExile) and Susanne (hope I got that right - yikes)
cheers

I don't mind waiting patiently to see the film in the cinema and to get the DVD.
The thing I'm so pleased to see in this thread is the piccies of Keith looking in good shape, rested and refreshed.
And I agree with a earlier poster who commented that they look ready to work.
Bring on the next job !

My two pennies worth - first, they all looked great, especially Keith, IMHO. That is a Good Move to leave his hair be - he wears the grey VERY well! And unless he was cleverly hiding it, I'd say he's lost quite a bit of that creeping paunch... Charlie, as ever, was looking extremely dapper and dressed to perfection. Ronnie was the best-dressed man in another sense and Mick - well, he was just being Mick.

This DVD is going to be a must for any Stones' fan - the concert footage is unlike any other and overall there are so many things to savour and enjoy. So the rewind/pause button will come in very handy - as in the several occasions when we were all laughing so hard that we no doubt missed hearing some other gems of hilarity and irreverence. And there are plenty of those. Except for maybe one or two, the clips from the past won't be anything new to most diehard fans, but I think they are well chosen and put together.

Number 1 highlight for me was Champagne and Reefer. You look and listen to those guitars and you think it can't get any better and then Buddy Guy starts singing. Absolutely gobsmacking. Other particular highlights for me were She Was Hot and Faraway Eyes. And it's brilliant for all those close-ups and facial expressions. What pleased me least was the excessive focus on Mick - though no doubt he's quite pleased :-) Keith came next, of course, but Ronnie didn't get that much of a look-in by comparison and Charlie barely anything at all (though one sequence of him in particular is priceless). With all those cameras they had in there, surely it could have been much more evenly balanced out.

It wasn't meant to be documenting the history of the Rolling Stones so I personally don't go with the argument about the omission of Bill and MT (though Brian appeared in one concert clip and Bill was in one of the photo clips).

It's a minor point now in the scheme of things, but I was not impressed by the hired audience - there was no variation in age and there were were about 10 females to every male, so it looked pretty false. And until much nearer the end, they just looked as if they were going through the motions of doing as they had been told - i.e., wave your arms in the air and clap. It seemed a bit obvious that most of them knew only the warhorses and nothing else. But probably the average person watching the film wouldn't notice any of these things.

It's hard to imagine watching the film through the eyes of a casual or non-fan, but I don't think anyone could fail to appreciate the humour and also the energy and joy in the music and performance, which really comes across quite spectacularly. But a lady (non-fan) on security duty in Berlin airport this morning told me she had really enjoyed it, which is a good sign. I don't know what proportion of the audience at last night's screening were fans, but it got a very big (and deserved) round of applause and cheers at the end.

thanks Beast, for the review.
pleased you enjoyed Berlin.

Review & video from the Austrian daily newspaper Der Standard.
[derstandard.at]


Belgrade-Bucharest-Budapest-Brno

open-g commented that the sound was sometimes strange. That´s surprising, considering the fantastic audio on The Last Waltz. Maybe it sounds best on a two-speaker system where you get the guitars right in your face.

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open-g commented that the sound was sometimes strange. That´s surprising, considering the fantastic audio on The Last Waltz.
Maybe it sounds best on a two-speaker system where you get the guitars right in your face.

I don't know if one can trust the sound system of the Zoo-Palast and I read that Keith checked out how it sounded at the premiere - maybe he would have stepped up at the Zoo palast.
The trailer sounds brilliant on my plain 2.1 stereo system - I don't really care for that 7.1 suround mumbo. too much of a whirlwind distraction.
I'm gettin' ready for SAL at a different cinema - lets see if they can make it sound right.

Thank you sooooooo much, Beast.

Hey open-g - it was my pleasure! Great to meet you and thanks for guiding us round Berlin. Enjoy your second viewing of the film and let us know how the sound at Urania compares.

No ADTL?

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i guess i ended up on the cutting room floor - they filmed me dancing for a few minutes during the 2nd show. it's probably for the best...

Agreed.


juskiddin!

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i guess i ended up on the cutting room floor - they filmed me dancing for a few minutes during the 2nd show. it's probably for the best...

but, I'll meet u down on the cutting room floor

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Somebody needs to tell Ronnie to hire a new stylist...

"Somebody needs to tell Ronnie to hire a new stylist..."

Eh? Ronnie looks dead cool.....

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"Somebody needs to tell Ronnie to hire a new stylist..."

Eh? Ronnie looks dead cool.....

yes- he looks well
hair could do with a trim, though.

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"Somebody needs to tell Ronnie to hire a new stylist..."

Eh? Ronnie looks dead cool.....

Agree. His wig sits perfect!

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Agree. His wig sits perfect!

its sitting like a hat

after seeing all these pictures, one questions jumps out at me:

How tall(short) is Martin Scorcese?

The tallest Stone is no more than 5'9", right? Scorcese must be officialy a "little person!" He can't be more than 5'2"

ok you can all go back to discussing the movie, now...

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after seeing all these pictures, one questions jumps out at me:

How tall(short) is Martin Scorcese?

The tallest Stone is no more than 5'9", right? Scorcese must be officialy a "little person!" He can't be more than 5'2"

5'4 per imdb.com

Glad we got Marty's height cleared up! I had no idea he was so tiny! Just goes to show big things can come in little packages!

Thanks everyone for the awesome photos and reviews....

I was hoping for some live concerts in the US to promote the movie but it doesn't appear to date that is in the works - anyone heard anything?????

Keith looks great! I saw the BBC and Sky1 interviews this morning and it was the first thing I noticed. Whatever he's laying off, I hope he stays off it.