>> he should cover Sway and Time Waits <<

what i mean is that he has played them -
just adding to Terraplane's little list of Stones numbers Mick T has played.

Open-G, your love of all things Taylor knows no equal and although he gets my vote for being a better guitar player than Mick Jagger (and most others out there) his vocal stylings are at best average and are not the equal of Mick Jaggers. Let face it, Mick Jagger is one of the best rock and roll singers since the genre was born and Mick Taylor one of it best instrumentalists but not the other way round. Savvy?

Read the question stooges before answering with your Jagger is god comments.

He just asked what you thought. I've heard nights when I thought Taylor's voice
was every bit as good as Jaggers other nights I've felt differently.

My favorite version of JJF is still the intro to the movie: Gimme Shelter
that's the Stones at their best!!! love Taylor's little lead at the end!!!

MLC

sure their better than Mick J's vocals..........and the house painter down the street is better than Van Gogh

Yeah Leonard,

Jagger voice is going to be compared with the greats!!

Dream on!! He's known in the circles as a entertainer not a "SINGER"...

MLC

MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> Yeah Leonard,
>
> Jagger voice is going to be compared with the
> greats!!
>
> Dream on!! He's known in the circles as a
> entertainer not a "SINGER"...
>
> MLC



please dont shout.....it's not polite



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-12-04 19:12 by Leonard Keringer.

It's the truth...he's good dancer, but he can't sing for a f*ck. copyright F.Ante

MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> Read the question stooges before answering with
> your Jagger is god comments.

Oh that is bloody rich coming from a member of the Saint Taylor church.

So lets just get me head round this. MT is now a better singer??? I've heard it all! Let me guess he can also cure illness's and walk on water?

And since when has Rock N Roll been down to the technical ability of a singer or guitar player? Aint it more to do with the feel, emotion, rawness?

ablett Wrote:
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> So lets just get me head round this. MT is now a
> better singer??? I've heard it all! Let me guess
> he can also cure illness's and walk on water?
>
yes and he can turn water into large pizza's

Probably makes a better Pizza than Jagger n all!

ablett - AGAIN you need to slow down and READ!!

I said on some nights I've heard Taylor voice deliver some very good vocals,
other nights not so good, I'm not there to here him sing, I'm there to listen to his guitar playing. I've heard Jagger horrible some nights, as time goes by
his vocals have gotten better as he's learned via experience..

Jagger will NEVER be compaired with the likes of Paul Rodgers or some of the other vocalists from Britian for his "VOICE"

You guys are getting tired with your Fat jokes - think up something new..

MLC

All you Jaggerites I never said MT's vocals were better I just asked a question
on Taylor's vocal live performance of the song .


Taylor is not in the studio having the benefits of a cozy studio his vibrato and
performances are done live to small audiences.

BTW - Some of Jagger's vocals done live for JJF are TERRIBLE . I beleive your famous live record with Mr Woody has a bad version - Love you Live.

YIP YAP - YOU should be banned from this site with your cruel remarks about Mick
Taylor every week.

You bore the shit out of me, No you bore the daylights out of me.

>> I just asked a question <<

... not lookin for a quarrel OpenG, but:
why did you phrase the question the way you did, if you didn't want to invite comparison?
surely you didn't think many people would say yes - so why act surprised when the negatives pour in?
if you want to talk about Mick T's artistic achievements, can't you do that without comparisons with other artists?
this comparing/competing thing is a real striking - and unfortunate - tendency in threads about Mick T,
and in this one (at least in this one) you started it with the way you chose to phrase the question.

