A best of" has to be a best of. You can´t put rarities on there
if people hardly know your hits.

My songlist would be:

Throwaway
God Gave Me Everything
Hang On To Me Tonight
Just Another Night
Don’t Tear Me Up
Hard Woman
Sweet Thing
Old Habits Die Hard
Dancing In The Street
Too Many Cooks
Blind Leading The Blind
Memo From Turner
Lucky In Love
Let’s Work
Let´s Make It Up
State Of Shock
Don’t Call Me Up
Checkin’ Up On My Baby
(You Gotta Walk And) Don’t Look Back
Evening Gown
Wandering Spirit





Let´s Work was a hit, so it has to be on there.
The last time I heard it was...15 years ago, though.

Agree about Rick Rubin, the Stones need some changes and he is the man that can guide them in the right direction... lets start a petition.

About the Jagger cd. I really can't understand why some songs were left off that were singles.. Ruthless People, Say You Will and Hard Women all should be on there, if they want to leave a single off, than Lets Work should be tossed. Mick seemed to be found of Party Doll since he did it live and its a great song, maybe he didn't want too many slow numbers. Charmed Life is embarrassing, if he wanted to add a few treats than why not I'm Ringing or Blue. Or even another Red Devils tune.. Sometimes I think Mick is not the best judge of his own material.

TooTough Wrote:
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Just burnt the "best of" for my car stereo:
the fat ones left out, it´s exactly 79:01 then.
>
> My songlist would be:
>
> Throwaway
> God Gave Me Everything
> Hang On To Me Tonight
> Just Another Night
> Don’t Tear Me Up
> Hard Woman
> Sweet Thing
> Old Habits Die Hard
> Dancing In The Streets
> Too Many Cooks
> Blind Leading The Blind
> Memo From Turner
> Lucky In Love
> Let’s Work
> Let´s Make It Up
> State Of Shock
> Don’t Call Me Up
> Checkin’ Up On My Baby
> (You Gotta Walk And) Don’t Look Back
> Evening Gown
> Wandering Spirit

OK, I'm probably late in reacting to this, but I really like 'Charmed Life'. Am I the only one?
I think it even beats 'Too many cooks'. The problem with too many cooks is that it sounds bootleggy. On a bootleg that's beautiful, but why release it if the sound is not a real upgrade. I had the same thing with the 'New Barbarians' release. Great disc, but the sound quality is inferior. Might as well have the bootleg.
For the rarities I agree. Should've contained a second disc with rarities.
Are the rarities available on iTunes?

I can't believe how many people like "Throwaway." Because of that, I tracked it down and was appalled when I finally heard it... crap!

I feel like the album should be limited to singles or songs that became favorite live numbers... since that really isn't an option with mick who didn't perform most of these live, it seems strange to arbitrarily pick a few album tracks. "Put Me in the Trash" as track 2 is jarring. Or was it a single? Then a few rarities and successful soundtrack things.

Hard Woman is a very good song...but it aint there''right''.



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HelterSkelter, whilst I agree with you that Wandering Spirit is Jagger's best solo album I am not so enthusiastic about Rick Rubin working on a Stones album. The reason is that I think Rubin is best sticking to Metal albums - his work with Johnny Cash, for instance, did not impress me at all - and I fear what he would do with the Stones.
In regard to Rubin and Jagger fighting - that seems to be Rubin's schtick for "getting the best out of an artist". I think it's probably more to do with ego myself but that's just a half-baked theory based on his work with Metallica.
As for other producers - I think Don Was did an excellent job on A Bigger Bang and I would like to see him work with the Stones again. Failing that I would be intrigued to see what Bob Clearmountain would make of the Stones as a producer rather than just a mixer.

I just bought it today, a nice set and the DVD is great too.

From the original tracklist I would replace this:


1. Got Gave Me Everything
2. Ruthless People
3. Just Another Night
4. Don't Tear Me Up
5. Say You Will
6. Sweet Thing
7. Old Habits Die Hard
8. Dancing In The Street
9. Too Many Cooks
10. Memo From Turner
11. Lucky In Love
12. Let's Work
13. Party Doll
14. Hard Woman
15. Checkin' Up On My Baby
16. (You Got To Walk And) Don't Look Back
17. Evening Gown

That's a perfect collection.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-12-31 06:04 by cirrhosis.

