edited this post out; some of the comments and cheap shots here are just too brutally idiotic and clueless for me, even anonymously, to care to join the discussion. irony is deader than dead apparently. thank you to fellow posters for understanding, in agreement or not. never mind the bollocks is one of the most important and vital rock and roll documents ever; it's a miracle it even got out and around, and i am grateful.

now go on and on about geezers; at least nine of the people in the stones review should be rotten's gardeners and don't amount to jackshit compared to the worst of what jonesy plays on any given night on his radio show.



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I never saw the Sex Pistols as really had no interest in them. My only Pistols story concerns the 'God Save The Queen' single. In 1977 I was working in the record department at Harrods, which at the time was the second largest record outlet in London after HMV Oxford Street. It was also very much the Royal Family's department store of choice and held 3 or 4 Royal warrants back then (all of which it has now lost!).
It was a great year musically with Punk, the Disco scene of Saturday Night Fever and the likes of Abba, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, etc, etc all competing in the charts. When GSTQ was released and entered the charts it arrived in our weekly delivery of chart singles to be sold as usual. It was very quickly banned by the BBC as well as most independant radio stations - it was the Silver Jubilee year after all! Anyway, the single was on the shelves at Harrods for two days before the store manager paid us a visit demanding an explanation as to why we had this 'offensive material' on display and on sale in 'the Queen's favourite shop'! Having saved a copy for myself, the rest were duly sent back to Virgin and no Sex Pistols singles were ever stocked by Harrods after that.

will Al Fayed stock the re-issue?

Interesting story, MOWAT, thanks!

Adrian-L Wrote:
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> will Al Fayed stock the re-issue?


Pogo like an Egyptian! Yeh, probably.

Johnny on top....Photo by Davis



ROCKMAN

Harrods, isn't that where Gilbert & George buy their shits?



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I was 9 years old in 77...remember all those magacines with strange haircuts and scary faces...and the bands!!!! I love their names...Sex Pistols,Clash,Ramones...I even read about a band called The Sex Beetles and I said "WOW!!! What a name!!!",never heard of them again...

NeddieFlanders wrote:
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Not a pUnK rock fan at all.... But it might just be worth it just to see the crowd throw bottles at the pathetic old geezers. pUnK in its purest form.

This pathetic-talk is disgustingly familiar from the Keef-discussion.

Question: Do you automatically get pathetic as you age?

Is a 40-year-old chap (Rotten 1996) more pathetic than a 21 year old?
And is a 51-year-old chap more pathetic than a 40 y o?

I think it is admirable for those (like myself) who care
to get angry and obstinate at the prime of their middle age.

Let the people do what the want!

All you who are scared of The Friggin' Pistols before or now, just
go home and put on a Yes-album or something!

"But it might just be worth it just to see the crowd throw bottles at the pathetic old geezers."


LOL!

We are on a ROLLING STONES forum??? Not quite boy band material eh!

Do you think they might get together again to audition for the next X-Factor?

"Question, do you automatically get pathetic as you age?"

No, the Stones are proof of this they are still relevant and a million miles away from being pathetic old geezers. Although they are aging (like we are all) Keith, Mick, Charlie and Ronnie are still on top of thier game.

The Pistols may have been considered cutting edge by some (not me) in 1977 but they have not stood the test of time. But hey, even Pathetic Old Geezers need money for dental work, false teeth, food etc. etc. Not try to slam anybodys fun.

The Rolling Stones are the World's greatest Rock-n-Roll band.

"the Stones are proof of this they are still relevant"

to what exactly?

"the Stones are proof of this they are still relevant"

to what exactly?

To Millions of fans all across the world.

Some of these comments are so moronic, you have to laugh.
Whatever you think of the Sex Pistols they are equally or possibly even more influential on the whole of modern culture than the Rolling Stones (Vivienne Westwood, Madonna, Visual Arts, marketing, a million punk rock bands etecetc), there are many,many books (also academic works) written about this. In my opinion the Stones are the biggest influence on the Sex Pistols, although they would of course never admit it. Its funny after so many decades there is this spite against the Sex Pistols. That could only happen, because they were so great, otherwise who would care.
The records still bite, "Chuck Berry on speed" as Lydia Lunch once noted.

its good to be anywhere Wrote:
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> "the Stones are proof of this they are still
> relevant"
>
> to what exactly?
>
> To Millions of fans all across the world.

