What if Keith's solo material had Mick's vocals (& general input)? What if Mick's solo material had Keith & Ronnie's input? In other words...what if all the solo projects were ROLLING STONES projects? Any thoughts? Specific songs with great potential? Example: If Mick had sang Keith's "Take It So Hard"...could it have been a classic Stones song? Food for thought.

I have thought of that too. Mick writes some great solo songs but they have a much different sound than the Stones. Very pop like- except for Wandering Spirit which sounded more like the Stones.

You can take some good pop sounding songs like "Visions Of Paradise" and "Don't Call Me Up", have keith add a more rock sound and make the songs even better.

Yes.....Mick has always admitted that his solo stuff is more pop/dance. Although I like Mick's solo work, Keith & Ron could add a lot. When Keith put out his first solo album it received critical acclaim...but I remember one writer wondering what could have been if it had been a Stones album with Mick on vocals.

Also, while recently listening to "A Bigger Bang" I noticed some similarities to Mick's song "Throwaway"....can't remember which track. But as Keith has said, their songs all have siblings & cousins.

Keith songs that would have been great on a Stones album: Take It So Hard, Struggle, How I Wish, 999, Will But You Wont. For Mick: Kow Tow, Just Another Night, Joy.

I think that 'Wandering Spirit' would have been a hell of a Stones LP!
'Eileen' could have been sung by Mick.

'Wicked as it Seems' was sung b Mick. They called it "Love is Strong".

Almost Hear You Sigh was a Keith song that he had written with the Winos but didn't release. Mick obviously ended up singing it with the Stones - and you can hear how Keith's would have probably sounded if you have heard those Steel Wheels outtakes that leaked a few months ago.

If Talk is Cheap had been a Stones album, it would have been the best Stones album in the last 20 years.

Of course, the other members of this band, Rolling Stones, wouldn't be happy about doing the selected member's solo-songs.
The only songs I think could have been pulled of, would be I Can Feel The Fire or Sure The One You Need (played 2 times in 75). The reason: Those tracks written by Keith/Mick, they features several Stones members, and they were released as a sort of bridge from Ronnie to Stones, instead of a sidepath away from the RS.

Midnight Toker Wrote:
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> Keith songs that would have been great on a Stones
> album: Take It So Hard, Struggle, How I Wish, 999,
> Will But You Wont. For Mick: Kow Tow, Just Another
> Night, Joy.


As "Kow Tow" was a personal diatribe aimed at Keith, I think there might be a problem with that one!

I think quite a few songs on that "Primitive cool" record reflect his deteriorating relationship with Keith. "Kow Tow" and "Shoot off your mouth" reflect his frustration and anger at him, and "Party Doll" sounds like a resigned and poignant farewell to their friendship. I even think that 'Throwaway' could be interpreted as reflecting on their relationship too.



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Don't forget "Lonely At The Top".

I think if we put together the best stuff from Keith and the same of Mick solo, we could have got more killer Stones albums. I respect their decisions coming out with ideas on their own, but it's just a fiction, it is good though, to imagine a brandnew Stones album in 1987 or 88 'mixing ideas' of Talk Is Cheap (which I think could be a Stones album itself alone anyway) and Primitive Cool' or later on in 1992 a mix of 'Wandering Spirit' (which can be alone a Stones album as well) and 'Main Offender'.
I also think that if we put together the ideas of Mick, which led to Goddess and the songs of 40 Licks sessions we could have got a decent fresh material from the Stones in 2000/2001!

FARAWAY EYES Wrote:
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> > I also think that if we put together the ideas of
> Mick, which led to Goddess and the songs of 40
> Licks sessions we could have got a decent fresh
> material from the Stones in 2000/2001!


maybe but it would still have been an album of Mick songs, as Keith's entire released songwriting output between 1997 and 2005 consists of one song - the appropriately titled Losing my Touch.

struggle,999,big enough would work from Keith
any Wandering Spirit stuff from Mick

Wonder what Keith could do with War Babies...?



ROCKMAN

shoot them, probably!

Never mind Mick versus Keith, and Ronnie and so on. Put Charlie on any of these albums and you'd be very close to the Stones sound. And Bill for that matter.

Yeah shoot 'em full of riffs......

Still need ya address Gazza



ROCKMAN

I don't hear Jagger singing any of Keith's songs myself. That is just what makes them special: the strange off phrasings, upside down rhyming, every verse with a different length. jagger would have a coniption and have to iron every thing out; and then they would not be the same tune any more. I mean,"Struggle" straightened out?? That is what makes it. I don't think there are 4 bars the same in that whole song.
But I can hear Keith on some of the Jagger songs, especially the later ones. On "She's the Boss" nothing. But "Wanderign Spirit" yes and even more on "Goddess". I think Keith would have been superb on all those songs.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

wandering spirit cuts to hell all the shite stones material since after undercover. that shouldve been a stones album.

Talk is Primitive

How about Wandering Offender, or Cheap Spirit

Love Talk is Cheap great disc and a lot of tunes would have fit the stones mold perfectly. Wandering Spirit is such a strong disc and sounds so much like the stones best stuff...a combination of the two as stones would have been classic! Better than any of "their" official releases as a band since, say, Some Girls??



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Isn't Bridges to babylon exactly the album you mean by this post?!?!?!

Cheers,
Wuudy

Raoul Duke Wrote:
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> If Talk is Cheap had been a Stones album, it would
> have been the best Stones album in the last 20
> years.

Totally agree!

With a smile on your face and a tear right in your eye

shit with this solo projects is that one has impresson that Keef'n'Mick put their best songs aside for them, instead of working on them as Stones projects. not each and evry solo song would be good as Stones song, but Steel Wheels and Voodoo Lounge would be much better albums with Stones versions of best solo tracks. hey I believe there would not even be a 5 year gap between SW and VL if they worked on solo songs in Stones context. so I believe the band suffered from solo projects. Imagine VL without some weaker songs and best of KR and MJ solo releases at the time it would be a very classic album with great great songs all over. like Exile

'God Gave Me Everything' would be interesting to hear with the other Rolling Stones in place of the multitracked Lenny Kravitz.

As for 'Joy', I can't imagine the song with Keith instead of Bono on vocals, and Pete Townshend's guitar part couldn't be replaced either.

The late 80s/early 90s solo stuff is OK the way that it is. Hearing one or the other of these tunes in concert would be nice though, like Throwaway, Out Of Focus or Eileen.

Every song off of Primitive Cool would not work, because that LP is garbage.

Hate It When You Leave
Evening Gown
God Gave Everything I want
Connection in Winos' style

You shouldn't take it so hard...

As long as Mick leaves his production ideas behind--that's what made Talk is Cheap so much better than Dirty Work.

I always liked them for not doing it.
They are not the @#$%& Eagles!