Mofur, any statement on this board by anyone about a song/album etc is an opinion. it might be put forcefully but it can never be a fact.

Got it yesterday from play.com £8.95 delivered-not bad!

Some great stuff on there. However, I had never heard Lets Work before and I just watched the video- oh my god! that will give me nightmares!! really bad!

Really like the Peter Tosh number from 1978 and the Mick interview is better than I though it would be (and longer).

Best of Mick Jagger solo's efforts; right here; right now; click.

I don't get what the point was of just releasing one song from the Red Devils sessions. I would have rather had the whole session released instead of this best of compilation.

The original Parts 1 & 2 from 1971....It's a stunner....



ROCKMAN

the rest of the very best (so great ! )
Posted by: Shezeboss (IP Logged)
Date: September 24, 2007 20:58


1 throwaway
2 wandering spirit
3 angel in my heart
4 dancing in the starlight
5 jack the lad
6 kow tow
7 lucky day
8 primitive cool
9 1/2 a loaf
10 hard woman
11 too far gone
12 brand new set of rules
13 visions of paradise
14 let's make it up
15 blind leading the blind (acoustic)
16 party doll
17 blue

Whale Wrote:
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> I think it even beats 'Too many cooks'. The
> problem with too many cooks is that it sounds
> bootleggy. On a bootleg that's beautiful, but why
> release it if the sound is not a real upgrade.


I thinks its a bit misleading. if it sounds 'bootleggy' its because some of the bootlegs versions of Too many Cooks sound very very good. however I think the official version still sounds a bit cleaner, more defined and less compressed than the bootlegs. and the mix is a bit different, obviously a new mix from the original multitrack masters, and its even 24 seconds longer than the bootlegs. but I know what you mean: depending on what bootleg one already owns (there are really great sounding versions of Too many Cooks out there, but also a whole lotta bad sounding ones!!!), compared to the best bootleg versions its not a totally dramatic upgrade. but why should Jagger care? the song is great and it deserves an official release. why should he care if Cooks has already been bootlegged? if you use this criteria then theres not much sense for the Stones to open their vaults because theres pretty much material in great sound quality already out there on bootlegs, live and studio.



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Z.Z.Hill cuts inta Everybody Knows ...Down Home album





ROCKMAN

Ordered the deluxe version with DVD from Music Wow for only 7 pounds (inkl. postage).

Order has dispatched, looking forward to recieving it in a few days!

The collection has its jarring moments - to me "Memo From Turner" is quintessential Stones even if no other Stones appear on the 'Performance' version (Traffic's cool blowing w/ Ry). I hated 'Ruthless People' the single enough for it to be the first Stones related project I didn't buy (unless it came out after the Bowie/'Dancing' travesty, which would make it the second)...I still rather like 'She's The Boss' & prefer the hilarious/funky title track's inclusion to 'Let's Work' (aerobics?) or anything marginally better that I can recall from the second effort. So that leaves the enticing b-side Rockman mentions, 'Blue' (Goddess b-side), & at least one more Red Devils track, if the whole album's not to be issued on its own...Haven't listened to various other b-sides recently...

Played the album a couple of times and i rather enjoy it! Even Let's Work is fun (after a few beers).

Best songs IMHO are Memo From Turner, Don't Tear Me Up and Don't Look Back.

Btw: They should have included this:

HelterSkelter Wrote:
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> I think Rick Rubin has a very strong vision and,
> of course, Jagger has a very strong vision and
> they were just clashing away... The thing is when
> you hear Wandering Spirit and The Red Devils
> sessions you know Rick knows what he's doing. I
> just think he always makes artists sound their
> best. Sometimes one needs some distance from ones
> work, or at least have someone there to tell them
> a song isn't quite there yet, I think Rick does
> that.... Some very big artists are too surrounded
> by very big "Yes" men IMHO......


Rubin will never work with the Stones. Unfortunately. He made it quite obvious in an interview in UNCUT a while back what a nightmare he found it working with Jagger, basically because he was so surrounded by yes-men telling him how wonderful everything he did was that he simply couldnt handle Rubin telling him "I think you can write better than this..".

Add to that the even bigger obstacle that is the Keith factor. Can you imagine HIS reaction to such a hands-on, pushy producer?

