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Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
OILY_DIPSTICK
()
Date: December 11, 2007 13:04
I met him once.
He farted and didn't say 'excuse me'.
What do we make of that?
Oily.
He farted and didn't say 'excuse me'.
What do we make of that?
Oily.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
Adrian-L
()
Date: December 11, 2007 13:05
OILY_DIPSTICK Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I met him once.
> He farted and didn't say 'excuse me'.
> What do we make of that?
>
> Oily.
he likes baked beans washed down with London Pride?
-------------------------------------------------------
> I met him once.
> He farted and didn't say 'excuse me'.
> What do we make of that?
>
> Oily.
he likes baked beans washed down with London Pride?
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
gstone
()
Date: December 11, 2007 13:56
little queenie Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> i've experienced him both nice and not-nice. i
> spent some time with him during some of the summer
> touring but in london, it was a different story. i
> also was at that show in chicago last year and
> know exactly what you mean, rocks off. he gets
> tired early. i think he gets overwhelmed with all
> his friends.
In London he had family committments. His daughter being there etc. I would not use that against him. He had not seen her for a long time and it's a natural thing for a father to want to spend time with his child, rather than with various hangers on. We juat can't expect the Stones and their band members to give first priority to the fans when they're not on stage. They all have families.
I suppose some of us would be in trouble too, if we did not give first priority to our families every now and then. (when the Stones are not touring...)
-------------------------------------------------------
> i've experienced him both nice and not-nice. i
> spent some time with him during some of the summer
> touring but in london, it was a different story. i
> also was at that show in chicago last year and
> know exactly what you mean, rocks off. he gets
> tired early. i think he gets overwhelmed with all
> his friends.
In London he had family committments. His daughter being there etc. I would not use that against him. He had not seen her for a long time and it's a natural thing for a father to want to spend time with his child, rather than with various hangers on. We juat can't expect the Stones and their band members to give first priority to the fans when they're not on stage. They all have families.
I suppose some of us would be in trouble too, if we did not give first priority to our families every now and then. (when the Stones are not touring...)
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
alimente
()
Date: December 11, 2007 15:49
DandelionPowderman Wrote:
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> But
> the question is: Is he audible on stage? Can you
> hear his voice? Can you hear his guitar and
> percussion? IMO, he's pretty buried down in the
> mix.
thats a good point. of course, you can clearly hear Darryl on bass, Chuck on keyboards, Bobby on sax and the other brass players. but concerning backing vocals, the only ones i can make out are Lisa and Bernard. i cant make out Blondies voice in the mix. his percussion is barely audible (if at all). his guitar is usually unaudible, probably a bit acoustic guitar here and there, but in general one would not take notice even when listening hard. in the end, Blondie is there visually but hes somehow not really audible. so whats his function? is he kind of a safety net just in case one of the main players fails to deliver on certain nights?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-11 15:50 by alimente.
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> But
> the question is: Is he audible on stage? Can you
> hear his voice? Can you hear his guitar and
> percussion? IMO, he's pretty buried down in the
> mix.
thats a good point. of course, you can clearly hear Darryl on bass, Chuck on keyboards, Bobby on sax and the other brass players. but concerning backing vocals, the only ones i can make out are Lisa and Bernard. i cant make out Blondies voice in the mix. his percussion is barely audible (if at all). his guitar is usually unaudible, probably a bit acoustic guitar here and there, but in general one would not take notice even when listening hard. in the end, Blondie is there visually but hes somehow not really audible. so whats his function? is he kind of a safety net just in case one of the main players fails to deliver on certain nights?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-11 15:50 by alimente.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
little queenie
()
Date: December 11, 2007 16:08
gstone Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>> In London he had family committments. His daughter
> being there etc. I would not use that against him.
> He had not seen her for a long time and it's a
> natural thing for a father to want to spend time
> with his child, rather than with various hangers
> on. We juat can't expect the Stones and their band
> members to give first priority to the fans when
> they're not on stage. They all have families.
> I suppose some of us would be in trouble too, if
> we did not give first priority to our families
> every now and then. (when the Stones are not
> touring...)
i'm not complaining, using anything against him, nor looking for priority. i saw him about plenty in london. his very nice daughter was in rome for the show where he spent time with both she and various "hangers on" at the same time!
-------------------------------------------------------
>> In London he had family committments. His daughter
> being there etc. I would not use that against him.
> He had not seen her for a long time and it's a
> natural thing for a father to want to spend time
> with his child, rather than with various hangers
> on. We juat can't expect the Stones and their band
> members to give first priority to the fans when
> they're not on stage. They all have families.
> I suppose some of us would be in trouble too, if
> we did not give first priority to our families
> every now and then. (when the Stones are not
> touring...)
i'm not complaining, using anything against him, nor looking for priority. i saw him about plenty in london. his very nice daughter was in rome for the show where he spent time with both she and various "hangers on" at the same time!