"5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 flies can be wrong... Eat ---- "



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humanriff77 Wrote:
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> Some of these comments are so moronic, you have to
> laugh.
> Whatever you think of the Sex Pistols they are
> equally or possibly even more influential on the
> whole of modern culture than the Rolling Stones
> (Vivienne Westwood, Madonna, Visual Arts,
> marketing, a million punk rock bands etecetc),
> there are many,many books (also academic works)
> written about this. In my opinion the Stones are
> the biggest influence on the Sex Pistols, although
> they would of course never admit it. Its funny
> after so many decades there is this spite against
> the Sex Pistols. That could only happen, because
> they were so great, otherwise who would care.
> The records still bite, "Chuck Berry on speed" as
> Lydia Lunch once noted.

2 comments:

on that 78 radio show in San Fran just before their last show (mentioned earlier by me), Paul or Steve, when asked who they liked growing up said "the Beatles and the Rolling Stones" and that is an exact quote and I have it on tape.

I think the whole punk movement was and consciously intended to be a threat to the rock establishment including the Stones. And they were, to a degree. Some people have never forgiven them for that.

Personally, I like both.

plexi

The attitude and intent, and the wide-ranging way culture changed due to the movement is without question. But I think that the Pistols are basically cr4p, they might have unfurled the flag, but they are cr4p they are when compared with the like of The Fall etc. I know that they probably paved the way for acceptance of such music, but they couldn't cut the mustard themselves.....but that's just my opinion. Holiday In The Sun......cr4p,Pretty Vacant...cr4p.. pandering to the tabloids, same for the Grundy lark...cartoon jokers.

i respectfully disagree, Oily.

Matlock and Joness are more than competent guitarists and
the songs are anthemic, and as raw and powerful today,
as they were 30 years ago.

a second date has been added-
first night has sold out immediately.

Why do you type a "4" when you should be typing the letter A? What is cr4p?

third date addded at Brixton.

3 dates sold out, as off 09.30 am

Baboon Bro wrote:
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"5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 flies can be wrong... Eat ----"

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OUCH! Are we a bitter old Geezer today now? Eat some bran old man. Maybe it will help you but I doubt it....The Stones have been rock legends for 45 years. The Stones have adapted to vast cultural and societal changes unimaginable to lesser bands and are still able to come out on top of thier game. What ever the Pistols had (which wasn't much) back in the day is long gone. For the Pathetic Old Geezers to have to tour again goes against everything punk stood for in '77. Oh well, I guess it is better than them having to sleep on a steam grate or somthing. Enjoy the show and please watch out that a flying bottle (or three) doesn't smack you right upside your head.



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As long as one have sumfin' inside one's head...
Can bring the boy out off da punk but ya cant
bring the punk out off da boy, Skipper.

What ya say about long gone could also be applicated
on the Stones.

Do not fear: it's allowed to like BOTH Pistols
a n d da Stones, man.

its good to be anywhere Wrote:
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> NeddieFlanders wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------- "The show lasted
> about 90 minutes and had all from Bollocks in,
> some single B-sides and a cover version of The
> Monkeys' Stepping Stone. During the secong encore
> (No Fun) Lydon was hit by a bottle and left the
> stage. That was fun!"
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------
>
>
>
> Not a pUnK rock fan at all.... But it might just
> be worth it just to see the crowd throw bottles at
> the pathetic old geezers. pUnK in its purest form.

Silly persons!!

Nothing punk about throwing bottles at all. And no fun either (otherwise the football hooligans should be the funniest bunch alive!) It's just plain stooooopid!!!! (for those looking out for spelling mistakes.........I AM aware that it is spelled "stupid")

And I am sure that the same people would be outraged should anyone throw a bottle at the Stones? They are an easy target out there on the B-stage...AND they are a tad older than the Sex Pistols. How FUNNY would that be????

If The Pistols want to play I say good for them. They made some powerful music that still sounds great to me. I am surprised to hear so many people dismissive of the Pistols and what they meant to the music scene back in the 70's. I still love to play The Pistols, Clash and Ramones. Like Stones music it remains great rock and roll.

M4ybe I ought to give them 4nother go...

I don't know wh4t you me4n 4sshole :-)))

ps l4st comment for p4y p4y