how about his ass in the potato salad?

mickijaggeroo Wrote:
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> Baboon Bro Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> I went last summer,
> > but it
> > was cancelled. Never were on topic to see them
> at
> > Licks or before.
>
> In all kindness, wich show was that? Gothenburg? I
> seem to remember you said you did not have the
> funds for a show. That´s OK.

I had tickets for Göteborg. Two tickets,
one for my son, one for me.
We went to Göteborg,
isnce all was set & planned & I had a vacation.

What was the fund thing? They were refunded.

But you´re choosing Brno this year. How can that be cheaper than going to Göteborg?

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

Maybe its just a technical problem,the monitor system don't work on keith side ,sometimes ? As i posted earlier noone of them looks "tragic" at this tour.

ryanpow Wrote:
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> how about his ass in the potato salad?


Or the other way around ................

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mickijaggeroo Wrote:
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> But you´re choosing Brno this year. How can that
> be cheaper than going to Göteborg?

I tell ya, Ville. I got FOS for 185 SKR there.
Value fell drastically at E-bay after Keef-disaster-reports.

I have three family members goin' to the concert.
I pick up Kent & Sohoe along the way plus another chap.

*Nuff details there. More in pm if ya need more details

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> mickijaggeroo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But you´re choosing Brno this year. How can
> that
> > be cheaper than going to Göteborg?
>
> I tell ya, Ville. I got FOS for 185 SKR there.
> Value fell drastically at E-bay after
> Keef-disaster-reports.
>
> I have three family members goin' to the concert.
>
> I pick up Kent & Sohoe along the way plus another
> chap.
>
> *Nuff details there. More in pm if ya need more
> details


But gasfares, etc etc? But 185 SEK seems fantastic. Hope you catch them on a good night.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-29 23:19 by mickijaggeroo.

after reading your post, capsula
I go see the pics of the Madrid show...how is Keith...

this man don't look sick...this man is happy, no?


Shot at 2007-06-29

maybe drunk...




like me now
lets drink one capsula

brainer Wrote:
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> Maybe its just a technical problem,the monitor
> system don't work on keith side ,sometimes ? As i
> posted earlier noone of them looks "tragic" at
> this tour.


maybe his guitar is sometimes, ah, a bit hesitant to produce the notes that Keith played? this would explain a lot. if not, then its probably his amp. or the cable connection from his amp to the mixing desk. or maybe mixing desk has technical difficulties. theres possibly too much delay on his guitar so its sounds out of the bands timing. thats it! no problems with Keith at all, its just a technical issue!

...if I were Keith, I would fire the responsible technicians then or replace bad technology. but then, its Keith - too kind and too good to be true. instead, he chooses to take the heat from the socalled fans. our Keith. god, what a good guy.

Yerrrrr, that's it!

Nice picture of Keith, but notice the size of that pinky knuckle. Could you play like that? I couldn't.

"No Anchovies, Please"

NICOS Wrote:
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> ryanpow Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > how about his ass in the potato salad?
>
>
> Or the other way around ................


or both...

I was in the last 3 concerts very near of the stage and yesterday I was really worried by Keith.
It is true he almost fell and made some mistakes. It seems like some medication efects or... another things, but it is not normal at all.
And Ronnie was also no so fine during the 1st part, sometimes difficult to hear him and sometimes conspirating with Keith in the shadows. Mick was incredible trying to motivate everybody and sometimes serious with Ronnie

Aint he just, at times, stoned to death as a cure for his Arthritis?

Its easy to lift up Jagger, he doesnt have to interfere
as much with the technique, does he?

Well,I think recently that Keef looks better than he ever, he seems to have put on weight and looks less gaunt, especially his face. I just wondered had he plastic surgery done, or botox injections -- for once, injecting something other than narcotics! I see a vast change in his appearance.

As far as his playing goes, I haven't been to a show yet.

whoa, haven't logged in here since yesterday...at that time it was all rave reviews...'guitars like bombs' extended arrangements...long solos on satisfaction...today he is at death's door...a pathetic shell...

so what do i conclude from all this...?
haven't the slightest...is there a reasonably good mp3 or clip of any of this available...i'll check youtube now...sometimes those things sound great, sometimes all shaky visually and sonically...

wellll, i just don't know what the hell to think...u stay away from the stones forum for less than 24 hours and the perceptions waver to and fro...i understand some of the arguments of course...it's not like he hasn't pulled off a shitty performance of this or that song in this or that gig...but these funeral arrangements may be a little premature...jeesh...

work it out and i'll come back tomorrow for a verdict...somebody post a link for godsake...i go to bed thinking it's a triumph, i get to the site today and there's a long line of cars at the funeral home...wassup...? tail lights fading or super good...or something at least acceptably in between??? gosh...sorry to say anything...because i dont' know what the hell to think or say now and admit it...excuse moi...

gazza was there, has he posted a review in one of the threads?? he's purty reliable from my point of view...total gonzo fan but he'll take 'em to task in a minute if he feels it's true...guess i'll do a 'search'...holy moly, what a shock after following the madrid thead in real time last night...and just arriving now today...whew....have never seen absolute triumph, (with a fair caveat here and there) turn into total dread burial plans within a few hours and all from the same show...man, it gets a bit confusing...gonna have to hear it for myself...but even that's 'iffy' what with sonic from a fan recording etc...
ohboy..i'll have to wade thru all this thread i guess...but the first two pages really depressed me...
worse case scenario of the mega event morphing to more intimate shows is a best case scenario for the boyz, the band, the music and the fans anyway imho...
so if it's the end of the mega event...great...it will save them as a band for another ten years...shake things out a bit maybe...

