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Why de-construct it? With Mick Taylor back in tow we should be talking about re-constructing it. ><
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Taylor also saw his own decline, as well as that of the producer, the engineers and lots of others associated with the Stones.
Taylor was too modest then, unfortunately not aware of it. I don't hear a decline during his tenure with the Stones.
Physical and mental decline, something he has brought up numerous times himself
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Taylor also saw his own decline, as well as that of the producer, the engineers and lots of others associated with the Stones.
Taylor was too modest then, unfortunately not aware of it. I don't hear a decline during his tenure with the Stones.
Physical and mental decline, something he has brought up numerous times himself
It didn't affect his playing with the Stones back then, we have to give him that one.
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Regards Taylor - I've said before in '73 threads - it was at the time DE RIGEUR to have a 'hotshot' lead guitar to the fore. Think Focu and jans hammer for example. .
I assume you meant 'de rigueur' ? (= strictly obligatory, or required)
Also: Focu -> Focus ? Jans Hammer -> Jan Hammer ?
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Taylor also saw his own decline, as well as that of the producer, the engineers and lots of others associated with the Stones.
Taylor was too modest then, unfortunately not aware of it. I don't hear a decline during his tenure with the Stones.
Physical and mental decline, something he has brought up numerous times himself
It didn't affect his playing with the Stones back then, we have to give him that one.
Like I said, when a poster questioned how Taylor felt about the band and himself in 1974, I think Taylor was proud of what he did on IORR (judging by the interviews back then - and later).
Keith played brilliantly in 1978, but we might question his shape in that era. These things are not necessarily connected.
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Taylor also saw his own decline, as well as that of the producer, the engineers and lots of others associated with the Stones.
Taylor was too modest then, unfortunately not aware of it. I don't hear a decline during his tenure with the Stones.
Physical and mental decline, something he has brought up numerous times himself
It didn't affect his playing with the Stones back then, we have to give him that one.
Like I said, when a poster questioned how Taylor felt about the band and himself in 1974, I think Taylor was proud of what he did on IORR (judging by the interviews back then - and later).
Keith played brilliantly in 1978, but we might question his shape in that era. These things are not necessarily connected.
In '78 he was on the mend - but a shadow of his '69-'73 shape - and the band too.
Yes the band were more in gear and fired up than in '75'-76. But they would never recapture their '69-'73 form.
(I'm sure you'll disagree DP. But would you post examples from youtube of great Keith playing in '78 on a separate '78 thread).
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Taylor also saw his own decline, as well as that of the producer, the engineers and lots of others associated with the Stones.
Taylor was too modest then, unfortunately not aware of it. I don't hear a decline during his tenure with the Stones.
Physical and mental decline, something he has brought up numerous times himself
It didn't affect his playing with the Stones back then, we have to give him that one.
Like I said, when a poster questioned how Taylor felt about the band and himself in 1974, I think Taylor was proud of what he did on IORR (judging by the interviews back then - and later).
Keith played brilliantly in 1978, but we might question his shape in that era. These things are not necessarily connected.
In '78 he was on the mend - but a shadow of his '69-'73 shape - and the band too.
Yes the band were more in gear and fired up than in '75'-76. But they would never recapture their '69-'73 form.
(I'm sure you'll disagree DP. But would you post examples from youtube of great Keith playing in '78 on a separate '78 thread).
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Doxa
Wow, what kind of threads IORR used to have...
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I'm familiar to your thoughts, it's an interesting subject.
They threw away the acoustic Sweet Virginia on the European Tour, and also the songs Keith shined on...Bitch and Bye Bye Johnny. Rocks Off was not a Taylor-solo-song in 72...they threw away that one too.
There were only one song left, where Mick Taylor couldn't shine on...Star Star, as Keith did the solo. You'd expect them to come up with a different setlist, if they didn't like Taylor's soloing throughout the songs.
That's a bit odd...
Just making an "but-on-the-other-side"-post, here.
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I still can't understand what "best" Keith got out of his playing in 1973 compared to his LMG-solo on Still Life or his playing on Down In The Hole or Bitch in Atlantic City - not to forget Hate It When You Leave from Boston or How I Wish from the Palladium. But maybe there is something I don't get with his open G-playing/strumming back then.
If so, it would really be a shame, because I have written songs and played around with the 5-stringer for 26 years...
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I still can't understand what "best" Keith got out of his playing in 1973 compared to his LMG-solo on Still Life or his playing on Down In The Hole or Bitch in Atlantic City - not to forget Hate It When You Leave from Boston or How I Wish from the Palladium. But maybe there is something I don't get with his open G-playing/strumming back then.
If so, it would really be a shame, because I have written songs and played around with the 5-stringer for 26 years...
IMO there is no room for entire and absolute truth on iorr.org when it comes to the Rolling Stones' musical abilities, let alone asking for individual musical recognition to emphasize this, at least I don't... Like I said, it's a matter of taste. But then enjoying or debating 50 years of RS, that's epinephrine and fun. There is something in it for everyone..
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I still can't understand what "best" Keith got out of his playing in 1973 compared to his LMG-solo on Still Life or his playing on Down In The Hole or Bitch in Atlantic City - not to forget Hate It When You Leave from Boston or How I Wish from the Palladium. But maybe there is something I don't get with his open G-playing/strumming back then.
If so, it would really be a shame, because I have written songs and played around with the 5-stringer for 26 years...
IMO there is no room for entire and absolute truth on iorr.org when it comes to the Rolling Stones' musical abilities, let alone asking for individual musical recognition to emphasize this, at least I don't... Like I said, it's a matter of taste. But then enjoying or debating 50 years of RS, that's epinephrine and fun. There is something in it for everyone..
I agree, but at the same time one would be blind not to notice that lots of the numbers Keith was shining on were taken away for the 1973 tour.
That a certain kind of posters claim that Keith was better off and improved his contributions without Bye Bye Johnnie, Bitch and other Keith numbers is nothing but unfathomable - it's borderline provocative, imo.
But back to topic. Like I said before I was interrupted - a lovely tour.
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Yes I know. But I still think Keith was shining during the '73 Stones tour, the best rhythm player Taylor could ask for.