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To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: December 16, 2007 16:38

Never heard it before, sounds a bit strange.

Can anybody proof?






Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: December 16, 2007 16:40

Sounds like the Undercover snare drum (All The way Down etc.)


Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: keeffriffhard ()
Date: December 16, 2007 17:06

dynamic sound jamaica nov 1972???

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: December 16, 2007 17:21

don't know, but this guys been known to create fake Exile and SF promos(talented though he is). So its hard to document authenticity.IMHO.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: December 16, 2007 17:44

If it is fake, it's quite a forgery. Sounds just like Mick, and it sounds like a glorious out-take, from the late 70's I would guess.

But the fact that he cuts the song off makes me suspicious.

Drew

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: December 16, 2007 18:08

I'm suspicious as well - and it's brilliantly done, if it's fake.
It it isn't; then it has to be from the 1978 period. Just listen to "Mac"...
Could be 1978 Woodstock rehearsals, could be RCA Studios 78....or could be hoax.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: drewmaster ()
Date: December 16, 2007 18:12

Another thing I just noticed: when he puts the needle on the record, there is absolutely no sound of the stylus making contact with the vinyl (like there normally would be). Then you hear what sounds like the whir of a cassette machine. That sound could be on the record itself, of course, but it adds to my doubts...

Drew



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-16 18:19 by drewmaster.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: audun-eg ()
Date: December 16, 2007 18:17

Definetly sounds like Charlie and Bill. Soundwise, I would guess late sventies - undercover era.

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Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: December 16, 2007 18:56

drewmaster Wrote:
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> Another thing I just noticed: when he puts the
> needle on the record, there is absolutely no sound
> of the stylus making contact with the vinyl (like
> there normally would be). Then you hear what
> sounds like the whir of a cassette machine. That
> sound could be on the record itself, of course,
> but it adds to my doubts...
>
> Drew


Good catch. Sounds like not only the whirring of a tape machine, but also the clicking sound
when the cassette machine is first turned on.

And listen closely to the voice the counting intro, "One, two, three. four..." It doesn't sound like Mick to me.

If it's fake, it's a well done fake.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: rumple21 ()
Date: December 16, 2007 19:40

This turned up on a previous thread a while back

look here

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Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: jagbo ()
Date: December 16, 2007 20:22

Sounds like a combo of @#$%& and Fiji Jim. I took it for granted it's authentic stones, now I need to listen to it 10-12 times, Funny, the only un-stonesy thing to me is the drumming, that's what everyone else thinks is Charlie hands down.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: December 16, 2007 20:55

Meanwhile I think it´s just 95% Stones - so it´s not Stones at all.


Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: December 17, 2007 01:56

>> when he puts the needle on the record ... <<

well ... i am a very literal-minded chick, but don't you think the producer of this clip just chose
a random video to show along with the audio? i mean: i don't think we're supposed to think
that single is the acetate, any more than we're supposed to think the record cover shown is the real one.

as for the "is it the Stones" ... well, it's for sure not an outtake; outtakes are finished tracks
(i told you i'm a literal-minded chick!). until further notice i guess i'll subscribe to
the "either a 78-or-so rehearsal/early take or a well-done fake" hypothesis.

update: in the morning light ... if it were the Stones we wouldn't have so many doubts;
ergo it's a well-done fake.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-17 10:01 by with sssoul.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: December 17, 2007 02:31

sure would be nice to hear the entire thing,huh? I could see why there might be a fear of the track being booted but a little more of it might make it easier to nail down. Theres another track thats been circulating purported to be from the "edward" sessions called "Can't Get No Nookie".(I believe also on youtube) I heard this track for the first time in the mid seventies on a album called "The Masked Mauraders" but I think it could have been faked. So I guess until Mack Jigger comes clean its a mystery!!

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: December 17, 2007 02:32

Don't believe this is the Rolling Stones

Would be interested in what Rockman, Gazza and Erik have to say?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-17 03:07 by stonesrule.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: chavostone ()
Date: December 17, 2007 03:02

maybe yes or maybe not , i havent heard it before

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 17, 2007 03:15

scottkeef Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> sure would be nice to hear the entire thing,huh? I
> could see why there might be a fear of the track
> being booted but a little more of it might make it
> easier to nail down. Theres another track thats
> been circulating purported to be from the "edward"
> sessions called "Can't Get No Nookie".(I believe
> also on youtube) I heard this track for the first
> time in the mid seventies on a album called "The
> Masked Mauraders" but I think it could have been
> faked. So I guess until Mack Jigger comes clean
> its a mystery!!


Masked Marauders WAS a fake. It was put together by the staff at Rolling Stone magazine.

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: scottkeef ()
Date: December 17, 2007 05:02

that would explain that!! of course in those days my brain was probably a little easier to fool!!

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: StonesBlake ()
Date: December 17, 2007 05:45

scottkeef Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> sure would be nice to hear the entire thing,huh? I
> could see why there might be a fear of the track
> being booted but a little more of it might make it
> easier to nail down. Theres another track thats
> been circulating purported to be from the "edward"
> sessions called "Can't Get No Nookie".(I believe
> also on youtube) I heard this track for the first
> time in the mid seventies on a album called "The
> Masked Mauraders" but I think it could have been
> faked. So I guess until Mack Jigger comes clean
> its a mystery!!


Here's 'I Can't Get No Nookie'




Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: ryanpow ()
Date: December 17, 2007 07:43

What ever it is Its cool! it sounds like a fast rock and roll version of "Iko Iko"

Re: To your ears: Is this really a Stones outtake?
Posted by: soundcheck ()
Date: December 17, 2007 07:52

..... aahh, good thing its a fake, cause its a just a routine terrible.......



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