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
rooster
()
Date: December 11, 2007 17:34
I like the backing band...they are very good and nice and sweet!Daryl s surname is mr Jones!! a cat from Chicago!! who is now playing in the rolling stones!! a dream come true! he also played with Miles Davis...Charlie choosed him...and he is a cool cat....Lisa is hot!...they are all very nice....but that said...i would like a back to the bones Stones....and if they do and its not as good as it was in the past...and if one can hear and see this...its real...and losing...and R&R!! With mr Jones! ...Bill left us!!
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
rooster
()
Date: December 11, 2007 17:55
They wanna talk to me!! Im nice!
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
rooster
()
Date: December 11, 2007 18:33
'''Mac'' is the point!!
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
buffalo7478
()
Date: December 11, 2007 20:32
I am sure Blondie's a nice guy, with some talent (though I always hated Sail On).
I just think the Stones sound much better with a leaner sound: 2 guitars (hopefully both playing, not posing), bass, drums, vocals and piano/organ.
Lean and mean, and probably much cleaner sound, live.
I just think the Stones sound much better with a leaner sound: 2 guitars (hopefully both playing, not posing), bass, drums, vocals and piano/organ.
Lean and mean, and probably much cleaner sound, live.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
JMARKO
()
Date: December 11, 2007 21:38
I can see why many would overlook Blondie's contributions onstage, as they are often difficult to hear. When you are able to hear him, his guitar parts are outstanding -- I'm speaking mainly of the electric ones. He _made_ Infamy eventually sound great onstage by taking up that groove for Keith and Ronnie to work around.
It's no secret that Keith's guitar playing has become somewhat 'sporadic' at times -- meaning he concentrates on singing -- in most of these instances Blondie is taking up a guitar track to fill in spots. Actually, his acoustic parts seem to do that as well. Although you 'think' you can't hear what he does, he 's actually filling some gaps in arrangements.
Blondie will be the first one to tell you he only does what he is told by 'the big guy.' If you break it down into 'camps,' he's from the Keith camp.
It's my understanding that Keith and Blondie do a lot of playing/recording outside of the Stones. They are musician friends.
So, in a way, if you are coming down on Blondie, you are criticizing Keith.
Theoretcially, _anyone_ could be a backup singer or percussionist or keyboard player for The Stones -- provided they are talented enough. These are the musicians they choose for whatever reasons they have (not the least of which I am _sure_ is that you will accept your role and perform it to the best of your ability. They want a tight run ship without hassles. Notice how Matt Clifford was immediately exiled when he got too big for his britches.)
They don't _need_ five horn players either, but they take those guys with them too.
The Stones arrange their live performances and arrangements as they see fit -- generally to replicate the arrangements on the albums -- and choose the musicians they feel will do the job and work best. And I am sure they appreciate whatever creative input any of them might add. And may often choose to include it. ;-)
As for Blondie performing, though it will never happen in the context of a Stones show, if it ever did I sure would love to hear a Blondie/Keith/Ronnie jam on "Semolina."!! The performance he did with Danko and Butterfield at The Blue Note is incredible!
J
It's no secret that Keith's guitar playing has become somewhat 'sporadic' at times -- meaning he concentrates on singing -- in most of these instances Blondie is taking up a guitar track to fill in spots. Actually, his acoustic parts seem to do that as well. Although you 'think' you can't hear what he does, he 's actually filling some gaps in arrangements.
Blondie will be the first one to tell you he only does what he is told by 'the big guy.' If you break it down into 'camps,' he's from the Keith camp.
It's my understanding that Keith and Blondie do a lot of playing/recording outside of the Stones. They are musician friends.
So, in a way, if you are coming down on Blondie, you are criticizing Keith.
Theoretcially, _anyone_ could be a backup singer or percussionist or keyboard player for The Stones -- provided they are talented enough. These are the musicians they choose for whatever reasons they have (not the least of which I am _sure_ is that you will accept your role and perform it to the best of your ability. They want a tight run ship without hassles. Notice how Matt Clifford was immediately exiled when he got too big for his britches.)
They don't _need_ five horn players either, but they take those guys with them too.
The Stones arrange their live performances and arrangements as they see fit -- generally to replicate the arrangements on the albums -- and choose the musicians they feel will do the job and work best. And I am sure they appreciate whatever creative input any of them might add. And may often choose to include it. ;-)
As for Blondie performing, though it will never happen in the context of a Stones show, if it ever did I sure would love to hear a Blondie/Keith/Ronnie jam on "Semolina."!! The performance he did with Danko and Butterfield at The Blue Note is incredible!
J
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
svendborg
()
Date: December 12, 2007 00:40
So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate week...great!!!
Wonder when the horn players is getting that threat :-)
Anyway he's a talented man, some have mentioned what he did with the Beach Boys on Holland...pure magic. Listen to some of his solo recordings...just great.
