It is not the end of the world you know. Keith side and Ronnie side. Seating or not. Same band on stage. May be they have messed up grand way in Rome but still it will be a great show and I am sure everybody will be happy.

Bjornulf

maumau Wrote:
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> looks like not even 30k tickets have been sold
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Cool, this means there is a lot of space for those of us who will be there :-)

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Keep On Rolling

I live in Italy but i don't go in Rome to see the guys.
Why?
It's truly absurd to assist to a concert in FOS from seated to the Olympic Stadium.
The Olympic Stadium in Rome !!! ??? FOS seats!!!??? Oh my god...no thanks
the Italian organization is much ridicule,they do not love music,only the money.
I want to pay Eur.500 in a theatre not Eur.180 for a FOS seats in Olimpic Stadium.
I'm very sorry for this, but is this what i think.



Paris - Lyon - London

phd wrote:

(1) "3 shows in 5 years is not that much."

Yes, but the prices are "too much"! You know, this "3 gigs in 5 years" would not be that much, if we were talking about UK, France or Spain. But, as 1990 tour showed, fanbase in Italy isn't that huge in order to the Stones are charging prices like these, on their third visit in the last 5 years...

Anyway, enjoy the show! I wish i could be there...

Rockingfan Wrote:
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> Why do so many people have always problems with the
> pitch seats. The fact is that there are seats now.
> But why sitting on the seat. Nobody does in Canada
> or the US or UK and nobody did in Frankfurt. Ok
> some sat down for Keiths numbers or some did when
> the stage moved. But what the heck.
> Enjoy the show and take you seat and stand up and
> shout.


Simple - because they only decide to have pitch seating as an excuse to double the prices.

Its got nothing to do with actually sitting on the damned things.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Rockingfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do so many people have always problems with
> the
> > pitch seats. The fact is that there are seats
> now.
> > But why sitting on the seat. Nobody does in
> Canada
> > or the US or UK and nobody did in Frankfurt. Ok
> > some sat down for Keiths numbers or some did
> when
> > the stage moved. But what the heck.
> > Enjoy the show and take you seat and stand up
> and
> > shout.
>
>
> Simple - because they only decide to have pitch
> seating as an excuse to double the prices.
>
> Its got nothing to do with actually sitting on the
> damned things.


in fact i just check ticketone.it and there's still tickets available close to the stage but, guess what, you dont know exactly what section (only row and number of seat) so that, as the seating plan is, you could be front row or just end back 30 meters from the stage....ridicolous

That makes it even worse,maumau. What a shambles.

And yet I am looking forward to the show in Rome

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Keep On Rolling

So you're buying a cat in a bag - as we say in german.

and the bag is torn and frayed
if no good ticket shows up i am going friday night and see what i can find

1 - Select: Product and quantity Product Availability Price Quantity Total
1 Platea Prato DX Num. Intero Tickets not available ONLINE 177,10 € 01234
1 Platea Prato SX Num. Intero Available NOW! 177,10 € 01234 177,10 €
2 Platea Prato DX Num. Intero Available NOW! 142,60 € 01234
2 Platea Prato SX Num. Intero Available NOW! 142,60 € 01234
3 Platea Prato DX Num. Intero Waiting for New Availability 108,10 € 01234
3 Platea Prato SX Num. Intero Waiting for New Availability 108,10 € 01234
Tribuna Monte Mario Num. Intero Available NOW! 108,10 € 01234
Dist. Nord Ovest Non Num. Intero Available NOW! 85,10 € 01234
Dist. Sud Ovest Non Num. Intero Available NOW! 85,10 € 01234
Curva Nord Centr Non Num. Intero Tickets not available ONLINE 67,80 € 01234
Curva Sud Centr. Non Num. Intero Tickets not available ONLINE 67,80 € 01234

I checked ticketone.it and found out that in many categories there are tickets available (see above). I assume Platea Prato is on the field. SX and DX left or right or what? Maumau can probably explain.

