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Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: brass olive ()
Date: May 2, 2007 15:04

I know that during the 6 nights at Madison Square gardens 22nd to the 27th June 1975 that Eric Clapton & Carlos Santana both guested on Sympathy For The Devil.
I have spotted some photos of Clapton with the Stones on Sympathy but never sighted any of Carlos during his guest spot with the Stones.

Do any exist?

If so, can that kind soul known as Rockman who reaches into his bottomless bag of tricks & produces endless awesome Stones photographs provide these?
Or anyone else for that matter ?
Thanks if anyone can.

Cheers,
Brass Olive

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: May 2, 2007 15:08

Here's one from June 27th 1975....with watermark


Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: brass olive ()
Date: May 2, 2007 15:16

ahhh...very nice - thanks Eric.
Any others?

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: StratoGR ()
Date: May 2, 2007 15:56

Is there any boot where I can hear Santana play with the Stones?

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: May 2, 2007 15:57

Yep, there's a great recording of that show floating around

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: HalfNanker ()
Date: May 2, 2007 16:13

I was unaware of that! now that would have been a great time to "try out" Can't You Hear Me Knocking--can you imagine carlos Santana playing the MT riff?!

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: rknuth ()
Date: May 2, 2007 17:32

Sympathy is great Bill and Charly trying for 3 minutes to get synchronized.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: May 2, 2007 21:28

Clapton and Santana are known guests, but Jesse Ed Davis also guested on SFTD, at the LA Forum.

Mathijs

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: May 2, 2007 23:47

Is there a recording of SFTD with Jesse Ed? That would be fantastic to hear...

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 2, 2007 23:51

all 11 of the LA and NY shows from 1975 are in circulation, many of them in very good or excellent quality

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: May 3, 2007 00:15

I only have "Hold On Tight" and "Eric Clapton & His Rolling Stones". Any others on the RO BT-tracker Gazza?

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Tumblin_Dice_07 ()
Date: May 3, 2007 00:39

Who else played on "Sympathy For The Devil" at MSG on 6/25/75? I know when Clapton and Santana played, Keith played bass. The 6/25 version starts out with the bass riff so I'm wondering if it's Keith?

I dunno. I need to go listen to it and pay more attention.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: texas fan ()
Date: May 3, 2007 00:44

HalfNanker Wrote:
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> I was unaware of that! now that would have been a
> great time to "try out" Can't You Hear Me
> Knocking--can you imagine carlos Santana playing
> the MT riff?!


Well, of course, there's some Santana in the MT solo, but the rhythm Taylor plays earlier in the song might not be so natural for Santana. I've always thought Ronnie doesn't get enough credit for his lead playing, but I also think Taylor often doesn't get enough credit for his rhythm playing/weaving.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Odd-beat ()
Date: May 3, 2007 00:57

At that point in time Santana could play anything. He was at an absolute peak, learned an awful lot with John McLaughlin, etc. One listen to "Lotus" (live set recorded in Japan in '73) or "Borboletta" ('74) or "Love, Devotion & Surrender" should convince you.

You are referring to those dreamy, jazzy kind of chords aren't you? I love these!

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: brass olive ()
Date: May 3, 2007 16:23

thanks again for Eric's pic, but are there any others??
It seems they are quite rare compared to the many with Eric C.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: May 3, 2007 16:48

DandelionPowderman Wrote:
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> I only have "Hold On Tight" and "Eric Clapton &
> His Rolling Stones". Any others on the RO
> BT-tracker Gazza?


Dont know. Theres loads of shows on there and as I'm not the 'host' of it, I dont really keep an eye on whats available on an everyday basis.

Cant access it from work - but youre welcome to have a peek!

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: May 3, 2007 16:59

Texas fan I am with you on that: Taylor did a lot of great rhythm playing. And he "wove" with the best of 'em. Esepcially early on in 69-71 there was a lot of back and forth between Keith and Taylor.
Jesse Ed Davis on SFTD? ThAT is nice on paper, but to be real - he didn't come and light it up. Strummed the chords and drank the booze.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: 5strings ()
Date: October 24, 2025 23:28

I'm trying to find a good version of SFTD with Carlos Santana in 1975 at the MSG .
Better than this one ?

[youtu.be]

Thanks smileys with beer

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: October 25, 2025 00:21

What was your he point in having Santana as a guest?

