brass olive Wrote:
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> Karl - it's very close between the Sydney shows
> and Perth.
> IMO I like the Perth one only because of a wicked
> Bitch & a Taylor-wah wah Gimme Shelter....but they
> are very close.


that's probably my all time favorite version of "Bitch". A real killer.

>
> Overall, the Sydney, Perth & Brussels shows are
> must havs.
>
> I have also been listening to the forgotten (and
> incomplete) Brussels second show!
> IMO the best Taylor-era @#$%& EVER !!!!!
> Jagger & Keith on fire!
>
> I only wish a complete version of this show
> surfaced....there might be a hidden gem in
> there!!!

Yeah for real. I wonder why only these songs surfaced?

i prefer the Australian shows to Brussels too. glad i'm not the only one

with sssoul Wrote:
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> i prefer the Australian shows to Brussels too.
> glad i'm not the only one

Me too

with sssoul Wrote:
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> i prefer the Australian shows to Brussels too.
> glad i'm not the only one


I wouldn't say I prefer one or the other as I love them all, but for the most part, I've always been partial to the lineup the Stones had in '72 and during the '73 Winter tour. I prefer Nicky Hopkins over Billy Preston. I think they sounded more raw and energetic with that particular line up. Love the Brussels recordings and love the '73 European tour, but my favorite lineup has Hopkins and Keys and Price.

Tseverin Wrote:
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> "would love the the dvd of this to surface, it was
> filmed and is in the bbc archives".
> I work at the BBC and regularly check what is in
> the archives. There has never been any footage
> from Brussels '73.



Nobody ever said that any footage from Brussels is in the BBC archives but reportedly one of the Wembley Empire Pool shows was filmed by the BBC, either full-length or a very extensive part of it.
Waht material did they film on back in 1973? Film or magnetic tape? Could it have been erased meanwhile or are the archives complete?

Re Brussels, if the Wembley 73 shows or Welcome To New York or Philly Special or some others would have the sound quality of Brussels, we probably would be praising these others...

And I prefer Midnight Rambler from WTNY or the soundboard from Wembley 73 over the Brussels version (which is a bit too fast).

[There'll be no wedding today...]

I like the Hampton 1981 show...that version of JJFlash will never be topped.
Brussels is a great performance but mostly is great great sound. I liked Leeds..

let it rock!!!!!!!!!!!

Brussels is hard to beat, no doubt about it. Get Your Leeds... is good and nice but I miss some of the edge that you find at Brussels.

Nothing from Mathijs in this thread? In fact he was building a complete website around this show.

Audience tapes: only the first show...Have the other bad sounding tracks from the second as listed in my post with the Nico info.

Thanks,

JR

bassplayer617 Wrote:
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> I still listen to it regularly. For various
> reasons, it will probably never be officially
> released, but after 34 years it's still readily
> available in various incarnations.
>
> As a matter of fact, I have a version of it
> playing right now, a compilation of my own making,
> which slightly alters the setlist order.
>
> We all know the history, so this is to establish
> once and for all if this is the be-all and end-all
> of Stones bootlegs. In other words, if you could
> have just ONE Stones boot, would this be it?

In a word - yes,

>
> If nothing else, it offers perhaps the best-single
> Taylor-era version of "Gimme Shelter" (Wembley)
> ever recorded. It still sends shivers down my
> spine each and every time I hear it.

I think the version of Midnight Rambler on that recording is the greatest performance of any song that they've ever done (well, that I've heard anyway). Even allowing for the fact that unlike most recordings its in brilliant quality and its natural to lean towards that as opposed to an audience recording. THAT middle section where Mick whips the crowd up gives ME shivers every time. Every band member is at their absolute best on this one.



>
> Honestly, I don't know if I could choose between
> this one and the "Handsome Girls" set.
>
> So, here's a classic exercise in rhetoric. Have
> at it, students.

Erik said "Tseverin - have you checked for Empire Pool ?"

This is the only item in the system:
ROLLING STONES BRIT. TOUR: 1ST CONCERT: FANS ANB8423D 07/09/1973 This item is held in LONDON
.....Rolling Stones Rock group for 2 yrs. 1st Concert at Wembley a sell out. ms sign "Rolling Stones" (2')ms queue of fans at South & North entrances to Empire.....

I like Leeds too. That version of "Satisfaction" is very interesting - more like Otis's version.

"No Anchovies, Please"

"Nobody ever said that any footage from Brussels is in the BBC archives but reportedly one of the Wembley Empire Pool shows was filmed by the BBC, either full-length or a very extensive part of it."

Er yes they did, look back at Melillo's first comment on page 1.

"Waht material did they film on back in 1973? Film or magnetic tape? Could it have been erased meanwhile or are the archives complete? - "

The archives are far from complete, in fact, up until about 1975 they are pretty threadbare where music is concerned, so much was erased. They would have almost certainly used film back in '73 so it couldn't have been wiped as such but may have been ditched or stolen but there is no computer entry for it or anything to suggest it was filmed. Some confusion may spring from the OGWT from '74 which featured Streetfighting Man live from Hamburg (I think, off the top of my head) but this has sometimes been circulated as Wembley footage.

best boot from single show, sure it is , now we all have our fav versions off of different boots , i only have 1 favorite version off of Forest National , Brussels & that be " Angie "





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Thanks for info, Tseverin

Tseverin Wrote:
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> "Nobody ever said that any footage from Brussels
> is in the BBC archives but reportedly one of the
> Wembley Empire Pool shows was filmed by the BBC,
> either full-length or a very extensive part of
> it."
>
> Er yes they did, look back at Melillo's first
> comment on page 1.
>
> "Waht material did they film on back in 1973? Film
> or magnetic tape? Could it have been erased
> meanwhile or are the archives complete? - "
>
> The archives are far from complete, in fact, up
> until about 1975 they are pretty threadbare where
> music is concerned, so much was erased. They would
> have almost certainly used film back in '73 so it
> couldn't have been wiped as such but may have been
> ditched or stolen but there is no computer entry
> for it or anything to suggest it was filmed. Some
> confusion may spring from the OGWT from '74 which
> featured Streetfighting Man live from Hamburg (I
> think, off the top of my head) but this has
> sometimes been circulated as Wembley footage.


If its the same clip that was shown on the 1973 OGWT edition that was preceded by an interview with Billy Preston, its from Frankfurt (a clip of this song was also show in a 1985 Whistle Test special on Jagger's first solo album)

chippy Wrote:
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> best boot from single show, sure it is , now we
> all have our fav versions off of different boots ,
> i only have 1 favorite version off of Forest
> National , Brussels & that be " Angie "
>
> Some Brussels footage
>
> [i28.photobucket.com]
> 000707-1.jpg

No, this is not Brussels, this is Rotterdam. Brussels is French speaking.

There's about 15 minutes of video footage from the French documentary Midnight Express, unfortunately the sound is overdubbed. But clearly songs like Gimme Shelter, Happy and Midnight Rambler can be recognised. Striking is that the audience is totally unresponsive. They didn't know that they were witnessing the best ever concert from the best ever band.

Wembley Arena, September 9 was filmed by the BC, but erased in the early 80's as far as is known. The KBFH show recorded both the Brussels and London shows in its entirety, so hopefully Wolfgang will give us the complete Wembley show soon.

Mathijs

...and @#$%& from Brussels #1 !!