These "Keith is ill" threads look more and more manifactured to me...

Wild Slivovitz Wrote:
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> These "Keith is ill" threads look more and more
> manifactured to me...

agree

Beelyboy...don't worry...it's just that evil life's got us ALL in its sway...

Keef is up and down.

One moment THERE.

The next moment GONE.

No deathbed. That is nonsense.

No funeral arrangements...just incredible inconsistency...brilliant...and then not...here and then gone.

I can only speak from my experience [Frankfurt and Barcelona]...tailights blinking off and on...maybe Gazza had a different experience...shine a light, Keef!

Beelyboy Wrote:
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> whoa, haven't logged in here since yesterday...at
> that time it was all rave reviews...'guitars like
> bombs' extended arrangements...long solos on
> satisfaction...today he is at death's door...a
> pathetic shell...
>
> so what do i conclude from all this...?
> haven't the slightest...is there a reasonably good
> mp3 or clip of any of this available...i'll check
> youtube now...sometimes those things sound great,
> sometimes all shaky visually and sonically...
>
> wellll, i just don't know what the hell to
> think...u stay away from the stones forum for less
> than 24 hours and the perceptions waver to and
> fro...i understand some of the arguments of
> course...it's not like he hasn't pulled off a
> shitty performance of this or that song in this or
> that gig...but these funeral arrangements may be a
> little premature...jeesh...
>
> work it out and i'll come back tomorrow for a
> verdict...somebody post a link for godsake...i go
> to bed thinking it's a triumph, i get to the site
> today and there's a long line of cars at the
> funeral home...wassup...? tail lights fading or
> super good...or something at least acceptably in
> between??? gosh...sorry to say anything...because
> i dont' know what the hell to think or say now and
> admit it...excuse moi...
>
> gazza was there, has he posted a review in one of
> the threads?? he's purty reliable from my point
> of view...total gonzo fan but he'll take 'em to
> task in a minute if he feels it's true...guess
> i'll do a 'search'...holy moly, what a shock after
> following the madrid thead in real time last
> night...and just arriving now today...whew....have
> never seen absolute triumph, (with a fair caveat
> here and there) turn into total dread burial plans
> within a few hours and all from the same
> show...man, it gets a bit confusing...gonna have
> to hear it for myself...but even that's 'iffy'
> what with sonic from a fan recording etc...
> ohboy..i'll have to wade thru all this thread i
> guess...but the first two pages really depressed
> me...
> worse case scenario of the mega event morphing to
> more intimate shows is a best case scenario for
> the boyz, the band, the music and the fans anyway
> imho...
> so if it's the end of the mega event...great...it
> will save them as a band for another ten
> years...shake things out a bit maybe...


Indeed. I also hold Gazza's opinion very highly. When I heard of his praise of last night's show...it actually made me feel better about this Keith stuff. Being all the way in the US, and not attending any of the recent shows, reading people's reviews and watchign clips on YouTube were my only resources to deliberate on the situation.

To be completely honest, I don't trust anyone's account of a show when they are in attedance. It's ass-backwards, I know. The person who was actually at the show should have a heavier opinion...but I believe there are factors that work against them when it comes to their opinion.

You're at a show, the energy, the adrenaline and especially the excitement I think distorts your experience (positively). All these factors are like a drug: they enhance the experience.

In concert, everything is MUCH louder than how we usually listen to them. It's completely overwhelming. You're screaming...singing along...watching with thousands of other people...you're having a great time. It's hard to have a terrible time, really.

When I read stuff like "Keith was incredible!!" "Keith is BACK!!" "Keith played a GREAT LONG SOLO!"...I take with a grain of salt. First of all, it's only this person's opinion...and their opinion of what is "Great" and "Incredible" could be someone else's "just okay" or "pretty good." Also, we all don't have the same knowledge of the Stones. Some here are musicians...some are not...some are hardcore fans...some are not THAT hardcore.

Me, for example, I'm a musician (like some here, i'm Sure) and have listened and watched the Stones enough times to know what their habits and styles pretty well. When Keith is up for a solo...I can expect what he's going to play...I can guess what fills he'll play during IORR, I know pretty well what Ronnie can do during Tumblin' Dice...etc...etc.. With that knowledge in my mind...I already have a criteria. What I think is "okay" may be "INCREDIBLE" to another fan who has very little knowledge of the band, musically. That's where things differ.

I think Keith just needs a break.

