interesting bit about those Replacements lyrics, ohno... I've listened to that song probably 500 times and could never figure out that line. Although I don't know how accurate that version is--I'm pretty sure it's "Box Tops video," for example.

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Yes the area still has youthful vitality, but has changed and been cleaned up a bit.

it's just been swallowed up by the NYU expansion, that's why it still seems youthful. A tourist attraction for newcomers to the city, basically.

The best record shop in NYC is right there too, Rocket Scientist.

Lots of Lou Reed/Velvet Underground history in that part of the city. I think of them, more than I think of the Stones, when I'm in that neighborhood.

Does anyone know why the Stones used the same doorway on St Marks that Led Zep had? Seems unlikely that it was just a coincidence...

I remember when people called it Alphabet City and not the East Village. Gentrification killed the neighborhood.

Living most of my life in NYC....it's a place I don't recognize anymore.

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interesting bit about those Replacements lyrics, ohno... I've listened to that song probably 500 times and could never figure out that line. Although I don't know how accurate that version is--I'm pretty sure it's "Box Tops video," for example.

I've always seen it the way it was written above (I thought it was some kind of poetic license/nonsense type phrase), but "Box Tops video" does make a lot more sense.

Funny..I was on St Marks last night. One of my fav Japanese joints is at 3rd and St Marks, called Yakitori Taisho. Right across from Trash Vaudville. Try the Tuna Tartare.

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I remember when people called it Alphabet City and not the East Village. Gentrification killed the neighborhood.

Yeah... There's also fewer immigrant Eastern European families left who haven't been squeezed out of the neighborhood that they've traditionally shared with hippies and freaks and yuppies over the years. When I lived there I wondered about those immigrant families. (I was a regular at Leshko's and Odessa for years.) Everyone coexisted in that neighborhood, but the Polish and Ukranian folk were the ones who had been there for years and through generations.

Weren't both the terms "Alphabet City" and "East Village" basically nicknames -- as opposed to official Manhattan neighborhoods like "Greenwich Village" or "Upper West Side" or "Murray Hill"? When I came to NYC in 1979, I think the official designation on maps for everything on the east side of Manhattan north of Little Italy and Chinatown up to 14th and east of the Village was just "Lower East Side".

It seemed that the terms "Alphabet City" and "East Village" were the inventions of realtors in the area when rental properties in that area got real hot in the 80's to differentiate these areas from the rest of the Lower East Side. "East Village" had more snob appeal in 80s apartment ads than "Lower East Side" because it borrowed from adjacent Greenwich Village. "Alphabet City" was the realtors' polite term to yuppy-artist pioneers who ventured farther east than First Avenue when the rents began to go up, up, up. When East Village gentrification (the 80's version) spread to Avenue A --- then to Avenues B,C, and D -- it was again in realtors' West-Village-finacial interest to start call everything "East Village".



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My favorite club in St Marks Place way back then:

Electric Circus (nightclub)
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The Electric Circus was a famous American nightclub open between 1967 and September 1971 in downtown Manhattan's East Village at 19-25 St. Marks Place between Second and Third Avenues. With its invitation (from one of its press releases) to "play games, dress as you like, dance, sit, think, tune in and turn on," and its mix of light shows, music, circus performers and experimental theater, the Electric Circus embodied the wild and creative side of 1960s club culture.

Flame throwing jugglers and trapeze artists performed between musical sets, strobe lights flashed over a huge dance floor, and multiple projectors flashed images and footage from home movies. Seating was varied, with sofas provided. The Electric Circus became "New York's ultimate mixed-media pleasure dome, and its hallucinogenic light baths enthralled every sector of New York society." [1] Its hedonistic atmosphere also influenced the later rise of disco culture and discotheques.

Experimental bands such as The Velvet Underground, jam bands such as The Grateful Dead and early composers of electronic music (Terry Riley and Morton Subotnick), played at the Electric Circus. As well, bands played there before they were famous, such as Raven (U.S. band) and "Soft White Underbelly" before it became known as "Blue Öyster Cult."