AND if he's really covering for Keith on guitar, shouldn't we be glad? They might not be able to tour without him.
Wonder when the horn players is getting that threat :-)
Anyway he's a talented man, some have mentioned what he did with the Beach Boys on Holland...pure magic. Listen to some of his solo recordings...just great.
AND if he's really covering for Keith on guitar, shouldn't we be glad? They might not be able to tour without him.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
buffalo7478
()
Date: December 12, 2007 02:21
JMARKO:
If criticizing Blondie is criticizing Keith, then so be it. If Keith and Ronnie play as they are capable of (and lately Ronnie has been from all reports), then the Stones are an amazing live band.
When Keith is doing more posing than playing, missing riffs and just not with it, the Stones can be downright Pitiful. Needing Blondie to help that is kind of sad.
Go back to the basics, boys.
If criticizing Blondie is criticizing Keith, then so be it. If Keith and Ronnie play as they are capable of (and lately Ronnie has been from all reports), then the Stones are an amazing live band.
When Keith is doing more posing than playing, missing riffs and just not with it, the Stones can be downright Pitiful. Needing Blondie to help that is kind of sad.
Go back to the basics, boys.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
melillo
()
Date: December 12, 2007 02:46
yeah were giving chuck a break this week
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
Beelyboy
()
Date: December 12, 2007 03:47
svendborg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> week...great!!!
> Wonder when the horn players is getting that
> threat :-)
> Anyway he's a talented man, some have mentioned
> what he did with the Beach Boys on Holland...pure
> magic. Listen to some of his solo
> recordings...just great.
> AND if he's really covering for Keith on guitar,
> shouldn't we be glad? They might not be able to
> tour without him.
there's been a lot of gracious and honest recognition of blondie's talents this thread; more gracious responses than you've deserved actually after casually dissing and dismissing a dylan performance you have never even heard on another thread.
...and very few hateful or ridiculing posts if you look at the 3 pages. People often talk approvingly, even very affectionately of him on this forum...but fans like you make that very hard.
...and a lot of fans prefer things more stripped. and a lot of fans can't hear what he's doing. and a lot of fans could care less. and a lot of fans like him and think he's real nice and are excited to meet him..and some of them are pretty pathetic syncophants trying to get close to someone who's close to someone else.
anyway, what do you want?...his face on mt. rushmore?
he's has been treated with a good amount of affection and respect on this thread (and others) but you have to go all the way to making him the lynchpin and the very singular reason they are still a working rock band!? which is, charitably speaking, really nuts.
"They might not be able to tour without him"!!???
when the truth is, even tho talented and connected...he could be immediately replaced by any number of players in that spot. like immediately.
Did you ever stop to consider a statement like "They might not be able to tour without him" is ridiculous and contemptuous. He's a relatively insignificant when you think of their history and power, even nowadays...
BLONDIE SUNG LOVELY VOKES ON LATTER DAY BEACH BOYS ALBUM. HE DID A DAMN GOOD JOB. HE MAKES INDIE ALBUMS THAT SOME FANS REALLY LOVE....ok? that's been repeated on this forum a thousand times.
what you are essentially saying has an offensive air itself, tho i don't think you intend that. not sure tho.
and i will dismiss your relevance and input here as casually as you dismiss dylan. granted dylan's no blondie.
you're positing the theory that without chaplin, the STones are nothing. Literally. They are not there.
because they couldn't work in concert without him, which is, again charitably speaking, freaking insane, never mind disrespectful.
He is the reason they can crawl out of their wheel chairs and limp over to their instruments to make an otherwise horrible noise that Blondie has to save us from...thanks for the input. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
They might not be able to tour without him? ???? and you're serious?
imo the reality of the situation is like this: any one of the bg players could be replaced mid tour ON THE DAY OF A SHOW, and some wouldn't even need to be replaced with Anyone...
entwhistle (r.i.p. dear john) died the NIGHT BEFORE a tour and The Who didn't skip a beat or a cancel the tour...i don't think they even cancelled one gig!absolute true virtuoso genius on bass and a big part of the vocal sound too.
replaced overnight. i mean he'll never be replaced as a unique spirit and talent, but you know what i mean...
sorry, show cancelled blondie has a cold. right, like that's EVER gonna happen.
i think you're overdoing it a bit, which is exactly the kind of thing that draws contempt from some fans about aspects of the backing crew, and it tends to make your advocacy less than inspiring. Believe me, chaplin dosen't need fans that think he's some magical mixture of mick and keith when he's an asterisk at best.