Its his hand mate!Just look at em

Ok guys. So try to lean down on your knees, almost so that your ass is touching the floor. Then take a look up into the air like you know Ronnie is up there playing the acoustic guitar, and you have a great time. Imagine you are 60+ and not 20 anymore. Keith does this every time on Silver and in Madrid he leaned too much on his back and not to the front. But they way he catched up running backwards and not really falling on his back is telling me this guy is fine he just doesn't always act like his body is 20 anymore, which is quite common for his age.

Bjornulf

Here's Paint it Black - and it's pretty good...

>> capsula
>
> I already have the tickets, and I will attend the show. But It's sad to see Keith like this.
> I'm thinking that it has been a mistake to attend to shows of this tour,
>maybe it would have been better to have in my memory the last keith I saw, in 2003.



Hey capsula

If you are not going can I have your ticket ? ......... :-)

Your account reminds me of when people are on medication and they forget if they took it
and take it again and they is how they are for a few hours ..... not with it.

You see people do it with valium and they are zonked at home or at work if Keith does it they don't want to cancel
but his office is in front of 50,000 people and I am sure they just want him on stage and they will cover for him
which sounds exactly like what they did.


I guess they were hoping no one will frighten all their fans with stories that Keith has joined the walking dead !!!


Don't forget to take your tape recorder [www.iorr.org]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-30 05:20 by mm54321.

As I read through the various posts on this subject one thing resounds clearly-"PASSION"-everyone has it for our band. Enjoy the opportunity you are being given to see a man in his mid 60's, with a lust for life, run rings around people half his age.

Remember what bv once wrote-this is probably the last tour and the reasons will become evident.

To all of you watching them rock in Europe I am jealous.

"Time waits for no man no favours has he"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-30 05:20 by rsk45.

Just home, and as someone's asked me, I'll do a quick summary. I thought Keith looked a little slower and more frail in Madrid than in Lisbon - where he was running around the stage and doing his little kicks, etc. HOWEVER, apart from a couple of screw ups here and there ('Happy' was an absolute trainwreck, although that had more to do with mot knowing the words well enough and getting a bit lost when he started singing another chorus when the band were getting ready to wind it up), I thought he actually PLAYED better in Madrid than he did in Lisbon (and he was VERY good in Lisbon). The sound of his guitar on the b-stage during IORR and Satisfaction was absolutely amazing, and JJF was terrific too. Lots of longer versions of songs in both shows, with more extended soloing and riffing than usual. He seemed to briefly stumble on the catwalk during TD at one point, but I think it would be pretty absurd to make anything major out of that. There was a lovely and telling momemnt during Shes So Cold where he hit this wonderful solo, and Ronnie who was standing right beside him, shot him a look then pulled this amazed face at the crowd as if to say "wow! Whats he been taking!"

However, I'm happy to report that I briefly got the chance to say hello to Keith today in Madrid and got a quick handshake - and the man looked to be moving as normal as anyone should be expected to be.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-06-30 06:02 by Gazza.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Just home, and as someone's asked me, I'll do a
> quick summary. I thought Keith looked a little
> slower and more frail in Madrid than in Lisbon -
> where he was running around the stage and doing
> his little kicks, etc. HOWEVER, apart from a
> couple of screw ups here and there ('Happy' was an
> absolute trainwreck, although that had more to do
> with mot knowing the words well enough and getting
> a bit lost when he started singing another chorus
> when the band were getting ready to wind it up), I
> thought he actually PLAYED better in Madrid than
> he did in Lisbon (and he was VERY good in Lisbon).
> The sound of his guitar on the b-stage during IORR
> and Satisfaction was absolutely amazing, and JJF
> was terrific too. Lots of longer versions of songs
> in both shows, with more extended soloing and
> riffing than usual. He seemed to briefly stumble
> on the catwalk during TD at one point, but I think
> it would be pretty absurd to make anything major
> out of that. There was a lovely and telling
> momemnt during Shes So Cold where he hit this
> wonderful solo, and Ronnie who was standing right
> beside him, shot him a look then pulled this
> amazed face at the crowd as if to say "wow! Whats
> he been taking!"
>
> However, I'm happy to report that I briefly got
> the chance to say hello to Keith today in Madrid
> and got a quick handshake - and the man looked to
> be moving as normal as anyone should be expected
> to be.

Now that's good news!

God speed Keith.

Gazza Wrote:
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> However, I'm happy to report that I briefly got
> the chance to say hello to Keith today in Madrid
> and got a quick handshake - and the man looked to
> be moving as normal as anyone should be expected
> to be.

nice to hear all around!

Thread put to bed by our correspondent Gazza.

Sugar Brown Wrote:
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> after reading your post, capsula
> I go see the pics of the Madrid show...how is
> Keith...
>
> this man don't look sick...this man is happy, no?
>
> >
> maybe drunk...
>
>

Actually, I think he does look sick. But he's onstage, and so he's happy. I just hope he can make it through the rest of the Euro tour so everyone who is planning to go can get one more performance under their belt before it's all over for good. I'm not holding my breath ever seeing them again here in the States.

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And the queen is bravely shouting,
"What the hell is going on?"