Wilco

1 platea is a little bit far away from the stage (left and right but looking from the stage) and they consider the best places
2 platea is actually both right in front of the stage and far away on both sides
3 platea is a little area on the left and on the right of the stage

each platea has SECTION, row and the actual number of the seat

if you go on and select quantity and then "acquista" (buy), just before you actually fill with your cc numbers you have the description of what you are about to buy but they tell you the general area that is for example 2 platea prato sx then row and number of the seat

but that area has 24 sections of which only 4 are actually in front of the stage (A,B,C and D) while the last (V,W,X,Y and Z) are very far away and pretty much on the side...

so you really dont know what you are buying (at least on the website)

if I have a "theatre like" kind of plan I expect to be treated as if i am going to theatre where i can choose on the plan the exact spot i want among those still available...

of course one can try repeatedly until you find something you like....

still i think it is ridicolous

ok so i was wrong
they actually tell you the section in this form:

seat 16 row 5 2PSB

where the B is actually the section in the platea sx

a little cryptic, isn't it?

so anyway you'll find me there

still they suck for all the other reasons

back in april when the tickets when on sale, we conducted a "full analysis" here trying to figure out the rome seating plan - i think the thread ended up being like 12 pages long ;-) so to get directly to the point, here's a link again to this apparently Top Secret map that stupido ticketone never managed to post on their website:

[www.rollingstonesitalia.com]

ps. i'm glad you're going to the show maumau, because, keith is god and yah, ticketone are really teste di...whatever

I am heading to Rome tommorow 99%.I am so nervous because I have never been in another country and most of all never been to a Stones gig.I am so happy.Hope everything will go well.

>> seat 16 row 5 2PSB - where the B is actually the section in the platea sx
a little cryptic, isn't it? <<

yes it is cryptic, but that's actually quite a good ticket -
Keith's side, second section from the catwalk, right down in front.
here's a larger version of the seating chart that the gallant and glamourous Loochie procured for us back when the sales started





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-07-03 09:20 by with sssoul.

stickydion Wrote:
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> phd wrote:
>
> (1) "3 shows in 5 years is not that much."
>
> Yes, but the prices are "too much"! You know, this
> "3 gigs in 5 years" would not be that much, if we
> were talking about UK, France or Spain. But, as
> 1990 tour showed, fanbase in Italy isn't that huge
> in order to the Stones are charging prices like
> these, on their third visit in the last 5 years...
>
>
> Anyway, enjoy the show! I wish i could be there...



OK. Like you : " Wish I could be there". Milano was such a good show last year.
Keep on Rolling, Keith.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Rockingfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do so many people have always problems with
> the
> > pitch seats. The fact is that there are seats
> now.
> > But why sitting on the seat. Nobody does in
> Canada
> > or the US or UK and nobody did in Frankfurt. Ok
> > some sat down for Keiths numbers or some did
> when
> > the stage moved. But what the heck.
> > Enjoy the show and take you seat and stand up
> and
> > shout.
>
>
> Simple - because they only decide to have pitch
> seating as an excuse to double the prices.
>
> Its got nothing to do with actually sitting on the
> damned things.


Gazza we all know by now that you don't like seats on the pitch.
I like both: FOS and seats on the pitch. So why always moaning about the seat instead of choosing those shows you have FOS and standing.
In Germany you have know the seated pitch, but all around Germany, easy to reach you can go as you please on FOS.
This is nothng personal. But think about how much money one spends on what and then you should judge yourself.
It is correct that the ticketprices are too high. But they would be also for FOS or Standing. As in timbernardis statement the people should think about twice when making a tour.

Stone601 Wrote:
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> I want to pay Eur.500 in a theatre not Eur.180 for
> a FOS seats in Olimpic Stadium.

i TOTAL agree with you
but i'll be in rome anyway...