__________________
oh boy, speaking of contemptuous "HATE WEEK" stuff you are speaking of; then there's this from you:
Re: Bob Dylan covering "Brown Sugar"
Posted by: Beelyboy (IP Logged)
Date: December 12, 2007 04:08
svendborg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch
wow svendborg you're so overtly and vocally offended by any mention of Blondie at all that isn't sycophantic, but it's okay to diss Dylan and Charlie Sexton on a cut you've never even heard. interesting.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
now if someone writes about chaplins work with the stones in exact same quote from you: "Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch "
then you'd be upset and lecturing others about rock and roll history.
the pre blondie beach boys covered dylan btw.
svendborg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> week...great!!!
so this is the bob dylan and charlie sexton hate week???...great!?
why don't the stones feature blondie in a duet or as a guest performer or cover one of his songs like they've done with dylan? maybe you should be complaining to them...why don't you complain to the stones? i'm sure people here could give you addresses and phone numbers of the stones management.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-12 15:06 by Beelyboy.
-------------------------------------------------------
> So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> week...great!!!
> Wonder when the horn players is getting that
> threat :-)
> Anyway he's a talented man, some have mentioned
> what he did with the Beach Boys on Holland...pure
> magic. Listen to some of his solo
> recordings...just great.
> AND if he's really covering for Keith on guitar,
> shouldn't we be glad? They might not be able to
> tour without him.
there's been a lot of gracious and honest recognition of blondie's talents this thread; more gracious responses than you've deserved actually after casually dissing and dismissing a dylan performance you have never even heard on another thread.
...and very few hateful or ridiculing posts if you look at the 3 pages. People often talk approvingly, even very affectionately of him on this forum...but fans like you make that very hard.
...and a lot of fans prefer things more stripped. and a lot of fans can't hear what he's doing. and a lot of fans could care less. and a lot of fans like him and think he's real nice and are excited to meet him..and some of them are pretty pathetic syncophants trying to get close to someone who's close to someone else.
anyway, what do you want?...his face on mt. rushmore?
he's has been treated with a good amount of affection and respect on this thread (and others) but you have to go all the way to making him the lynchpin and the very singular reason they are still a working rock band!? which is, charitably speaking, really nuts.
"They might not be able to tour without him"!!???
when the truth is, even tho talented and connected...he could be immediately replaced by any number of players in that spot. like immediately.
Did you ever stop to consider a statement like "They might not be able to tour without him" is ridiculous and contemptuous. He's a relatively insignificant when you think of their history and power, even nowadays...
BLONDIE SUNG LOVELY VOKES ON LATTER DAY BEACH BOYS ALBUM. HE DID A DAMN GOOD JOB. HE MAKES INDIE ALBUMS THAT SOME FANS REALLY LOVE....ok? that's been repeated on this forum a thousand times.
what you are essentially saying has an offensive air itself, tho i don't think you intend that. not sure tho.
and i will dismiss your relevance and input here as casually as you dismiss dylan. granted dylan's no blondie.
you're positing the theory that without chaplin, the STones are nothing. Literally. They are not there.
because they couldn't work in concert without him, which is, again charitably speaking, freaking insane, never mind disrespectful.
He is the reason they can crawl out of their wheel chairs and limp over to their instruments to make an otherwise horrible noise that Blondie has to save us from...thanks for the input. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
They might not be able to tour without him? ???? and you're serious?
imo the reality of the situation is like this: any one of the bg players could be replaced mid tour ON THE DAY OF A SHOW, and some wouldn't even need to be replaced with Anyone...
entwhistle (r.i.p. dear john) died the NIGHT BEFORE a tour and The Who didn't skip a beat or a cancel the tour...i don't think they even cancelled one gig!absolute true virtuoso genius on bass and a big part of the vocal sound too.
replaced overnight. i mean he'll never be replaced as a unique spirit and talent, but you know what i mean...
sorry, show cancelled blondie has a cold. right, like that's EVER gonna happen.
i think you're overdoing it a bit, which is exactly the kind of thing that draws contempt from some fans about aspects of the backing crew, and it tends to make your advocacy less than inspiring. Believe me, chaplin dosen't need fans that think he's some magical mixture of mick and keith when he's an asterisk at best.
__________________
oh boy, speaking of contemptuous "HATE WEEK" stuff you are speaking of; then there's this from you:
Re: Bob Dylan covering "Brown Sugar"
Posted by: Beelyboy (IP Logged)
Date: December 12, 2007 04:08
svendborg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch
wow svendborg you're so overtly and vocally offended by any mention of Blondie at all that isn't sycophantic, but it's okay to diss Dylan and Charlie Sexton on a cut you've never even heard. interesting.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
now if someone writes about chaplins work with the stones in exact same quote from you: "Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch "
then you'd be upset and lecturing others about rock and roll history.
the pre blondie beach boys covered dylan btw.
svendborg Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> week...great!!!
so this is the bob dylan and charlie sexton hate week???...great!?
why don't the stones feature blondie in a duet or as a guest performer or cover one of his songs like they've done with dylan? maybe you should be complaining to them...why don't you complain to the stones? i'm sure people here could give you addresses and phone numbers of the stones management.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-12 15:06 by Beelyboy.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
svendborg
()
Date: December 13, 2007 02:14
Beelyboy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> svendborg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> > week...great!!!
