singing better than ever imho.

Mick is spending too much time listening to Chuck Leavell and Michael Cohl.

still the greatest frontman to walk the earth!!!!!!!!

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> Mick is spending too much time listening to Chuck
> Leavell and Michael Cohl.

I think he should listen more to Chuck, actually. He is the one trying to push some new songs in the setlist!


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Still very exciting to watch.He is the draw for most casual fans, every show I own on video ,and that's alot, Mick is always entertaining .....A role model for 63 year olds?

a machine.

I still love the old days when he performed under questionable influences and did not care, it was less calculated and more rock and roll.

He's older age has brought about the new Mick machine, sober, smart, fit, and impressive for his age.

Don't like the calculated, corporate influenced, money making aspects of today though.

Is rock and roll always sober? I'm not sure.

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> I think he should listen more to Chuck, actually.
> He is the one trying to push some new songs in the
> setlist!

Yes indeed he should.

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> still the greatest frontman to walk the
> earth!!!!!!!!

This has never been in question. Jagger always gives his best.

> I think he should listen more to Chuck, actually. He is the one trying to push some new songs in the setlist!

Is this the Chuck Leavell Band?

the motor of the Stones...
you can give a lot of critics on him, but whitout Mick, there were no shows anymore at all !!! he's keeping them alive and kicking !!!
At his age, he should only stop copying young people and attitudes (handless microfone,...) and just be Mick Jagger. It's a pity the other Stones are not as fanatic as he is... they have an attitude of arrived stars...instead of going for it..

the Stones are nothing whitout Mick...(but also Mick nothing without them !)

......a pooh pooh head sometimes.

I agree p8578. Mick is the best frontman ever and is the consummate rocker. He gives it everything he has and then some. What I was getting at with my earlier comment is that Chuck and the entourage have become so synonymous with the Rolling Stones that some see them as part of the band, as in when someone asks if anyone has met any of the Stones, invariably someone brings up meeting Lisa Fischer, Chuck, Blondie, etc. Just a pet peeve, I guess.

Here is a question that I don't know the answer to: People often complain about Keith and Ron doing too much posing and not enough playing/weaving. Is this because of the secondary musicians in place since 1989? Before 1989 if they didn't weave/play there was no one to cover but now there is a plethora of horns, Blondie, etc., to cover for them. Can Keith and Ron still play like they used to or is the entourage necessary?

I think the entourage is necessary, or I think they think it is. It wasn't in '89, but was used for different reasons anyway--to make a flashier comeback, to fill up the huge stage, to correspond to 80s tastes with 2 keyboards... I'm not sure at which point, b/c I haven't listened to many shows since then, but it's now necessary, b/c they can't play like they used to. To their credit, the stones do not include other electric guitarists in the entourage (blondie does play acoustic on a handful of songs, but that's no trick), but at least there is something happening in the moments when both keith and ron happen to be smiling and waving. Perhaps mick plays guitar now to cover for this too, though he usually cuts out by halfway through the song. bernard does double mick's vocal as a back-up on some songs, but it's not covered up, and it's not really necessarily, imo.

Harm Wrote:
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> Lorenz Wrote:
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> > I think he should listen more to Chuck,
> actually.
> > He is the one trying to push some new songs in
> the
> > setlist!
>
> Yes indeed he should.

Where did you get that quote from? It's not in this topic and it hasn't really got anything to do with it either.

cc- Blondie plays electric guitar on songs as well. Many, what used to be guitar riffsor solos, are covered by other instruments like Under my Thumb or the version of Hot Stuff with all the horns making up for Ronnie's ability to play a guitar solo.

Their cover songs like Night Time, Can't Turn You Loose and the dreadful Love Train are all lead by the horns and backing musicians. Back in the day they'd pull out an old Chuck Berry cover and let keith tear it up.

And yes they should listen to Chuck more, he knows the Stones have way too many songs they have either never played or not played in ages. Look at 40 Licks, more than half of those songs have either not been played in years or have never been done. And these are hits.

4th quote

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> . Perhaps mick plays guitar now to cover for
> this too

I dont think thats why Mick J plays gituar. He probably plays gituar on fewer songs these days than on past tours, going back to 78. plus as you said..

>he usually cuts out by halfway
>

J-J-Flash Wrote:
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> Their cover songs like Night Time, Can't Turn You
> Loose and the dreadful Love Train are all lead by
> the horns and backing musicians. Back in the day
> they'd pull out an old Chuck Berry cover and let
> keith tear it up.

I woudnl't mind more chuck berry covers, but I really like the versions cant turn you loose and Love train on four flicks.

J-J-Flash Wrote:
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> cc- Blondie plays electric guitar on songs as
> well.

I didn't know this, and what was posted about him playing behind the amps is new to me too... potentially disturbing. Still, I can't hear an extra guitar in the songs where I can't see him--can anyone else? (I'm just going by an assortment of clips plus Four Flicks.) So maybe he's kept on mute except for emergencies, which haven't happened yet. You can still say that keith's guitar is pretty much always cranked up, even with all the flubs. That's good.

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> 4th quote

Hehe, stupid of me, sorry.

Anyway.

Yes, Mick is fantastic these days. How anyone can hear someone sing corporately...

Mick is the sexiest !!!

what songs does blondie chaplin play eclectric gituar on? does he do it off stage so you cant see it?

With all this chitter chatter about guitarists playing (or perhaps not playing), it's moved away from the main topic, that is 'Mick is'.

There is no doubt to me that without one particular band member, above all others, this band would never continue.

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...NOT A MUSICIAN LIKE MACCA!

HE IS A GAY DANCER!

CAN'T SING FOR A @#$%&!

LET'S SEE HIM DU HELTERSKELTER!

BUFFFON SEE!

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Vince whirlwind is still and will always be the greatest and most exciting human ever, bar none, I would love to see him pissed once in a while on stage, you know adopt keiths theory that the best way to play is when it is 4 in the morning and you've had to much to drink, I think jagger would be a monster the pure unadulterated monster that he really is, keith and ronnie would love it and all of us stones fans would to!

Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> ...NOT A MUSICIAN LIKE MACCA!
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> HE IS A GAY DANCER!
>
> CAN'T SING FOR A @#$%&!
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> LET'S SEE HIM DU HELTERSKELTER!
>
> BUFFFON SEE!

I will report that post!

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Joking? Do I ever joke? I'm not the kind of person that makes jokes!