Listen, lets be real and honesty here. First off we all hate the thought of the Stones calling it quits... However, Everyshow is now laced with off tunnings, bad soundboard, wrong lyrics at times... wrong songs being played.... Hell, I have seen them 7 times on this tour and I am sorry....BTB was thier last good tour besides the theater shows on licks tour.... The Stones are overdubbing themselves to an extreme due to the bad shows... I am sorry.... I may piss some off... I love the boys as much as anyone... but now with the coconut thing and all the shows being canceled.... this is just a mockery.... Maybe this is why Zep never regrouped as ZEP... thier legacy is intact and they left on top......same as the beatles and others... BOYS its time... your beginning to look silly..... sorry but it hat to be said..ITS THE TRUTH... lets all be glad for what we had with them, it sucks watch something live that is really dead!!!

If Zep - speakin of them - ever had a legacy it ran out in the gutter
from 1972 and onwards. Yeah, I also love Tea For Two and Kashmir,but
their raw energy was long lost at The Song Remains The Same imho.

eric Wrote:
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>The Stones are overdubbing
> themselves to an extreme due to the bad shows

what the hell does that mean?

You know who's starting to look silly? Paul McCartney.

OT: WHAT IS LOVE! baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.

Really, this is nonsense.
Ecstatic their shows make me indeed!!
Probably, you're just a little annoyed by the whole Keith and Ron thing.
That will be OK soon!!
I have hopes for another tour after 2007!!
Love me or hate me, but I think so!!
Eventually, they'll be the only rock stars left on this planet!!

eric i agree with some not all of your post

I'm sure they'll be really gutted by what Eric thinks.

eric Wrote:
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> Listen, lets be real and honesty here. First off
> we all hate the thought of the Stones calling it
> quits... However, Everyshow is now laced with off
> tunnings, bad soundboard, wrong lyrics at times...
> wrong songs being played.... Hell, I have seen
> them 7 times on this tour and I am sorry....BTB
> was thier last good tour besides the theater shows
> on licks tour.... The Stones are overdubbing
> themselves to an extreme due to the bad shows... I
> am sorry.... I may piss some off... I love the
> boys as much as anyone... but now with the coconut
> thing and all the shows being canceled.... this is
> just a mockery.... Maybe this is why Zep never
> regrouped as ZEP... thier legacy is intact and
> they left on top......same as the beatles and
> others... BOYS its time... your beginning to look
> silly..... sorry but it hat to be said..ITS THE
> TRUTH... lets all be glad for what we had with
> them, it sucks watch something live that is really
> dead!!!

Watch the Saitama show. If they come blazing out the gate like that in Milan, their legend will be continuing

Don't worry it's ON IN MILAN!!! It's going to be straight biz right out of the gate!! Hey eric i don't know where your coming from. I've seen every tour since 78. Two of the best show's i've ever scene by the stones are A Bgger Bang Mexico City and Fresno 3rd was Steel Wheels L.A. collosium. Ive seen 15 show's on this tour included there last performance in Wellington. The permoters were calling welly the best of the tour so far which i don't disagree with or agree with. because the longer they tour. The heavier there whole dynamic becomes from the music they are creating it just becomes this huge monster. Yes keith has had some mis cues on this tour quite often but that goes to show he's human and maybe starting to show his age. So what we would not be or you talking about the STONES if you did'nt want to go see them and supposedly this is it and i'm sure hoping they will go out on top but we will have to see there's still6 month's left to the tour so why try and spectulate on the future of the remaining dates. All i know is This tour has been insane in the membrian!!! There sound system the best i've heard so far so i don't know where your coming from. The mixer has been a little weird only when they went to the Asian and down under gigs he kind of messed Sh** up a bit that's it.



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Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> If Zep - speakin of them - ever had a legacy


No they didnt, trust me.

Hey Baboon Bro, Sorry to say ZEP ruled the 70's that's a known fact. They had a bad year that was 77 that's it. The 79 tour was starting to go off check out Knebworth Bonham and Page were at there best then in my opinion they went out into the stratophere together. There's nothing like it on this planet and there never will be just like the Stones.

I'm a firm believer in letting nature take it's course. It's a free country. If The Stones wamt to plod on and millions of punters still want to shell out millions of dollars to see them then let them plod on. It's certainly a lot more interesting waiting to see what happens next rather than having them holed up at their estates sipping cognac overseeing their bank accounts.

Duane in Houston Wrote:
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> I'm a firm believer in letting nature take it's
> course. It's a free country. If The Stones wamt to
> plod on and millions of punters still want to
> shell out millions of dollars to see them then let
> them plod on. It's certainly a lot more
> interesting waiting to see what happens next
> rather than having them holed up at their estates
> sipping cognac overseeing their bank accounts.



