The first one that comes to mind is the magnificent Max Weinberg of the E Street band -- Max is more aggressive, but his snare work reminds me of Charlie. Rock steady, with no "superfluous flummery".

Who else? Anybody?

mick fleetwood he keeps a very steady beat, and his playing it understaded. I remember reading a quoate of his where he says "Some drummers get too greedy" that sounds like charlies philosphy.



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Phil Rudd from AC/DC.

Phil Rudd and Bun E Carlos of Cheap Trick.

Meg White of The White Stripes

Marv Peck

Marv Peck

Y'all remember that rubber legged boy

Steve Jordan

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D J Fotana from Elvis's 1st band.

Max Weinberg has commented in the past that he looks to ringo starr, not charlie watts, as his influence... and it shows in his style of play - he plays like ringo starr, in other words, he sucks!!!

I like Ringo's of the beatles Later stuff. His playing is lovley on "Day in the Life".

i have heard rumors that ringo did not play on many of the later tracks.

Stan Lynch of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Very spare, just a snare, tom and bass drum, a couple of cymbals and a good beat.

jjsteve Wrote:
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> Max Weinberg has commented in the past that he
> looks to ringo starr, not charlie watts, as his
> influence... and it shows in his style of play -
> he plays like ringo starr, in other words, he
> sucks!!!


I've read an interview from him once where he said he was a big fan of Charlie Watts!

Max Weinberg is an amazing drummer. His and Charlie's drumming is very similar. I would also add Larry Muulen Jr. to this list.

Just been listening to Handsome Girl '78 in my deck drinkin with my brother, 11:30 PM EST Belleville Ontario. 16 C or 61 F, nice night for Oct 7th, 2007

Charlie is a great drummer, no other really can do what he does. Those that don't get Charlie think he is a simple drummer.....not at all. He does not use the tom and floor tom often but when he does it's perfect. His timing is like a clock yet he still follows Keith's lead and rides the timing up as Keith dictates. He inspired me to my a kit at 17 years old, I just copied Charlie's style as best I could and am still playing weekly in a garage band at 40.

I alway thought Steve Gorman had the Charlie feel.

Bottom line most great dummers make you thing what a great song...not what a great drummer....it's all about the song.

Absolutly, without question..........Bun E. Carlos Cheap trick

One of the most underated drummers I have ever seen.

Very good topic by the way bp617

>> His timing is like a clock <<

... why don't clocks swing? the world would be a groovier place

Bassplayer:

disagree! Maybe I don't get it, but the main reason I'm not too into springsteen is the dull rythm section. Plain flat.

C

Sir Paul McCartney???

Mick Avory from The Kinks and I suppose Bob Henrit as well.

I thought the Stones considered Mick Avory not good enough ?

sc uk

jjsteve Wrote:
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> Max Weinberg has commented in the past that he
> looks to ringo starr, not charlie watts, as his
> influence... and it shows in his style of play -
> he plays like ringo starr, in other words, he
> sucks!!!


I agree whay would anyone look to Ringo as their influence. It's like idolizing one of wide up monkeys that slap two little cymbles together.

Gotta chime in here. I don't see anybody as a member of the "CW school," just because Charlie is so unique. I wouldn't call him "rock steady," either... Much of his later stuff is shaky, esp. live recordings. Still, I love his playing!

Max W (of E Street Band) is indeed a hard hitter, very steady but rather rigid imo, although he is an essential part of their sound just like Charlie is essential to the Stones' sound... but I don't think he sounds like CW at all.

As for Ringo, he was a great drummer, and to say he wasn't is just not right. Maybe you don't like the Beatles, maybe you don't like his style, but he was great. His rhythm and his fills were nothing short of perfection for the purpose of making those legendary Beatles tunes sound so great. Even the later stuff. Listen to 'The End' of Abbey Road... nothing technically challenging there, but his timing and dynamic in that beautifully simple drum solo really is brilliant, and makes the song. Ringo is one of the best rock drummers ever.

Tate Wrote:
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> Gotta chime in here. I don't see anybody as a
> member of the "CW school," just because Charlie is
> so unique. I wouldn't call him "rock steady,"
> either... Much of his later stuff is shaky, esp.
> live recordings. Still, I love his playing!
>
> Max W (of E Street Band) is indeed a hard hitter,
> very steady but rather rigid imo, although he is
> an essential part of their sound just like Charlie
> is essential to the Stones' sound... but I don't
> think he sounds like CW at all.
>
> As for Ringo, he was a great drummer, and to say
> he wasn't is just not right. Maybe you don't like
> the Beatles, maybe you don't like his style, but
> he was great. His rhythm and his fills were
> nothing short of perfection for the purpose of
> making those legendary Beatles tunes sound so
> great. Even the later stuff. Listen to 'The End'
> of Abbey Road... nothing technically challenging
> there, but his timing and dynamic in that
> beautifully simple drum solo really is brilliant,
> and makes the song. Ringo is one of the best rock
> drummers ever.

the last line has to be some kind of joke. that's like saying The Partridge Family was the best band in the world. You comment is rediculous.

MS, it depends on what your criterion is for "best drummer." If you mean fastest, loudest, etc, then maybe Ringo is not. But if you mean most skilled, best ear, greatest volume control, most appropriate drumming for his group, then Ringo is the man.