I don't think MT has covered many Stones songs at all since leaving them. Why would he need to anyway when he has some great songs of his own? These are the ones he has done as far as I know:

No Expectations
JJF (I've only know of him doing this once but it is on his official live album)
TWFNO (Only just recently)
CYHMK (The 2nd part which he wrote)
Honky Tonk Women (One time on a live bootleg?)
Sway (Really covered by Carla Olson, MT was the sideman)

Leather Jacket was written by Mick Taylor. You Gotta Move, Stop Breaking Down & Little Red Rooster weren't written by the Stones though they popularized them.

terraplane Wrote:
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> I don't think MT has covered many Stones songs at
> all since leaving them. Why would he need to
> anyway when he has some great songs of his own?
> These are the ones he has done as far as I know:
>
> No Expectations
> JJF (I've only know of him doing this once but it
> is on his official live album)
> TWFNO (Only just recently)
> CYHMK (The 2nd part which he wrote)
He has played the full version with a guest vocalist, including one time with KR.
> Honky Tonk Women (One time on a live bootleg?)
These also were "guest" appearances. He played it live with Corky Laing's band and in the studio with an Austrian and another band.
> Sway (Really covered by Carla Olson, MT was the
> sideman)
For some, he was the main attraction on Sway, but, if you include guest appearances, he has also played Silver Train, Rocks Off, YCAGWYW, Gimme Shelter, She's So Cold, I'm Free, SFTD, UMT, and IORR. I think only IORR and HTW appear on official releases.
> Leather Jacket was written by Mick Taylor. You
> Gotta Move, Stop Breaking Down & Little Red
> Rooster weren't written by the Stones though they
> popularized them.
He gave KR a writing credit for Separately.

The info is on Nico Zentraf's site.

Realistically, how well does Mick T. do on vocals and lead guitar in "Red House"? I've never heard his version.

To me, Hendrix owns that song. Can't imagine an Englishman singing it really well.

The lead guitar is outstanding (similar to Hendrix Live at Winterland) ie, a slower jazzier version. Vocals are good but different from Hendrix. It's hard to compare the two. As you said, Hendrix is the originator so we are all probably used to hearing him do it. Mick Taylor's version holds up very well though.

"I beleive your famous live record with Mr Woody has a bad version - Love you Live"

Thats my problem with all this stuff! Its basically everyones crap barr MT. Why mention 'Mr Wood'?
A generally most of the vocals on side 2 of love u live are roppy. But the Stones playing JJF beats any half arsed pub band anytime, 'cozy' studio or no 'cozy' studio.

Open G and MCDDLT you guys down everything in order for Mick Taylor to look better,I enjoy his playing also ,but you guys need to get together for a Taylorfest or something.
PS,why bring up Woodie?

Coming Down Again

exactly!

He's doing VENTILATOR BLUES ever now and then when he's on the road with the Finnish Wentus Blues Band.
But that's the only song he received credits for.
He co-wrote or developped many classic Stones tunes. And some of them he likes to play.
Isn't that funny when Taylor plays those songs Jagger/Richards get paid for it.

No not really. its happened to a few others and he was part of the great R n r band ever.

Hey Curtis, quit your crying!!!

When the "current" Stones do something good we mention it, when they don't sound so good we mention that too, even when some of you "homers" gush over
very average music that's produced. Me, OpenG and a few others are always having
to come to Taylor's aid when he's attacked around here (quite often)

Soooooooooo - Let's move on to another subject

Like when are Jagger/Richards gonna let Taylor sit-in??

MLC

MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> Read the question stooges before answering with
> your Jagger is god comments.

Amazing coming from a person who can't write a post without bringing up Taylor.

I love Taylor as well but I think the non-stop posts about him can actually make some on this board dislike him.

For one simple reason...... its very very boring! (and a tad strange,ooops thats 2!)

MCDDTLC Wrote:
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> Hey Curtis, quit your crying!!!
>
> When the "current" Stones do something good we
> mention it, when they don't sound so good we
> mention that too, even when some of you "homers"
> gush over
> very average music that's produced. Me, OpenG and
> a few others are always having
> to come to Taylor's aid when he's attacked around
> here (quite often)
>
> Soooooooooo - Let's move on to another subject
>
> Like when are Jagger/Richards gonna let Taylor
> sit-in??
>
> MLC
I must have hit a nerve,lets review,Taylor left in Dec.1974,remember!?
I love Taylors playing very much but please move on,they have a new player name Ronnie Wood.

What do you think, who is a better singer, Ronnie or MT?

C

PS

I know I am a bastard asking certain things ...

C