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

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As a New Yorker I knew the area by reputation, in person from 1991 to present, and had been to the bar where our boyos played.

I even worked as a bartender nearby at a place -- or armpit -- called Downtown Beirut. It was truly a dump!

Yes the area still has youthful vitality, but has changed and been cleaned up a bit.

I used to love the original Village Idiot, next door to Downtown Beirut. It was a GREAT country dive. On eof the bartenders there, Lilliana, saved up her tip money and opened the Coyote Ugly right acxross the street, which was also a great bat until the movie came out and then it became a tourist attraction. Ialso spent many a night listening to some goo dmusic in the St. Marks Bar and Grill (did they actually serve food??) hoping the boys might come back for a visit and play a few tunes in front of their mural...

Well, this is a good reason to re-post these:

Great pix Schillid. Did you take them?

As I recall that video was shot on July 4th 1980 or '81 a rather hot Friday evening because as the NY Post put it the city was empty for the long Holiday weekend.

Great photos



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Great pix Schillid. Did you take them?

Yes...
Look here if you want it.

(The thread that I linked to above is from a few years back... I just looked at the thread now... It looks as if I ignored Rockman's question in the very last post of the thread... which was not the case. I just answered him in a different thread on the same day. I hope that the R-man recalls that too...)



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GREAT PICS!!!!!!!

Great pictures Schillid,one question, someone may know? on the second to last picture the guy talking to the girl in white. He looks a lot like Spanish Tony,
was that guy with the band that day? if you remenber..

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Notice the girls that Bill is eyeing in the last shot. Two of them can be see walking by Mick and the three home boys on the stoop at around 1:30 of the video... The blonde on the left in white and the seated brunette in red.

Of the three, I wonder which chick (or chicks) Bill ended up with after the video shoot.

ps
I recently found the best Youtube posting of "Waiting On A Friend" that I've seen. They've disabled the embedding of the video... but you can watch it by pasting http:REMOVETHIS//www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0NYKWLMgx0 into your browser.

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on the second to last picture the guy talking to the girl in white...was that guy with the band that day? if you remenber..

Three security /bodyguards that day. You can see the three in various shots, including the guy you're asking about. If I remember, one of the three bodyguards (the bald guy) is sitting on a stool next to the door inside the bar as Mick and Keith enter. (This was only 8 or 9 months after John Lennon's murder uptown...)

I have one or two shots that weren't so good & I didn't scan them. In one of those shots, that same guy is looking mean and straight at me through my camera lens with total annoyance and disgust -- at what he must have looked at as a rabid, annoying, star-struck fan with the 35mm FLASH!FLASH!FLASH!FLASH!

Hallo everybody

I search pictures

- from the original Setlist (beacon Theatre, Madison Square Garden
- from Stones advertising on New Yorks building (Time Square, Garden, Beacon, Radio City Music Hall)
- everything from the Stones and New York

thanks

basti



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Beacon Theatre #1, 29-Oct-2006:


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[RandolphMase.Wordpress.com]


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Beacon Theatre #1, 29-Oct-2006:


[ListsOPlenty.com]

Wow - BV played on a lot of songs

New York, Fifth Avenue, 1-May-1975:


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The Stones have played Albany, Syracuse and Buffalo. That's New York to me.

Cool photo, don't recall seeing Stu on the flatbed. Irix, thanks for posting

Yeah. See my pic close to Albert Maysles in the middle beacon picture-no not the guy in the red shirt. Everyone had to sign a waiver. Fun day. Had no ticket but got in by showtime!! Great show no matter what anybody says!!!

Read the book “Can’t Give It Away On Seventh Avenue”...it’s a well written and researched look at the entire history of the Stones and NYC

I found some images on line for the tour announcement mini show at Lincoln Center/Julliard May 10, 2005

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I found some images on line for the tour announcement mini show at Lincoln Center/Julliard May 10, 2005

I was there.
Link please?
thx