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Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: jomo297 ()
Date: September 23, 2007 13:55

What the hell is a menthylated sandwich?

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: September 23, 2007 13:59

a] an alternate spelling of "mentholated sandwich"; and
b] the Stones being "Dylanesque"

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: jomo297 ()
Date: September 23, 2007 15:19

So a mentholated sandwich is just some sort of surreal reference?

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: Monkeylad ()
Date: September 23, 2007 15:20

A mentholated sandwich is akin to a Marlboro cigarette on whole wheat bread, or a Kool with a side of mayo.

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: September 23, 2007 15:21

yeah - or a sort of abstract realism, if you can stand an obscure Stones reference :E

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: September 23, 2007 15:22

Vicks vapo-rub on rye

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: Monkeylad ()
Date: September 23, 2007 15:29

Mentholated sandwiches are like Dylan on wry, if you can forgive the pun

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: jomo297 ()
Date: September 23, 2007 15:30

Love it. I thought is was a cultural thing that as a Southern American I didn't get. However, it's in the realm of absract surrealism then I'm aboard. I love it. Thanks for helping to get me on the right plain when I sing along with the song.


What a great song!


I figured now was the time to ask questions that confounded or bothered me over the years.

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: September 23, 2007 16:36

Speed freaks menage a troi.


Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: straycatuk ()
Date: September 23, 2007 17:22

Top of my wish list to hear live.

"The guitar players,they look damaged,they've been outcasts all their lives"......................yes indeed !

sc uk

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: Crackinup ()
Date: September 23, 2007 17:26

What's the last verse about - the grandma's, their pensions,the queen, etc. I assume there was something going on in England at that time that Jagger's commenting about. No shortage of social commentary on Beggar's.

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Date: September 24, 2007 03:20

The entire album along with flowers was the stones attempt to write and or sound like dylan

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: john r ()
Date: September 24, 2007 03:40

Maybe clearly influenced by Bob - who was not? - but hardly "an attempt to write & sound like Dylan" because thematically, what The Stones have to say on BB, is quintessential Stones. And really the tracks clearly most 'influenced' by BD are Jigsaw, and...un...well, "Family" (the outtake) but that has a Burroughsian take on the old Stones theme of exposing dark sid of middle class hypocrisy in "Family"s, & it's far from their best exploration of that theme.
But "Flowers"? Not too much obvious Dylan influence on that on imo...Actually during this period - late '65 to late '66 Bob had become quite influenced by raw bluesey barrelhouse rock 'n' roll (including the Stones, among many) while the Stones were at their least American roots/blues influenced (BtB thru Satanic)...Now one can hear the Byrds on parts of "December's Children" but that's filtered Dylanesque and another topic...

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: September 24, 2007 05:28

Oh, there's 20,000 grandmas
wave their hankies in the air
all burning up their pensions
and shouting, "It's not fair!"

Great sh%t! For 24 year olds!

Top of my to be heard live list, but, for you Tuna fans, "That'll Never Happen No More"

Kick me like you kicked before
I can't even feel the pain no more

"Rocks Off", Exile on Main Street
Rolling Stones, 1972

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: john r ()
Date: September 24, 2007 05:39

I'm sure Mick thinks it has too many words and is "medium to less well known" plus the tempo would mean people might get bored...Hell I'd settle for "Prodigal Son"...I do love the dirty density of Jigsaw Puzzle, all those guitars in the murk, Nicky superlative as usual, Brian's strange choice of mellotron or synth or whatever to thicken it even more...

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: September 24, 2007 14:48

It's a great track sound wise, even though it's done with a fairly small amount of instruments compared to todays overdubbed to hell anthems.

Drums, bass, one acoustic/one electric guitar, piano, mellotron and Mick singing.

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: wee bobby lennox ()
Date: September 24, 2007 15:02

i would love the stones to do jigsaw puzzle just enough times to record a great live version of this song.

they should give it a go, they have nothing to lose.

Re: Jigsaw Puzzle Question
Posted by: Roll73 ()
Date: September 26, 2007 13:40

jomo297 Wrote:
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> So a mentholated sandwich is just some sort of
> surreal reference?


It's 'Methylated' as in Methylated spirit - a cheap form of alcohol used for fuel and also the last refuge of a desparate (and broke) alcoholic. Although most of those would probably not bother with the 2 slices of bread.



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