> > Wonder when the horn players is getting that
> > threat :-)
> > Anyway he's a talented man, some have mentioned
> > what he did with the Beach Boys on
> Holland...pure
> > magic. Listen to some of his solo
> > recordings...just great.
> > AND if he's really covering for Keith on
> guitar,
> > shouldn't we be glad? They might not be able to
> > tour without him.
>
> there's been a lot of gracious and honest
> recognition of blondie's talents this thread; more
> gracious responses than you've deserved actually
> after casually dissing and dismissing a dylan
> performance you have never even heard on another
> thread.
>
> ...and very few hateful or ridiculing posts if you
> look at the 3 pages. People often talk
> approvingly, even very affectionately of him on
> this forum...but fans like you make that very
> hard.
>
> ...and a lot of fans prefer things more stripped.
> and a lot of fans can't hear what he's doing. and
> a lot of fans could care less. and a lot of fans
> like him and think he's real nice and are excited
> to meet him..and some of them are pretty pathetic
> syncophants trying to get close to someone who's
> close to someone else.
>
> anyway, what do you want?...his face on mt.
> rushmore?
> he's has been treated with a good amount of
> affection and respect on this thread (and others)
> but you have to go all the way to making him the
> lynchpin and the very singular reason they are
> still a working rock band!? which is, charitably
> speaking, really nuts.
>
> "They might not be able to tour without him"!!???
>
> when the truth is, even tho talented and
> connected...he could be immediately replaced by
> any number of players in that spot. like
> immediately.
>
> Did you ever stop to consider a statement like
> "They might not be able to tour without him" is
> ridiculous and contemptuous. He's a relatively
> insignificant when you think of their history and
> power, even nowadays...
>
> BLONDIE SUNG LOVELY VOKES ON LATTER DAY BEACH BOYS
> ALBUM. HE DID A DAMN GOOD JOB. HE MAKES INDIE
> ALBUMS THAT SOME FANS REALLY LOVE....ok? that's
> been repeated on this forum a thousand times.
>
> what you are essentially saying has an offensive
> air itself, tho i don't think you intend that. not
> sure tho.
> and i will dismiss your relevance and input here
> as casually as you dismiss dylan. granted dylan's
> no blondie.
>
> you're positing the theory that without chaplin,
> the STones are nothing. Literally. They are not
> there.
> because they couldn't work in concert without him,
> which is, again charitably speaking, freaking
> insane, never mind disrespectful.
>
> He is the reason they can crawl out of their wheel
> chairs and limp over to their instruments to make
> an otherwise horrible noise that Blondie has to
> save us from...thanks for the input.
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> zzzzzzzzzz
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>
> They might not be able to tour without him? ????
> and you're serious?
> imo the reality of the situation is like this: any
> one of the bg players could be replaced mid tour
> ON THE DAY OF A SHOW, and some wouldn't even need
> to be replaced with Anyone...
>
> entwhistle (r.i.p. dear john) died the NIGHT
> BEFORE a tour and The Who didn't skip a beat or a
> cancel the tour...i don't think they even
> cancelled one gig!absolute true virtuoso genius on
> bass and a big part of the vocal sound too.
> replaced overnight. i mean he'll never be replaced
> as a unique spirit and talent, but you know what i
> mean...
>
> sorry, show cancelled blondie has a cold. right,
> like that's EVER gonna happen.
> i think you're overdoing it a bit, which is
> exactly the kind of thing that draws contempt from
> some fans about aspects of the backing crew, and
> it tends to make your advocacy less than
> inspiring. Believe me, chaplin dosen't need fans
> that think he's some magical mixture of mick and
> keith when he's an asterisk at best.
> __________________
>
> oh boy, speaking of contemptuous "HATE WEEK" stuff
> you are speaking of; then there's this from you:
>
> Re: Bob Dylan covering "Brown Sugar"
> Posted by: Beelyboy (IP Logged)
> Date: December 12, 2007 04:08
>
>
> svendborg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch
>
> wow svendborg you're so overtly and vocally
> offended by any mention of Blondie at all that
> isn't sycophantic, but it's okay to diss Dylan and
> Charlie Sexton on a cut you've never even heard.
> interesting.
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> _ _ _ _
>
> now if someone writes about chaplins work with the
> stones in exact same quote from you:
> "Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch "
> then you'd be upset and lecturing others about
> rock and roll history.
> the pre blondie beach boys covered dylan btw.
>
> svendborg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> > week...great!!!
>
> so this is the bob dylan and charlie sexton hate
> week???...great!?
> why don't the stones feature blondie in a duet or
> as a guest performer or cover one of his songs
> like they've done with dylan? maybe you should be
> complaining to them...why don't you complain to
> the stones? i'm sure people here could give you
> addresses and phone numbers of the stones
> management.
