Found this great site: [www.nzentgraf.de]

710300B March: UK TV (BBC) ‘Top Of The Pops’, London.
- Bitch (MJ/KR) -live vocals on prepared backing track
- Wild Horses (MJ/KR) -live vocals on prepared backing track
Line-up: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)
Note: Telecast on the 22nd April.
The Stones didn’t use the official takes as playback.

What happened to these have they turned up?
Sorry if this has been overdone. x

No..they only exist on audio form. The original video tapes of the performance and the broadcast have been destroyed.

Gazza Wrote:
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> No..they only exist on audio form. The original
> video tapes of the performance and the broadcast
> have been destroyed.

What a shame, They were destroyed because they were not going to be used?

The BBC wiped the tapes because they were expensive and wanted to reuse them. Other Stones things missing include Juke Box Jury.

OT: In the mid 70s they had every episode of Doctor Who and wiped the lot then spent the next 30 years trying to recover them, still a lot missing but every once in a while one turns up.

I;m sorry, but again and again one hears about these BBC blunders. Were they really broke or just a l;ittle slow on the uptake?

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

The latter

Just a case of needing storage space and not having the foresight to see what the likes of us would consider to be material of significant cultural and historical importance.

There are only something like 5 or 6 of the Stones' performances on TOTP left. Thats why whenever the BBC advertise some kind of "Stones special" every so often its rarely worth watching as its always the same clips. Tseverin may correct me on this as he knows better, but 2 of those performances that get shown over and over (namely the 26.1.67 clip of LSTNT and the 15.4.71 clip of Brown Sugar) are actually reruns taken from the Christmas day 'best of the year' editions of the show as the original broadcasts have been wiped. The 1969 Xmas Day TOTP appearance of 'Honky tonk women' wasnt a rerun from July of that year, but a new performance recorded especially for the show on 12.12.69 (the July/August appearances have been wiped as well, including the historically significant one of the Stones' appearance on the show on the day that Brian died). The Stones taped 2 versions of HTW that day for use on the show, both of which were shown a few times over the following few weeks.



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Funny you should mention that clip of LSTNT Gazza, it was shown on BBC4 only last night on their 'Sounds Of The Sixties' slot. Still amuses me that the words had to be changed for their appearnace on U.S. televison.

Gazza Wrote:
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> No..they only exist on audio form. The original
> video tapes of the performance and the broadcast
> have been destroyed.


ARGH! What nerve! Who destroyed them?

JumpingKentFlash

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> ARGH! What nerve! Who destroyed them?


the suspects have been narrowed down to :

Me
Bjornulf
Michael Cohl
Tony Blair
The Brian Jones Fan Club
The Beatles
Bon Jovi
Ferrante
Allen Klein
Debra
Nikkibong
Bono
The Spice Girls
Sven-Goran Eriksson



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Gazza Wrote:
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> JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
> >
> > ARGH! What nerve! Who destroyed them?
>
>
> the suspects have been narrowed down to :
>
> Me
> Bjornulf
> Michael Cohl
> Tony Blair
> The Brian Jones Fan Club
> The Beatles
> Bon Jovi
> Ferrante
> Allen Klein
> Debra
> Nikkibong
> Bono
> The Spice Girls
> Sven-Goran Eriksson


*In Basil Fawlty's angry voice* IT'S BLOODY WILSON!!!!

JumpingKentFlash

...you just never know ...!

jonnyharris Wrote:
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> What a shame, They were destroyed because they
> were not going to be used?


They WERE used!

For a short time, the UK's "Top of the Pops" programme included a "featured album" slot in which an artiste would perform three songs instead of the customary single chart hit. The reaction to the Stones' appearance was incredible with the sales of Sticky Fingers shooting up three-fold during the following week.

It's an absolute disgrace that the BBC have allowed such fantastic footage to be destroyed.

Oddly enough the Faces' 'album slot' from the following week (29/4/71) DOES survive. It was shown on a rerun of the entire show in a series of vintage TOTP editions on UK Gold over a decade ago. They played 'Richmond' and 'Bad 'n' Ruin' "

Guess I should count myself lucky to have watched and thoroughly enjoyed that TOTP broadcast at the tender age of 11

Joss Wrote:
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> Guess I should count myself lucky to have watched
> and thoroughly enjoyed that TOTP broadcast at the
> tender age of 11


ahhh im really annoyed and very jealous found a picture though with some brilliant writing over the middle of it,

very nice. never seen that one before. 'Wild Horses' I presume.

and keith playing a 12 string, which is not a really a huge point because they werent playing live, but i presume it is his guitar?

Who was the saxophonist they had miming with them during Brown Sugar?

Trevor Lawrence, according to Nico Zentgraf's site.

Odd that they didnt use Bobby Keys as the clip was actually filmed just after the British tour and around the time of the Marquee shows in March, in which Bobby DID play.

there is a boot ,,(the audio of this ) ,,

......



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Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings



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The stones clip of HONKY TONK WOMEN FROM 1969 was awesome,MICK JAGGER DANCING
was brilliant you could not take your eyes of him,i wonder if one of the fans
have this recorded,jumping jack flash and brown sugar the other two which are
awesome,b.b.c must have recording of h.t.women somewhere from july 1969.

there all on the performances mickijaggeroo orginally put up:

Brown Sugar:



Honky Tonk:



Gimme Shelter:

kish_stoned Wrote:
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> The stones clip of HONKY TONK WOMEN FROM 1969 was
> awesome,MICK JAGGER DANCING
> was brilliant you could not take your eyes of
> him,i wonder if one of the fans
> have this recorded,jumping jack flash and brown
> sugar the other two which are
> awesome,b.b.c must have recording of h.t.women
> somewhere from july 1969.



Nope. They dont

The clip posted above by jonny is from December '69, filmed the same day as the Gimme Shelter clip which wasnt recorded for TOTP but for the New years Eve "Pop go The 60's" special

HI,
Thank you very much,the HONKY TONK WOMEN is not the orginal,the one i was
refering to was MICK JAGER wearing a black cut out t.shirt with a leather stud
around his neck and white trouzers,he was just BRILLIANT,DANCING THE NIGHT AWAY

I have this on video tape.

>> I have this on video tape. <<

which "this" do you mean, Heiloobaas?

>> Keith playing a 12 string <<

yep! standing up with nary a guitar strap in sight. i love it. :E

>> i presume it is his guitar? <<

can't think of a single reason why it wouldn't be.
would any of our kind patient Guitar Connoisseurs like to identify the model, through the watermark?
please and thank you and have some popcorn