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stones' best grooves?
Posted by: otonneau ()
Date: December 4, 2006 03:27

Which Stones songs are the most groovy according to you?
These days I'm hypnotized by the studio version of Live With Me. The static beat, static vocals, and everything around going crazy. The interplay between the guitars and the piano is unbelievable, and the bass, of course... Killer.
Also, of course, Bitch.
But I think the studio version of Under My Thumb also has something of a mid-tempo soul-pre funk feel to it, kind of late 60's Stax.
And... Down the road apiece! Is it Stu who steals the show on the piano?

Then you have the downright funky songs, esp. Negrita; but somehow Live With Me captures the essence of Stones groove for me these days (changes often).

Re: stones' best grooves?
Date: December 4, 2006 03:28

two words: Tumbling Dice

you can't catch me!

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Leonard Keringer ()
Date: December 4, 2006 03:31

those mammoth sized notes, intertwining to perfection in Honky Tonk Woman.....hooked from the cowbell on & Brown Sugar........hits hard and steady from the opening magic by Keith Richards



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-12-04 03:40 by Leonard Keringer.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: December 4, 2006 03:44

I love the period in the 70's when Keith and Taylor were using a lot of phaser, leslie and/or wahs. The created some great vibes: Through the Lonely Nights, Can you hear the music, Criss Cross, Fool to Cry, Fingerprint File.
Hey Negrita is a killer groove. What mazes me about the Stones is that the riff in Negrita and Slave is almost identical. yet the feel, groove is totally different.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: stonesctl ()
Date: December 4, 2006 03:46

Dance Little Sister

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Landover 81 ()
Date: December 4, 2006 03:51

Slave...

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: December 4, 2006 03:57

The slide & kick back into the Altamont, Under My Thumb ....

" let's all relax...let's just get into a groove...."



ROCKMAN

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: December 4, 2006 04:00

We've touched on this before but what remains one of the most mysterious and amazing feats by the Stones is just how well they rocked in Altamont. This gets overshadowed so often (of course). They played exceptionaslly good; Under my Thumb has the creepy midtempo groovin going on.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: December 4, 2006 04:01

Down in the Hole is a good one.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: December 4, 2006 11:00

Hot Stuff the ultimate groove tune.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: December 4, 2006 11:18

I think it would be easier to say which ones do NOT groove ...

My best 3 are SFTD 75 (the one on love you live is a good example) everything turning to gold (charlie oh charlie) and # 1, mr. groove song, miss you 78!

C

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Svartmer ()
Date: December 4, 2006 11:33

Maybe it´s too obvious, but Gimme Shelter is really groooovy.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: The Worst. ()
Date: December 4, 2006 12:08

Tumbling Dice,
Can't You Hear Me Knocking,
Jiving Sister Fanny,

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: sluissie ()
Date: December 4, 2006 12:09

Gimme Shelter live, Tumbling Dice in any form and Under My Thumb at Altamont. The last one, I have to be honest, was not my own idea but I'm glad Rockman brought it up.

Jelle

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: December 4, 2006 12:14

Dance little sister.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Rutger ()
Date: December 4, 2006 12:30

A very good and significant question! Grooves are an important element that seperate the Stones from a lot of other artists. They don't just rock and/or roll, but they also groove which makes their music so effective. There aren't many songs that have a real groove.

Some good grooving songs have been mentioned:

Tumbling Dice
Under My Thumb
Jiving Sister Fanny (grooves like a MF)
Live With Me

I would like to add:

Sympathy For The Devil (live 69)
Beast Of Burden
Miss You
Midnight Rambler (Original)
Get Off My Cloud
Stop Breaking Down
Jumping Jack Flash (original)
Parachute Woman

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: otonneau ()
Date: December 4, 2006 12:36

Rutger, glad you mention the original Rambler. Often overlooked in favour of the live version, but what a masterpiece! In fact, I think it's so much more subtle than the live version, which are of course more bombastic.

These days, I listen almost only to studio versions. The finesse of the arrangements between 68-72 (plus Some Girls), the restrain, the "less-is-more" is just stuning.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Date: December 4, 2006 13:04

Dance (pt. 1)
Slave
Miss You
Hot Stuff
Hey Negrita
Satisfaction
Fingerprint File

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Wuudy ()
Date: December 4, 2006 13:10

Maybe not the best but certaintly a favorite of mine, Dance Pt. 1. Great groove!!!

Cheers,
Wuudy

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: LieB ()
Date: December 4, 2006 13:12

Monkey Man is one of the grooviest too.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: December 4, 2006 13:14

Dancing with Mr. D.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Rutger ()
Date: December 4, 2006 14:45

otonneau Wrote:
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> Rutger, glad you mention the original Rambler.
> Often overlooked in favour of the live version,
> but what a masterpiece! In fact, I think it's so
> much more subtle than the live version, which are
> of course more bombastic.
>
> These days, I listen almost only to studio
> versions. The finesse of the arrangements between
> 68-72 (plus Some Girls), the restrain, the
> "less-is-more" is just stuning.

I certainly agree on the fact that the original version of Rambler is overlooked. It's not only subtle as you mentioned, but it also has blues written all over it.

When you think off all the blues songs the Stones have done, it's hard to come up with one that captures the authenticity of Rambler. From the very beginning you know this is blues as it was intented. Only the Stones add the element of danger and take it to the next level.

Keith is at his absolute best and grooves the whole way through. The live version is more raw and faster, which makes it a complete different experierence in my opinion. It becomes rock and roll. The original never goes into that territory.

As you mention the finesse of the arrangements is at it's absolute peak here. Never to much, always enough. To me the original Rambler stands out as one of the Rolling Stones' finest moments.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: LA FORUM ()
Date: December 4, 2006 14:46

otonneau Wrote:
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> Rutger, glad you mention the original Rambler.
> Often overlooked in favour of the live version,
> but what a masterpiece! In fact, I think it's so
> much more subtle than the live version, which are
> of course more bombastic.
>
> These days, I listen almost only to studio
> versions. The finesse of the arrangements between
> 68-72 (plus Some Girls), the restrain, the
> "less-is-more" is just stuning.



Yes forgot MR. MR studio version is the best one. Best groove.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: December 4, 2006 14:52

Everything is Turning to Gold is worth a mention

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: December 4, 2006 14:58

Today, spontaneously

Intro GS
Piano vs other instruments interplay at the break Loving Cup
All About You, esp., intro
The whole of For Your Precious Love
Citadel from Satanic majesties outtakes, Brian's mellotron parts
(but I do understand its not on the album too)
Taylor's solo on Shine A Light
All Keefs Betty-ish lickin & riffin (some millions?)

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: jamesfdouglas ()
Date: December 4, 2006 15:50

LieB Wrote:
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> Monkey Man is one of the grooviest too.

It's too good of a song.
It's too perfect a track.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Pecman ()
Date: December 4, 2006 17:56

TUMBLING DICE
FINGERPRINT FILE
MONEY MAN


PECMAN

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: December 4, 2006 21:49

Rutger Wrote:
To me the original Rambler stands out as
> one of the Rolling Stones' finest moments.

Hell yeah, it's perfect!

The main guitars tone is sublime, one of my favourite guitar tones infact.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: wee bobby lennox ()
Date: December 5, 2006 00:12

still life version of shattered.

builds up to a brilliant ending.

Re: stones' best grooves?
Posted by: Niklas ()
Date: December 5, 2006 00:31

The Worst. Wrote:
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> Tumbling Dice,
> Can't You Hear Me Knocking,
> Jiving Sister Fanny,


AMEN!



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