Oh jolly dear...I think you should read that I wrote once more :-)
The name of this thread it "Blondie Chaplin - What's the ****'Point?"
Well the point is, as many have pointed out, that he's covering on guitar, when Keith's not able to play. But you're right, they could any number of players standing in for Keith. But what's the point in touring, when the machine in the group can't play the game anymore? I think it's a drag that Keith isn't playing that much anymore...love the guy as much as anyone.
But there's really no reason in slagging Blondie, he does what he's hired to do.
During this past tour we've had the Keith threds, the Ronnie threads, the Liza threads and so on. And now it's time to put down Blondie. Well they're all part of the Stones game these days, and you've got to buy the whole package. They simply are not able to go outhere as a 4 or 5 piece band and deliver, like they use to do.
Still they're doing great most of the time and still are a great rock'n'roll band.
Talking of Dylan as you were...well it's my oppinion that he hasn't really delivered much live for the past 25 years, he dosn't really..sings and behaves badly on stage...still he records great songs now and again. Love the man...just don't love the pay he's performing these days. That's why I can't imagine him snarring through Brown Sugar.
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> svendborg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> > week...great!!!
> > Wonder when the horn players is getting that
> > threat :-)
> > Anyway he's a talented man, some have mentioned
> > what he did with the Beach Boys on
> Holland...pure
> > magic. Listen to some of his solo
> > recordings...just great.
> > AND if he's really covering for Keith on
> guitar,
> > shouldn't we be glad? They might not be able to
> > tour without him.
>
> there's been a lot of gracious and honest
> recognition of blondie's talents this thread; more
> gracious responses than you've deserved actually
> after casually dissing and dismissing a dylan
> performance you have never even heard on another
> thread.
>
> ...and very few hateful or ridiculing posts if you
> look at the 3 pages. People often talk
> approvingly, even very affectionately of him on
> this forum...but fans like you make that very
> hard.
>
> ...and a lot of fans prefer things more stripped.
> and a lot of fans can't hear what he's doing. and
> a lot of fans could care less. and a lot of fans
> like him and think he's real nice and are excited
> to meet him..and some of them are pretty pathetic
> syncophants trying to get close to someone who's
> close to someone else.
>
> anyway, what do you want?...his face on mt.
> rushmore?
> he's has been treated with a good amount of
> affection and respect on this thread (and others)
> but you have to go all the way to making him the
> lynchpin and the very singular reason they are
> still a working rock band!? which is, charitably
> speaking, really nuts.
>
> "They might not be able to tour without him"!!???
>
> when the truth is, even tho talented and
> connected...he could be immediately replaced by
> any number of players in that spot. like
> immediately.
>
> Did you ever stop to consider a statement like
> "They might not be able to tour without him" is
> ridiculous and contemptuous. He's a relatively
> insignificant when you think of their history and
> power, even nowadays...
>
> BLONDIE SUNG LOVELY VOKES ON LATTER DAY BEACH BOYS
> ALBUM. HE DID A DAMN GOOD JOB. HE MAKES INDIE
> ALBUMS THAT SOME FANS REALLY LOVE....ok? that's
> been repeated on this forum a thousand times.
>
> what you are essentially saying has an offensive
> air itself, tho i don't think you intend that. not
> sure tho.
> and i will dismiss your relevance and input here
> as casually as you dismiss dylan. granted dylan's
> no blondie.
>
> you're positing the theory that without chaplin,
> the STones are nothing. Literally. They are not
> there.
> because they couldn't work in concert without him,
> which is, again charitably speaking, freaking
> insane, never mind disrespectful.
>
> He is the reason they can crawl out of their wheel
> chairs and limp over to their instruments to make
> an otherwise horrible noise that Blondie has to
> save us from...thanks for the input.
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> zzzzzzzzzz
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>
> They might not be able to tour without him? ????
> and you're serious?
> imo the reality of the situation is like this: any
> one of the bg players could be replaced mid tour
> ON THE DAY OF A SHOW, and some wouldn't even need
> to be replaced with Anyone...
>
> entwhistle (r.i.p. dear john) died the NIGHT
> BEFORE a tour and The Who didn't skip a beat or a
> cancel the tour...i don't think they even
> cancelled one gig!absolute true virtuoso genius on
> bass and a big part of the vocal sound too.
> replaced overnight. i mean he'll never be replaced
> as a unique spirit and talent, but you know what i
> mean...
>
> sorry, show cancelled blondie has a cold. right,
> like that's EVER gonna happen.
> i think you're overdoing it a bit, which is
> exactly the kind of thing that draws contempt from
> some fans about aspects of the backing crew, and
> it tends to make your advocacy less than
> inspiring. Believe me, chaplin dosen't need fans
> that think he's some magical mixture of mick and
> keith when he's an asterisk at best.
