Hullo Everyone,

Bought the Barbarians album yesterday, 23 euro!!..But..it is a great album!
Rock nRoll! Lets go steady, Love and Vain. Nearly all the tracks are great. enjoy! Buy It! Bye jeroen

Is it stereo ???

[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]

yeah, it is an official release!!

jeroen starink Wrote:
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> Hullo Everyone,
>
> Bought the Barbarians album yesterday, 23
> euro!!..But..it is a great album!
> Rock nRoll! Lets go steady, Love and Vain. Nearly
> all the tracks are great. enjoy! Buy It! Bye
> jeroen


Where did you buy it, Jeroen? Van Leest? Plato?

Great news. I ordered in on Bol.Com immediately

[www.nl.bol.com]

Good news! Is it a recording of one show? Or are the tracks from various shows?

Hi RnT, no its from 0ne show Maryland 1979. Once again, its an official release. Ronnie is the pushing power behind it. It is a great sounding album, buy it!! Bye jeroen

marginal or big improvement over the long-available boot soundboard?

Stereo or mono like the boot?

StonesTod Wrote:
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> marginal or big improvement over the
> long-available boot soundboard?

As it is released by the Cadiz label which has repeatedly used bootleg CDs as master sources for several of their releases, I would be surprized if this official Barbarians release turns out as anything else than a officially sanctioned copy of the well-known bootleg; it even borrows the title from the Swinging Pig release. It may be equalized a bit, but I suggest it was taken from bootleg sources.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-10-08 20:20 by retired_dog.

thanks, doggie - that would be my suspicion as well....

[www.woodenrecords.co.uk]

This is Ron Wood's label. Check out the section "Latest" and you'll see the report on the New Barbarians official release.

Well, the info from Ronnie's label says it's 'remastered', but from what source? Of course they would not use the original Pig masters if there's no need, but the question at stake is if they used better masters than the Pig had access to. One would suggest that Ronnie must own the original recording (in stereo? even multitracks?), but it's well possible that the original was a cassette or reel-to-reel recording from the mixing disk which was done without Ronnie's knowledge and Ronnie now simply 'steals' it back from the bootleggers by copying a boot CD - in this case "remaster" would mean using latest studio technology to get the best out of the bootleg source...if it's in mono, there's not much that can be done except a bit of equalizing.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-10-08 20:38 by retired_dog.

U.S. release?

jjf audience or sb?

According to Amazon.com it is available on October 19th.

Amazon (U.S.) product description:

Two CD set featuring the first official release of this legendary live performance, recorded in Maryland in 1979. The New Barbarians were a live-only band consisting of Rolling Stones members Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood, Jazz great Stanley Clarke, former Faces/Small Faces keyboardist Ian McLagan, Bobby Keys and Ziggaboo Modeliste. 20 tracks including 'Sweet Little Rock 'N Roller', 'Love In Vain', 'Let's Go Steady', 'Before They Make Me Run', 'Jumping Jack Flash', 'Seven Days' and more. Includes an eight page full color booklet with extensive liner notes. Released on Ron Wood's Wooden Records label. 2006.

Tracklist:

1. Sweet Little Rock N Roller
2. Buried Alive
3. F.U.C Her
4. Mystifies Me
5. Infekshun
6. Rock Me Baby
7. Sure The One You
8. Lost & Lonely
9. Love In Vain
10. Breathe On Me
11. Lets Go Steady
12. Apartment No.9
13. Honky Tonk Women
14. Worried Life Blues
15. I Can Feel The Fire
16. Come To Realise
17. Am I Grooving You?
18. Seven Days
19. Before They Make Me Run
20. Jumping Jack Flash

Linkage:

[www.amazon.com]

retired_dog Wrote:
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> in this case "remaster" would mean using latest studio technology to get the
> best out of the bootleg source...if it's in mono,
> there's not much that can be done except a bit of
> equalizing.

I see your point, but I just can't imagine that Ron Wood had a bootleg remastered and is releasing it. I don't know, but I feel certain that he had the master tapes and that's what's been cleaned up and released.

best punk live record!
i pray they cut nothing from the original (like rocks off/livelicks) Keep Rigid!

I wonder if Mick is gonna be watching how well this release does -- may have some impact on how/when/what when it comes to the stones "opening the vault."

martingo Wrote:
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> I wonder if Mick is gonna be watching how well
> this release does -- may have some impact on
> how/when/what when it comes to the stones "opening
> the vault."

??? it won't sell worth a hill of beans - small label, no promotion and no general public interest in a band most current rock fans haven't a clue even existed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-10-09 03:04 by StonesTod.

sound's like the market environement for stones vault stuff 20 years from now.

martingo Wrote:
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> sound's like the market environement for stones
> vault stuff 20 years from now.

Good point! I have always thought that time is slowly running out to gain major commercial success with archive releases...10-15 years from now, a live recording from the 1972 US tour will probably sell just 8-10.000 copies worldwide.

lamemodem2 Wrote:
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> retired_dog Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > in this case "remaster" would mean using latest
> studio technology to get the
> > best out of the bootleg source...if it's in
> mono,
> > there's not much that can be done except a bit
> of
> > equalizing.
>
> I see your point, but I just can't imagine that
> Ron Wood had a bootleg remastered and is releasing
> it. I don't know, but I feel certain that he had
> the master tapes and that's what's been cleaned up
> and released.

Well, he did it once...he released his Electric Ladyland performance through a small label a couple of years ago and the resulting CD did not sound any better than the Swinging Pig release of the show - one would have imagined that Ronnie had the original multitracks to work with. Until someone confirms that the New Barbarians official release is a major upgrade, I have my doubts...

retired_dog Wrote:
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> Well, he did it once...he released his Electric
> Ladyland performance through a small label a
> couple of years ago

I was under the impression that Ronnie had nothing to do with that release.

But really, after YOU and ME buy this, who the hell else will? I'm glad it's coming officially out but only US Stones freaks will know who the New Barbarians are. Hopefully making a cd and some artwork doesn't cost that much so Ronnie doesn't lose his butt trying to sell this.

Still no one can confirm if there is an essential difference with the existing bootleg?

When Live And Eclectic was released I phoned the record company and they told me that Ronnie supplied the tapes so the second disc came from bootleg sources. They also said he gave them a lot of video of the tour but obviously they never released it.

is somewhere some review of this realise?

when is the release date for germany?
where can i buy it in frankfurt or anywhere near?