JuanTCB Wrote:
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> I work about 7 blocks from the Waldorf, so I'm
> going Keefspotting after work.
>
> Hopefully, I'll have a sighting.


Take your camera with you!

Roxy Music
New York Dolls
J. Geils Band
Faces

But they'll never get in. It's all a ridiculous sham now because they will only induct acts that will bring in ratings to the VH1 telecast. Why do you think they're inducting Van Halen? If it was only Patti Smith, R.E.M. and the Ronettes, no one would watch the telecast. Plus they want to get younger visitors into the museum. It has absolutely no merit whatsoever any more.

I read an article yesterday that said that Patti Smith is the last Seventies punk act that will be inducted because that era of artists is "too old" and from now on the inductees will be mostly rap acts to appeal to the 12 to 34-year-old demographic that the advertisers want. It's about the advertisers now and which acts can bring in the most teens and twenty-year-old viewers and museum attendees to sell their soft-drinks and video games to. They don't care about merit or influence any more and they certainly don't care about what anyone over 35 thinks or wants.

What a shame. Too bad there can't be a REAL Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame like other Hall-Of-Fames that is actually is based on merit and not advertisers. And a separate Rap and Hip-Hop Hall of Fame. They are--for the most part--completely different types of music, but I'm sure that would be considered racist...even with Chuck Berry, Aretha, Otis, Sam Cooke, James Brown, Al Green, etc., etc., etc. in the Rock 'N Roll Hall of Fame where they should be. They aren't rap or hip-hop artists, they are truly talented ARTISTS, not button-pushers.

It's absolutely irrelevent now, just like the Billboard Charts, radio, 'Rolling Stone' magazine, MTV and VH1. It's all about the MONEY.

the thing with the HOF is that it celebrates the music and those who greatly influenced it (not exclusivly ROCK, but things that helped rock become what it is)

IE - I don't think Jethro Tull should ever be in.
WHY? Because while they may have some fans (I am NOT one of them, I find this flute playing hack to be boring) I have never heard anyone say Tull influenced them in any way (except to turn the radio off)
They had a few hits in thier day, but no reason to be celebrated in the HOF

KISS in the other hand (also not a big fan, I have enjoyed them before but I don't get giddy when these tired dinosours tour) BUT KISS have inluenced a ton of bands. no real hits, BUT a TON of influence.

I looked at the entire list of indutees so far and I gotta say that there is no one in there that does not deserve it. Several names I resent because I hate the music so much (Billy Joel, Grateful Dead, Jackson Browne)but they have earned their spot in there. So I don't think one can question the validity of the place. Of course some people hate awards period. But it is really not a open competition. Like I don't feel like someone else is losing when someone gets inducted. Of course there are names that deserve to be in there that have not made it yet, but I trust everyone's time will come.
I do hope they keep it pure and keep it a rock'n roll hall of fame. There are still many rockers that should be in there. It doesn't matter what "the kids are into nowadays". I thought the HOF wasn't about that. Most of the inductees are either dead or done.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

keithfan64 Wrote:
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> The Dave Clark 5 had a string of great hits and
> were on the ballet this year but not voted in in
> faver of no talent critics faverates like Patti
> Smith .

as it should have been

Without the DC5 there may not have been a
> British Invasion to follow the Beatles.


Nonsense

Glad All
> Over was a strong enough hit, as were Bits and
> Pieces, Can't You See That She's Mine, Because,
> ect. to show America there was more than just one
> hit pop group in England. They were the 2nd
> British band to appear on the Ed Sullivan show and
> really paved the way for the others, including the
> Stones.

No - The Beatles paved the way for the Stones. With an impact as huge as that that they didnt really NEED the DC5

boston2006 Wrote:
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> What is the needed criteria for induction ?


being around for 25 years and being quite good.
Thats about it.

bands like kiss get overlooked because they are a gimmick band more than anything else, imho they should be in, but if it hasnt happened yet

As long as they keep it a ROCK Hall of Fame, I still think everyone will get his due. What does sound worrisome is where I just read that from now on it's going to be all Hip Hop artists, because that is what the kids listen to today.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

oh no, say its not so

Theres not exactly too many worthy rock n roll artists who have emerged in the last 10-20 years, lets face it.

Gazza Wrote:
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> Theres not exactly too many worthy rock n roll
> artists who have emerged in the last 10-20 years,
> lets face it.



Not many BUT there are some that will be remembered for a long time and certianly be inducted eventualy.

Nirvana
Guns-N-Roses
Metallica
The Fugees
Green Day
Black Crowes
Foo Fighters
RHCP
White Stripes
Beastie Boys
Public Enemy
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Motley Crue
Stone Temple Pilots

and Gazzas favorite band, Bon Jovi will also proably one day get invited to the big show.

Gazza, my point was that the Beatles alone could have been viewed as a unique phenominum and not created a wide open door to America for any and all British bands if the Glad All Over had not followed within weeks of their Sullivan appearance. After the DC5 and Gerry and the Pacemakers, America was ready for the rougher style of the Animals and the Stones. I was 17 at the time and know how things were in this country. The DC5 had 4 top 10 US in '64 and out drew the Stones in my hometown in '65. What did Patti Smith ever have except a Keith Richards haircut and industry backing? Horses? What was that? The H.O.F.is a joke.

Yeah I felt the same way when Earth Wind & Fire got in. They are the Led Zeppelin of soul. But they ain't rock.

no doubt in my mind that any credible hall of fame would include the DC5...
a string of magnificent hits; exciting live...those single still cut it if you get the right versions...

could someone post the link so i might watch it live now...
would be great to see the ronnettes and keith...ty.

i'm on THIS link...and it just tells me something's 'loading' not sure if i'm in the right link...ty
[spinner.aol.com]

I'm watching the video stream and it keeps
FLICKERING

anyone else getting that happen?

edit: it stopped flickering



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-03-13 02:48 by schillid.

watching on vh1 classic now, aretha is on now doing some boring songs, just waiting for keith then i will be outta there

ronettes spot just started... that means keith

Keith should be on soon. They are inducting The Ronettes now.

Is that a mustache on keith's lip or dirt?

keith is a bad asssssssssss woooooooooooooo

so whats happenin? i got no tv!!!!!!! how's keith???

@#$%& AOL online link not available in my area! Grr...friggin' insular pricks.

he looked like an idiot with that stuff on his lip......way too cool for that

keiths speech was very cool but kind of short, and he stayed up there for the whole induction, very nice

Yeah he actually completed whole sentences strung together. Which many did not think possible. Plus he fired up a smoke while giving his speech. Classic.

His speech sounded good, but did he forget to give them their awards? My internet keeps cutting out and I missed part of what was said there.

is Zappa In??

/\/ / <_ /<

Keith has a MOUSTACHE? @#$%& hell!

Suffice to say, no luck with my stakeout, unless Jann Wenner, Susan Sarandon, and some SNL cast members count.

Well The Ronettes are singing now. With Paul Schafer & the CBS Orchestra as the house band.

Here is a picture of Keith at the show