> __________________
>
> oh boy, speaking of contemptuous "HATE WEEK" stuff
> you are speaking of; then there's this from you:
>
> Re: Bob Dylan covering "Brown Sugar"
> Posted by: Beelyboy (IP Logged)
> Date: December 12, 2007 04:08
>
>
> svendborg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch
>
> wow svendborg you're so overtly and vocally
> offended by any mention of Blondie at all that
> isn't sycophantic, but it's okay to diss Dylan and
> Charlie Sexton on a cut you've never even heard.
> interesting.
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> _ _ _ _
>
> now if someone writes about chaplins work with the
> stones in exact same quote from you:
> "Uh...wouldn't like to hear that...ouch "
> then you'd be upset and lecturing others about
> rock and roll history.
> the pre blondie beach boys covered dylan btw.
>
> svendborg Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So this is the Blondie Chaplin hate
> > week...great!!!
>
> so this is the bob dylan and charlie sexton hate
> week???...great!?
> why don't the stones feature blondie in a duet or
> as a guest performer or cover one of his songs
> like they've done with dylan? maybe you should be
> complaining to them...why don't you complain to
> the stones? i'm sure people here could give you
> addresses and phone numbers of the stones
> management.
Oh jolly dear...I think you should read that I wrote once more :-)
The name of this thread it "Blondie Chaplin - What's the ****'Point?"
Well the point is, as many have pointed out, that he's covering on guitar, when Keith's not able to play. But you're right, they could any number of players standing in for Keith. But what's the point in touring, when the machine in the group can't play the game anymore? I think it's a drag that Keith isn't playing that much anymore...love the guy as much as anyone.
But there's really no reason in slagging Blondie, he does what he's hired to do.
During this past tour we've had the Keith threds, the Ronnie threads, the Liza threads and so on. And now it's time to put down Blondie. Well they're all part of the Stones game these days, and you've got to buy the whole package. They simply are not able to go outhere as a 4 or 5 piece band and deliver, like they use to do.
Still they're doing great most of the time and still are a great rock'n'roll band.
Talking of Dylan as you were...well it's my oppinion that he hasn't really delivered much live for the past 25 years, he dosn't really..sings and behaves badly on stage...still he records great songs now and again. Love the man...just don't love the pay he's performing these days. That's why I can't imagine him snarring through Brown Sugar.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
DGA35
()
Date: December 13, 2007 09:58
Blondie actually plays alot of guitar during the Stones concert. When I saw them in Vancouver last year, for the first few songs, he was sitting on the floor behind Chuck playing guitar (not acoustic) out of sight of most of the crowd, although there was a spotlight on him. I'd say he played guitar on over half the songs.
On the Austin DVD, you can hear him playing guitar clearly. His guitar kicks in right after Ronnie plays the opening licks on Under My Thumb. I thought it was originally Keith but then he walks onto the stage a bit later and then starts playing, too. Blondie obviously doesn't join the band on the B stage but he's with Lisa and Bernard on the main stage.
On the Austin DVD, you can hear him playing guitar clearly. His guitar kicks in right after Ronnie plays the opening licks on Under My Thumb. I thought it was originally Keith but then he walks onto the stage a bit later and then starts playing, too. Blondie obviously doesn't join the band on the B stage but he's with Lisa and Bernard on the main stage.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 13, 2007 10:13
<On the Austin DVD, you can hear him playing guitar clearly. His guitar kicks in right after Ronnie plays the opening licks on Under My Thumb.>
I think that's Pierre's overdubs, actually.
I think that's Pierre's overdubs, actually.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
VoodooLounge13
()
Date: December 13, 2007 14:54
I wish his first solo album would be re-released on CD. I'm dying for more Blondie!!
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
RRMan03
()
Date: December 13, 2007 20:05
How easy is this.HE IS A F**king FRIEND OF MICK and KEITH.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
The Stones
()
Date: December 13, 2007 20:32
VoodooLounge13 Wrote:
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I'm dying for more Blondie!!
Agreed. Make Blondie a full member of the Stones and let him single-handedly play the opening riffs of Brown Sugar, JJF and Start Me Up.
Now THAT would be quite interesting.
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I'm dying for more Blondie!!
Agreed. Make Blondie a full member of the Stones and let him single-handedly play the opening riffs of Brown Sugar, JJF and Start Me Up.
Now THAT would be quite interesting.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
1cdog
()
Date: December 14, 2007 14:23
Credit to Keith and Ronnie that they are not afraid to be shown up by a younger great guitar player like Blondie.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
gstone
()
Date: December 14, 2007 14:57
little queenie Wrote:
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> gstone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >> In London he had family committments. His
> daughter
> > being there etc. I would not use that against
> him.
> > He had not seen her for a long time and it's a
> > natural thing for a father to want to spend
> time
> > with his child, rather than with various
> hangers
> > on. We juat can't expect the Stones and their
> band
> > members to give first priority to the fans when
> > they're not on stage. They all have families.