Yup. Besides, it's far too late for the easily-embarrassed Stones fans to avoid any unpleasantness. THe Stones were seriously urged to quit since the late 70s, they've spent 3 decades being way too old for this, why give in now?
If you're embarrassed, pretend you're not a fan, wear a Zeppelin shirt and shut up.

Eric: I love your honesty. They need to tone it down now. Really, only club shows from now on. I think Dylan started doing this.

But still, when Keefster does "You Got Me Rockin" it is hard to quit.

Mixed feelings entirely cause it does cook and people know it.

The club shows are usally the best. But not when your in a third world country with no SOUND RESTRICTIONS!!! Then the stadium show's are insane! Like at Copa and Argentina and Mexico!!! Why do you think those people GO WILD!! There is NO SOUND CODES THERE!!! So like the album Let it bleed says. THIS ALBUM NEEDS TO BE PLAYED ALL THE WAY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THats how they do in the 3rd world!!!!!!!!

Gazza Wrote:
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> eric Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >The Stones are overdubbing
> > themselves to an extreme due to the bad shows
>
> what the hell does that mean?


Yeah. Keef said, when the German tabloid said that in 94 or 98, that it was the ultimate insult to say that they play with pre recorded tracks.

JumpingKentFlash

Well, for all their faults, we all know thats a load of old cock...

frankly, it doesn't bother me that much. i wasn't born when they were in their prime, so I'm happy to be able to see them now, even if they're not exactly the same band as they were when the played Perth in 1973. i'm just happy that i'll be seeing them in Nice in 2006!!!

Nikki, when was the last time you saw them? Or is this the first? I'm glad you got a new chance.

portland 2005. the one and only, cant wait for nice! thanks, erik!

. . . or as rooster would say, CHEERS!

(praying Keith doesn't play Sleep Tonight, though . . . )

eric,I agree that your name is eric. the rest of the post is rubbish.

"Welcome to Nice! It's such a nice summer day,
and we've decided to make it a special night too. We're gonna do the entire Goats Head Soup album, and then the last record Stewart played on....can't remember the title....But first...Rough Justice! One - Two - And One Two Three Four!"

J.J.Flash Wrote:
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> eric,I agree that your name is eric. the rest of
> the post is rubbish.


Phew, for a minute I thought you were talking to me.

Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> "Welcome to Nice! It's such a nice summer day,
> and we've decided to make it a special night too.
> We're gonna do the entire Goats Head Soup album,
> and then the last record Stewart played
> on....can't remember the title....But
> first...Rough Justice! One - Two - And One Two
> Three Four!"


LOL, you may have heard me laughing (and crying at the same time) all the way over here in Korea, erik . . .!

anyway . . . that's scared me. want my Nice ticket?

eric Wrote:
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> Listen, lets be real and honesty here. First off
> we all hate the thought of the Stones calling it
> quits... However, Everyshow is now laced with off
> tunnings, bad soundboard, wrong lyrics at times...
> wrong songs being played.... Hell, I have seen
> them 7 times on this tour and I am sorry....BTB
> was thier last good tour besides the theater shows
> on licks tour.... The Stones are overdubbing
> themselves to an extreme due to the bad shows... I
> am sorry.... I may piss some off... I love the
> boys as much as anyone... but now with the coconut
> thing and all the shows being canceled.... this is
> just a mockery.... Maybe this is why Zep never
> regrouped as ZEP... thier legacy is intact and
> they left on top......same as the beatles and
> others... BOYS its time... your beginning to look
> silly..... sorry but it hat to be said..ITS THE
> TRUTH... lets all be glad for what we had with
> them, it sucks watch something live that is really
> dead!!!

if you feel that way WTF ARE YOU DOING HERE????????

Eric:

Off tunings and wrong lyrics go back to the '60's with the Stones.

Wrong songs: same deal.

The Stones are not overdubbing live - if you mean they're overdubbing their live recordings, same thing, it goes back to the '60's.

Messed up soundboards? As virtually everyone agrees, they mixed the guitars way up on this tour, and the results are tremendous.

There are too many great fresh things the Stones are doing live now, from blistering, first ever concert renditions of tunes like CYHMK in '02 (complete with awesome solos by Ron Wood and Mick on harp), to resurrecting great live numbers such as She's So Cold and As Tears Go By on the current tour, to their absolutely stunning versions of some classics like Midnight Rambler (performed BETTER than any official live version at times during AB, Everybody Needs Somebody To Love on the previous tour, etc. etc.

As shattered said, "it does cook and people know it." Go to a show and let the Stones silence your concerns.

Any one who thinks that the Stones are playing tapes during their concerts is ignorant and is not a fan.
But hard to reconcile this with someone who has seen them 7 times on this tour.
Eric, What are you going for?