Not only that, but he WAS fast... his ride work on much of the early material is VERY fast, and very difficult. But difficulty doesn't dictate skill and musicianship.

John Bonham is my favorite rock drummer not because he was loud and made those great fills, but because he had incredible volume control, and a very musical touch to his playing that helped to make LZ a great band. The best drummer isn't noticed as a drummer... but rather as part of a great band and making a band sound great. Ringo was a great drummer because he was perfect-- perfect for the Beatles. No drummer in r+r has ever impressed me as much as Ringo and Bonham. Not for their speed, or their power, but their musicianship and contribution to their bands' sound. I stand by my words! Most drummers acknowledge Ringo's brilliance with the Beatles. To say my comment is ridiculous is your own opinion, but I suggest you study up on your Beatles, because there is a lot to be learned and admired from Ringo.

I was in the car last night and "Hungry Heart" came on the radio, and it occured to me that on this song at least, Max Weinberg sounds a lot like the drumming you hear on Phil Spector songs that the "LA Wrecking Crew" played on.

To StrayCatUK

its certainly true Mick Avory wasn't quite good enough for the embryonic Stones as well as the early Kinks. They used session drummers quite a bit early on until Mr. Avory settled in. Apparently he had a big problem with stage fright and was very intimidated playing live. That would certainly explain his inability to make the grade with the Stones. As Keith himself noted in an interview around 1980, Mr. Avory did alright for himself later on.

Tate Wrote:
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> MS, it depends on what your criterion is for "best
> drummer." If you mean fastest, loudest, etc, then
> maybe Ringo is not. But if you mean most skilled,
> best ear, greatest volume control, most
> appropriate drumming for his group, then Ringo is
> the man.
>
> Not only that, but he WAS fast... his ride work on
> much of the early material is VERY fast, and very
> difficult. But difficulty doesn't dictate skill
> and musicianship.
>
> John Bonham is my favorite rock drummer not
> because he was loud and made those great fills,
> but because he had incredible volume control, and
> a very musical touch to his playing that helped to
> make LZ a great band. The best drummer isn't
> noticed as a drummer... but rather as part of a
> great band and making a band sound great. Ringo
> was a great drummer because he was perfect--
> perfect for the Beatles. No drummer in r+r has
> ever impressed me as much as Ringo and Bonham.
> Not for their speed, or their power, but their
> musicianship and contribution to their bands'
> sound. I stand by my words! Most drummers
> acknowledge Ringo's brilliance with the Beatles.
> To say my comment is ridiculous is your own
> opinion, but I suggest you study up on your
> Beatles, because there is a lot to be learned and
> admired from Ringo.


still reminds me od a 5 year old banging on coffee cans. crapy sound, crapy playing

jjsteve Wrote:
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> i have heard rumors that ringo did not play on
> many of the later tracks.

Thats right, it was jimmy page !!!! get a grip.

Ringo didnt playe on the first single, replaced by Session drummer ( jim white i think) and Paul did play on some later stuff circa white album. Paul did play drums on his own demos and played everything on Ballad of John & Yoko.

Paul once joked when asked about how good Ringo's drumming was, he replied "ringo isnt even the best drummer in the beatles" but that was more scouse humour than anything else. Ringo's drumming is very much underated, a very different style than Charlies.

My Stones Wrote:
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> Tate Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gotta chime in here. I don't see anybody as a
> > member of the "CW school," just because Charlie
> is
> > so unique. I wouldn't call him "rock steady,"
> > either... Much of his later stuff is shaky,
> esp.
> > live recordings. Still, I love his playing!
> >
> > Max W (of E Street Band) is indeed a hard
> hitter,
> > very steady but rather rigid imo, although he
> is
> > an essential part of their sound just like
> Charlie
> > is essential to the Stones' sound... but I
> don't
> > think he sounds like CW at all.
> >
> > As for Ringo, he was a great drummer, and to
> say
> > he wasn't is just not right. Maybe you don't
> like
> > the Beatles, maybe you don't like his style,
> but
> > he was great. His rhythm and his fills were
> > nothing short of perfection for the purpose of
> > making those legendary Beatles tunes sound so
> > great. Even the later stuff. Listen to 'The
> End'
> > of Abbey Road... nothing technically
> challenging
> > there, but his timing and dynamic in that
> > beautifully simple drum solo really is
> brilliant,
> > and makes the song. Ringo is one of the best
> rock
> > drummers ever.
>
> the last line has to be some kind of joke. that's
> like saying The Partridge Family was the best band
> in the world. You comment is rediculous.


Tell you what's ridiculous. Someone trying to slag Ringo using the word and not knowing how to spell it.

Mr. Stones, we get it, you don't like Ringo and you're certainly entitled to your opinion. I don't much care for Led Zeppelin or the Who, but I acknowledge their places as two of the all time great bands. People's preferences are bound to be different. But to aver that the comment is "rediculous" or that his playing sounded like "monkeys on cymbals" is to betray a complete lack of decorum and sense of history on your part.

I call Charlie 'The Human Metronome'. (Hope I spelled that properly!) I third Bun E. Carlos. I'd also like to add Clem Burke. But I guess his playing is more in the style of Keith Moon. Listen to 'Union City Blues', astounding!