> > I suppose some of us would be in trouble too,
> if
> > we did not give first priority to our families
> > every now and then. (when the Stones are not
> > touring...)
>
> i'm not complaining, using anything against him,
> nor looking for priority. i saw him about plenty
> in london. his very nice daughter was in rome for
> the show where he spent time with both she and
> various "hangers on" at the same time!
so, you think he should have hung out more with hangers on, while his daughter was there? Would have made him a better man? Well - I don't agree. Besides, he had some personal friends there, that flew in from New Nork and Norway. And he spent time with them. They're PERSONAL friends. See, there's a difference between personal friends and hangers on.
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> gstone Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >> In London he had family committments. His
> daughter
> > being there etc. I would not use that against
> him.
> > He had not seen her for a long time and it's a
> > natural thing for a father to want to spend
> time
> > with his child, rather than with various
> hangers
> > on. We juat can't expect the Stones and their
> band
> > members to give first priority to the fans when
> > they're not on stage. They all have families.
> > I suppose some of us would be in trouble too,
> if
> > we did not give first priority to our families
> > every now and then. (when the Stones are not
> > touring...)
>
> i'm not complaining, using anything against him,
> nor looking for priority. i saw him about plenty
> in london. his very nice daughter was in rome for
> the show where he spent time with both she and
> various "hangers on" at the same time!
so, you think he should have hung out more with hangers on, while his daughter was there? Would have made him a better man? Well - I don't agree. Besides, he had some personal friends there, that flew in from New Nork and Norway. And he spent time with them. They're PERSONAL friends. See, there's a difference between personal friends and hangers on.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
gstone
()
Date: December 14, 2007 14:59
1cdog Wrote:
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> Credit to Keith and Ronnie that they are not
> afraid to be shown up by a younger great guitar
> player like Blondie.
He's probably blushing now. The man's almost 57. And it's not like he's trying to take their place! His job is to make the boys sound as good as possible. That's actualluy the job of every backing band and every single backing musician.
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> Credit to Keith and Ronnie that they are not
> afraid to be shown up by a younger great guitar
> player like Blondie.
He's probably blushing now. The man's almost 57. And it's not like he's trying to take their place! His job is to make the boys sound as good as possible. That's actualluy the job of every backing band and every single backing musician.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
ROLLINGSTONE
()
Date: December 14, 2007 15:32
Just a thought: When this thread started I never dreamt it would get this far. 2 maybe 3 posts I was thinking. It's only about a back-up musician I reasoned. As the title said from the word go: What's The ***** Point?
Pass me the next Zeppelin thread please.
"I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon."
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-14 15:34 by ROLLINGSTONE.
Pass me the next Zeppelin thread please.
"I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon."
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-14 15:34 by ROLLINGSTONE.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
aslecs
()
Date: December 14, 2007 16:10
Without him there would be ONE guitar since Keith doesn;t bother to play anymore - just "pose"
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: December 14, 2007 19:15
Don't exagerate !
I do think that Keith enjoys the freedom of not having to fill all the spaces on many numbers.
In a way it lets him work as he often would in the studio. Punctuating a song with accents and little twists that make the groove and add the spice.
Works well for me.
I do think that Keith enjoys the freedom of not having to fill all the spaces on many numbers.
In a way it lets him work as he often would in the studio. Punctuating a song with accents and little twists that make the groove and add the spice.
Works well for me.
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
1cdog
()
Date: December 14, 2007 22:56
gstone Wrote:
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> 1cdog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Credit to Keith and Ronnie that they are not
> > afraid to be shown up by a younger great guitar
> > player like Blondie.
>
>
> He's probably blushing now. The man's almost 57.
> And it's not like he's trying to take their place!
> His job is to make the boys sound as good as
> possible. That's actualluy the job of every
> backing band and every single backing musician.
I wrote that TIC, just pulling everyone's leg a little. Seemed like a little too serious discussion on the topic.
I agree with ROLLINGSTONE, pass me to the next Zeppelin thread please..........
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> 1cdog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Credit to Keith and Ronnie that they are not
> > afraid to be shown up by a younger great guitar
> > player like Blondie.
>
>
> He's probably blushing now. The man's almost 57.
> And it's not like he's trying to take their place!
> His job is to make the boys sound as good as
> possible. That's actualluy the job of every
> backing band and every single backing musician.
I wrote that TIC, just pulling everyone's leg a little. Seemed like a little too serious discussion on the topic.
I agree with ROLLINGSTONE, pass me to the next Zeppelin thread please..........
Re: Blondie Chaplin - What's The ***** Point?
Posted by:
aslecs
()
Date: December 14, 2007 23:20
It "works well for you" because they have a THIRD person playing a guitar. Without that it may NOT work so well for you. Because then you would have ONE guitar.
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