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Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: Bärs ()
Date: August 17, 2007 11:07

Ok, I began this day by listening to She's so Cold for the zillionth time. What I heard was two previously unheard rimshots by Charlie at 2.54 to 2.56. The first one is a "semi-rim shot" and the second a full rim shot, like he does in Bitch when the solo begins (of course he briefly stops hitting the snare in Bitch for a while).

This is exactly what the Stones is all about. New things to discover year after year, day after day.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: loochie ()
Date: August 17, 2007 11:26

hi, not exactly sure what you're talking about (basketball ?? :-) but thanks for reminding me to listen to she's so cold today !!

this was from rome in july:



Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: Bärs ()
Date: August 17, 2007 12:12

"A rimshot is the sound produced by hitting the rim and the head of a drum at once, with a drum stick." (Wikipedia)

The most famous rimshot in Where the boys go is a good example. He makes one exactly after the drum rolls in the solo.

SSC might be one of the best sounding and best recorded Stones songs ever. Surprisingly deep lyrics hidden beneath the actual words.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: August 17, 2007 12:15

What about the rimshots in Time Waits For No One? They're pretty cool.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: marimba ()
Date: August 17, 2007 12:39

Well I don´t know if I actually recognise the rimshots, but I think SSC is brilliant in every way! Especially the lyrics - they are funny, witty and (as you said, Bärs) deep at the same time. Mick´s singing is fantastic! It must be one of the most difficult songs to sing to make it justice - and no one else could do it but Mick! I'm so glad I got to hear it live in Helsinki! :-)

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: nanker phelge ()
Date: August 17, 2007 12:44

That is the beauty of the Stones!!

I just watched the rocking the LA Forum 1975 DVD for the first time. The machine gun type beats Charlie uses in If you Cant Rock Me are awesome!!

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: wesley ()
Date: August 17, 2007 12:49

marimba Wrote:
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> Mick´s singing is fantastic! It must be one of the
> most difficult songs to sing to make it justice -
> and no one else could do it but Mick! I'm so glad
> I got to hear it live in Helsinki! :-)

me too, me too..!! One of the highlights (CYHMK, Sweet W beeing the others)

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: Bärs ()
Date: August 17, 2007 13:24

An analysis:

The song is about man turning away from God. The burning bush is God who shouts out his love to mankind, but man is cold. We human beeings can feel love because God loves us. Turning away from God makes us in that respect unable to love. When eternity approaches we sit there looking back on a meaningless life, and in fact one of the words for hell in the Bible (Gehenna)is the name on the dump outside Jerusalem. On a metaphysical level life without God is worth as much as a dump. On a human level life without love is worth as much as a dump. The song connects these levels with each other just like the Song of Solomon. The message Mick tries to convey is to accept the heavenly love and get laid earthly.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: marimba ()
Date: August 17, 2007 13:32

Bärs Wrote:
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> An analysis:
>
> The song is about man turning away from God. The
> burning bush is God who shouts out his love to
> mankind, but man is cold. We human beeings can
> feel love because God loves us. Turning away from
> God makes us in that respect unable to love. When
> eternity approaches we sit there looking back on a
> meaningless life, and in fact one of the words for
> hell in the Bible (Gehenna)is the name on the dump
> outside Jerusalem. On a metaphysical level life
> without God is worth as much as a dump. On a human
> level life without love is worth as much as a
> dump. The song connects these levels with each
> other just like the Song of Solomon. The message
> Mick tries to convey is to accept the heavenly
> love and get laid earthly.

Impressive analysis!!! Who could argue with that... :-)

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: August 17, 2007 16:02

Until I got to the last line, I was dreadfully afraid Bars was serious.
Now explain "Sparks Will Fly" to us.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-08-17 16:03 by Rocky Dijon.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: geoffc ()
Date: August 17, 2007 17:10

Is there a story about the 'lost' sax solo? I've always thought it sounds as though there was originally a sax solo in the middle, but after it starts, it fades away ... did Keith decide to wipe it and just leave the guitars?

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: mofur ()
Date: August 17, 2007 23:49

My son of 11, yesterday declared "She's So Cold" his favorite number. Who am I to argue? ;-)

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: theimposter ()
Date: August 18, 2007 00:03

Charlie does this a lot, both in live recordings and in the studio. Just one of his little quirks. I always took it as a jazz thing he would throw into songs, it sounds as if he misses the snare when in fact it's deliberate.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: August 18, 2007 01:39

to Silver D.:
You mixed it up!
On "Time waits for no one" are no prominent rimshots! I think what you mean is called sidestick playin.
best . .



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-08-18 01:40 by CousinC.

Re: Rimshots in She's so Cold
Posted by: loochie ()
Date: August 18, 2007 01:50

you guys have seen this, right ? :-)






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