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: JMARKO ()
Date: October 25, 2025 04:35

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Is there a recording of SFTD with Jesse Ed? That would be fantastic to hear...

I believe one of the officially released versions of L.A. 75 has the Jessie Ed Davis encore.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: October 25, 2025 09:24

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JMARKO
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Is there a recording of SFTD with Jesse Ed? That would be fantastic to hear...

I believe one of the officially released versions of L.A. 75 has the Jessie Ed Davis encore.

My question was from 2007 smiling smiley

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 27, 2025 13:54

Quote
HalfNanker
I was unaware of that! now that would have been a great time to "try out" Can't You Hear Me Knocking--can you imagine carlos Santana playing the MT riff?!

In the 18 years (!) since this remark I have learned Taylor's solo [[i]edit: of Time Waits For No One[/i]] is loosely based on Santana's 'Song of the Wind' track from the 1972 album Caravanserai'.

Mathijs



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-10-27 14:11 by Mathijs.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: October 27, 2025 14:05

Quote
Mathijs
Quote
HalfNanker
I was unaware of that! now that would have been a great time to "try out" Can't You Hear Me Knocking--can you imagine carlos Santana playing the MT riff?!

In the 18 years (!) since this remark I have learned Taylor's solo is loosely based on Santana's 'Song of the Wind' track from the 1972 album Caravanserai'.

Mathijs

Please excuse me if my maths is wrong here but CYHMK came out the year before in 71. Unless of course Mick Taylor had a time machine.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 27, 2025 14:11

Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
Mathijs
Quote
HalfNanker
I was unaware of that! now that would have been a great time to "try out" Can't You Hear Me Knocking--can you imagine carlos Santana playing the MT riff?!

In the 18 years (!) since this remark I have learned Taylor's solo is loosely based on Santana's 'Song of the Wind' track from the 1972 album Caravanserai'.

Mathijs

Please excuse me if my maths is wrong here but CYHMK came out the year before in 71. Unless of course Mick Taylor had a time machine.

Ah yes of course. I meant Time Waits For No One.

Excusez moi.

Mathijs

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: October 28, 2025 12:29

Quote
5strings
I'm trying to find a good version of SFTD with Carlos Santana in 1975 at the MSG .
Better than this one ?

[youtu.be]

Thanks smileys with beer

Bill has been missed since he left. And that bass by KR is downright frightening — it gives you goosebumps...…makes you want to find a place to hide.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: October 28, 2025 13:09

Quote
Erik_Snow
Here's one from June 27th 1975....with watermark


It was Carlos who recommended the Mesa Boogie amps for the Stones. He's playing it here, as we see from the picture smiling smiley

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 28, 2025 13:10

To be honest, I wasn't even aware Carlos Santana guested with the Stones at any point. Admittedly, the 1975 Tour isn't an absolute favourite of mine.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: October 28, 2025 14:28

Quote
Big Al
To be honest, I wasn't even aware Carlos Santana guested with the Stones at any point. Admittedly, the 1975 Tour isn't an absolute favourite of mine.


Me neither. I only knew he guested with Bob Dylan and Mick Taylor 1n 1984

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: October 28, 2025 15:01

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Erik_Snow
Here's one from June 27th 1975....with watermark


It was Carlos who recommended the Mesa Boogie amps for the Stones. He's playing it here, as we see from the picture smiling smiley

Well....likely not: George Harrison was using Boogie MK1 on his 1974 Dark Horse album, which incidentally features Ron Wood. Wood was using a Boogie amp backstage with the Faces, and there are pictures of a Boogie MK 1 on stage with the Stones in 1975, before the MSG gig with Clapton -at least, the stage is the normal stage, not the Lotus Flower stage, and Jagger is wearing clothing he wore during the first soundchecks and stage proofing. So, they knew of the amps before the Santana gig.

For the El Mocambo 1977 rehearsals and gigs Ian Stewart and Alan Rogan were looking for small amps to replace the way too large Ampeg stacks they were using -it is most likely that they simply went for the top of the line amp that all famous players were using at the time.

Mathijs



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-10-29 09:55 by Mathijs.

Re: Carlos Santana & The Stones MSG 1975
Date: October 28, 2025 17:26

According to the interview I read he did, but they could have been aware of its qualities, like you say, of course.

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