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Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:32

I'ts been thirty years on both,what do you think?I love BAB,the tour was crazy Ronnie was still getting his feel for the band,they had Billy Preston on his third tour,all I got to say is Hey Negrita.PS we still had Knebworth and the EL Mocambo to come,great and crazy days to come.PS the Chet Flippo book takes you there!!!

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:35

Almost forgot,check out Ronnie's leads on Hand of Fate,and Hey Negrita live Paris 76 on dvd........

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: KingBee ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:37

What´s the name of Flippo´s book?


Raw Iguana

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:41

KingBee Wrote:
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> What´s the name of Flippo´s book?
>
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> Raw Iguana


There are two different ones.

[www.amazon.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-07-31 04:42 by Bingo.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:42

On the Road with the Rolling Stones,covers 75/76/78/79.....

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:45

1976 = my least favourite Stones tour. Not that I wouldnt have enjoyed seeing a show on it, but its not a tour where I can say I enjoy listening to too many shows

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: July 31, 2006 04:47

Gazza,what about Keith's wah wah lead on Fool to CRY live,never again repeated.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: July 31, 2006 05:05

takes more than a wah-wah on a so-so song to salvage things, nice though it is

I just dont care for Jagger's singing on that tour (as evidenced on LYL) and his level of self parody in his performing style was at its worst. I DO like the '75 tour, however...and I also like the Knebworth show. The Paris shows are patchy, but I'm glad its those ones that were filmed instead of the London ones, which were something of a nadir based on the recordings anyway

I think the Stones reached a bit of a crossroads as a live act at that time. Thankfully the upheavals in pop music over the next year or two gave them the kick up the ass they needed - El Mocambo '77 and the '78 tour had more of a raw musical attitude that was more to my personal taste.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: July 31, 2006 12:07

true on some levels'the only thing different from 75 from 76 was that in 76 they were promoting Black and Blue..It was a interesting time for the
stones..mid career...they were becoming the juggernaut.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: twanghound ()
Date: July 31, 2006 13:29

are there really two different books by chet flippo
about the stones?
i thought that they renamed a reissue in hope to sell
the same book twice.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: July 31, 2006 13:37

same book ,different title....

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 31, 2006 13:54





ROCKMAN

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Turd On The Run ()
Date: July 31, 2006 15:11

The 1975 Tour of the Americas and the 1976 Black and Blue tour of Europe were indeed the first Stones tours where one smelled the cynicism, the Gigantism, and the 'show business' aspects overwhelming the music...the social significance...the relevance was seeping out. For a lot of people, the claim "It's Only Rock 'n Roll" was sacrilege. For a LOT of us [and I was very young] it WASN'T only rock 'n roll...it was so much more...but the music - great as it was - had become rococo and decadent and somewhat frivolous [Billy Preston's mini-concert half-way through!] and the Stones just didn't seem to be interested in being the bellwether band of their generation anymore on a musical level. Jagger's singing on these tours had degenerated into a short-hand stadium growl...gone were the high notes and the subtleties of melody, replaced with a monochrome, rushed delivery. Keef and Woody worked really well together, though...the sound had become rawer and more rough-edged. Gone was the beauty of Mick Taylor, replaced with a barbed-wire, twin-guitar attack...this tour and the 1978 'Some Girls' tour was when Woody and Keef were at their best working together [though even then Woody's solos were often horrific]. Thereafter Woody would be only a liability to this band...as he remains until today.

Most importantly, the 1975-1976 tours were the tours where the template for the later - gigantic - tours of the 1980's-90's was set. For good or ill.

Diamond rings, Vaseline, you gave me disease, well, I lost a lot of love over you.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: August 1, 2006 02:19

Turd on the Run.they really switched it up on the next tour.75/76 tour was kinda looking back and forward at the same time.78 tour was the cut the waffle tour ,a term Zeppelin used when they were cutting back on solos and 70s bombast on their 1980 European tour,back to the basics was the 78 tour theme.Ronnie and Keith really jamming together!!

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Turd On The Run ()
Date: August 1, 2006 03:40

You're right, curtisdavis, and I loved the 1978 tour...I was front row at the Philly show...it was basically a punk show. Shambling, cacophonous, fast, and completely relevant to that era. They even did their old classics with a new defiance and ferocity...a sort of throwaway menace. The Stones were dangerous again...

Diamond rings, Vaseline, you gave me disease, well, I lost a lot of love over you.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: August 1, 2006 04:08

We need a official 1978 dvd release....chances slim to none!!!!

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: August 1, 2006 07:59

I saw 2 Paris shows 76. It was just terrific. GREAT SOUVENIR.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: satisfaction2 ()
Date: August 1, 2006 11:24



Great Concert !!!!!!!!!!

See my old ticket (left side - down)

Gerhard (germany)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-08-01 11:26 by satisfaction2.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: curtisdavis ()
Date: August 1, 2006 13:11

You saw history at that Paris show in 76,a band at the crossroads so to speak>> What is your first memory of that concert? thats if you can remember.

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: satisfaction2 ()
Date: August 1, 2006 16:10

1. Memory = All the "crazy nice different people" hangin around ....atmosphere....

Re: Paris 76 and Black and Blue/30 years ago
Posted by: Turd On The Run ()
Date: August 1, 2006 17:16

Band at the Crossroads? A band at the end of the road. Thier relevance was seeping out fast. Gigantism was taking over. It was ONLY rock 'n roll now...entertainment...it was no longer life and death. Jagger was at his most mannered and effete...and his live concert voice was a shadow of what it was even 4 years prior. Yet they were still the best rock 'n roll band in the world. The guitar attack was rawer and much sloppier. 2 years later they would jettison Billy Preston, Ollie Brown, and a lot of the rococo dynamics of this tour and strip back for the punky Some Girls tour. And they would become relevant and dangerous again...

Diamond rings, Vaseline, you gave me disease, well, I lost a lot of love over you.



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