StratoGR Wrote:
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> I am heading to Rome tommorow 99%.I am so nervous
> because I have never been in another country and
> most of all never been to a Stones gig.I am so
> happy.Hope everything will go well.


where are you from StratoGR ? don't worry about roma, it's pretty safe, well except you have to pay attention to your important belongings because you might get your pocket picked on the bus while gawking at the absurdly beautiful beauty of this city, plus thinkin about the seeing the absurdly beautiful rolling stones anyway, put your important stuff in a money-belt under your clothes (this from another huge thread the other day about european pickpockets...) hey, just hang around with us fellow stones fans - we will protect you !!!!! :-)

If anyone needs two tickets on the E section, I've got two spares for sale. :-)

As far as the concert is conserned, I'm really looking forward to it. It will be great, like every Stones show!

F*ck the Rock, gimmie the Roll!

Thanks a lot for the advice but I don't worry about loosing my belongings(I remember that post about pickpockets).I just think if I will find tickets on a good spot,if the Stones will be on good form.I don't want their best ever performance just not being dissapointing.The excitement has taken over my mind.If I see people with iorr t-shirts I'll come and speak to you.Who will be there?
I forgot to tell you that I am from Greece.

Which are the best hotels in Rome?

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> seat 16 row 5 2PSB - where the B is actually
> the section in the platea sx
> a little cryptic, isn't it? <<
>
> yes it is cryptic, but that's actually quite a
> good ticket -
> Keith's side, second section from the catwalk,
> right down in front.
> here's a larger version of the seating chart that
> the gallant and glamourous Loochie procured for us
> back when the sales started

yes sssoul that's a good ticket that showed up in one of my fishings, that's why i decided to grab it. In fact thanks to loochie and not ticketone i had the plan to check what i was buying...

I booked tickets and I'll travel tommorow.Hope I see most of you there and all have a good time.I don't care which songs they are going to play just to be a good performance.Who's the supporting group?

hey stratoGR,
the one "official" stones get-together on the night before the show is here !

[www.iorr.org]

see you there :-)

Nice because I'll get there earlier.I'll definetely come

Harm Wrote:
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> Which are the best hotels in Rome?

well, dunno about which hotels are "best", but I know that they're all really expensive anyway In the center they seem to be euro 130/night at least, maybe a little cheaper near termini. don't really know much about hotels, i know a few cheaper flats/rooms that i'm involved in renting short-term, but sorry no availability at the last minute...this is high season and it's pretty packed here...
anyway craigslist/rome can be good if someone needs to find a place at the last minute - hmmm, it can be sort of "buyer-beware" though because there's often some exaggerating that goes on about how "close" the flat is to certain famous things in the center, bla bla bla, but some of the places are cheap and seem pretty nice - so if you aren't that picky, it can be okay ! (and then see above for some transport details from harm, or just ask stuff

loochie Wrote:
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> Harm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which are the best hotels in Rome?
>
> well, dunno about which hotels are "best", but I
> know that they're all really expensive anyway
> In the center they seem to be euro 130/night at
> least, maybe a little cheaper near termini. don't
> really know much about hotels, i know a few
> cheaper flats/rooms that i'm involved in renting
> short-term, but sorry no availability at the last
> minute...this is high season and it's pretty
> packed here...
> anyway craigslist/rome can be good if someone
> needs to find a place at the last minute - hmmm,
> it can be sort of "buyer-beware" though because
> there's often some exaggerating that goes on about
> how "close" the flat is to certain famous things
> in the center, bla bla bla, but some of the places
> are cheap and seem pretty nice - so if you aren't
> that picky, it can be okay ! (and then see above
> for some transport details from harm, or just ask
> stuff

What if I were a rockstar or an actor (winner of an Oscar). Where would you reccomend me to stay in Rome?
Like eg. Conrad in Brussels or Amstel in Amsterdam :-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-07-03 17:41 by Harm.

R R R R R R R R Roma here we come ..............



Gimme FOS, gimme seats, gimme gimme gimme ... I got it ... gimme SHELTER !!!!!!!