Considering the way the two of them didnt gel, its a tribute to both Jagger and Rubin in a way that they did manage to get a good album out of all of that.

I also read the story Glam Descendant refers to about an upcoming Rubin/Dylan album (a dream combination I've wanted for some time) but I then read a day or two later that the rumour was false. I hope thats not the case.

Incidentally, Rubin also recorded some material with Neil Young a few years ago which he rates highly and which is still gathering dust in Shakey's vaults.

cc Wrote:
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> I can't believe how many people like "Throwaway."
> Because of that, I tracked it down and was
> appalled when I finally heard it... crap!
>
> I feel like the album should be limited to singles
> or songs that became favorite live numbers...
> since that really isn't an option with mick who
> didn't perform most of these live, it seems
> strange to arbitrarily pick a few album tracks.
> "Put Me in the Trash" as track 2 is jarring. Or
> was it a single? Then a few rarities and
> successful soundtrack things.


Put Me In the Trash wasnt a single (the 3 singles from WS were Sweet thing, Dont Tear Me Up and Out of Focus)

Its a bit of a missed opportunity selection wise because the vast majority of the previously released songs chosen were tracks that were singles from Mick's solo albums. Theres no need to have a singles collection for an artist who (with a couple of exceptions that are justifiably included) didnt have that much success in that format. Theres some fine stuff across all of Mick's solo albums (as well as some of the non album stuff) but for the most part they werent the singles that were chosen. If people heard the singles and didnt buy the albums because they werent impressed with them, then its surely better to give a good cross section of his solo work with some 'deeper' cuts like "Party Doll" or "too far gone" than trotting out utter garbage like "Lets Work" which wasnt exactly much loved the first time around.



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Jack Joseph Puig might be an interesting producer for Mick and/or The Rolling Stones.

Rubin is a bright and interesting fellow but one should sometimes be leary of anyone who is too eager to tell an artist what to do.

If it works (and it does) then the end justifies the means.

Let's work is definitely the weakest link on the release in my opinin.

Gazza Wrote:
>
> Rubin will never work with the Stones.
> Unfortunately. He made it quite obvious in an
> interview in UNCUT a while back what a nightmare
> he found it working with Jagger, basically because
> he was so surrounded by yes-men telling him how
> wonderful everything he did was that he simply
> couldnt handle Rubin telling him "I think you can
> write better than this..".
>
>

hi, í´m not sure but wasn´t it Keith who said that yes-men thing?
i think in the end it should be the artist who decides what to record and write.
a producer should not tell an artist, that a song, that he writes, is good or bad. He is not the authority to decide that, this is only the musician/artist.
That is only my opinion, of course. An artist should only listen to himself, because, as i said, who could claim himself the authority to decide whats good or not good. Even if fans dont like it, he should go on doing what he wants to do.

I remember Rubin also said, that working with Mick on the Red Devils album was one of the most interesting things he has ever done.

Shezeboss Wrote:
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> the rest of the very best (so great ! )
> Posted by: Shezeboss (IP Logged)
> Date: September 24, 2007 20:58
>
>
> 1 throwaway
> 2 wandering spirit
> 3 angel in my heart
> 4 dancing in the starlight
> 5 jack the lad
> 6 kow tow
> 7 lucky day
> 8 primitive cool
> 9 1/2 a loaf
> 10 hard woman
> 11 too far gone
> 12 brand new set of rules
> 13 visions of paradise
> 14 let's make it up
> 15 blind leading the blind (acoustic)
> 16 party doll
> 17 blue

I miss the live version of''the Wild colonial Boy''on the album

I got it yesterday,and I love it.
Sounds very good in the car,I can't stand Let's Work or Dancing in the Street,but it flowed well in the CD mix.
Of course everyone has a favorite missing,I think he should have put out Ruthless People just because it is hard to find.
For the DVD he should have put all his solo video's on it.

Also I do not see why the majority of this board try to rate it against the Stones'anyway Ronnie is the best Solo Stone,IMHO......

Coming Down Again

Rockman Wrote:
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> Z.Z.Hill cuts inta Everybody Knows ...Down Home
> album
>
> [i9.photobucket.com]
> IMMERBOY%205/ZZHILL.jpg


Man he is ace!! Love ZZhill!!

Yeah Z.Z.Hill the Shade Tree Mechanic.....



ROCKMAN