I'm no expert on ska or punk so I figured I'd ask all you music fans out there:

was Rip this joint the genesis for these genres of music?

I mean it's a quick paced, 2 minute gem, with raw rebellion lyrics, and horns to boot. That spells punk to me.

Was there any other punk-type song to precede it? Thanks.

Rip This Joint was not the genesis of punk.

stonesctl Wrote:
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> I'm no expert on ska or punk so I figured I'd ask
> all you music fans out there:
>
> was Rip this joint the genesis for these genres of
> music?
>
> I mean it's a quick paced, 2 minute gem, with raw
> rebellion lyrics, and horns to boot. That spells
> punk to me.
>
> Was there any other punk-type song to precede it?
> Thanks.

There were all sorts of punk like tunes recorded in the '60s. They were generally referred to as garage rock. Many of the best were collected on a compilation called Nuggets: [www.amazon.com]

Rip This Joint is a fantastic song, tho; it's my favorite Stones tune of all time.

Thanks, ONNYA

I definitely want to check that compilation out.

Cheers.

No.

Ska comes from Jamaica and the beat is quite diferent.
Punk rock, in the US meanining of the term, is just a no-frills evolution of early rock n' roll mixed with bubble-gum from the late 50s/early 60's.

RTJ is a hell of a rocker, but I think is far-fetched saying it inspired any of these genres.

Nuggets Rock!

Ska, I believe, pre-dates reggae, and was popular in Jamaica probably before the Stones were in knickers.

I think Rip This Joint, and the Stones music in general, had some influence on punk, although many punks pointed to the Stones in a derogatory way.

KSIE Wrote:
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> Ska, I believe, pre-dates reggae
Yeah, it was Jamaica's answer to rock n' roll.
Reggae came way after, as a mix between dub and ska.

It seems to me that Rip This Joint was inspired by Rockabilly. Amphetamines and whisky too.



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It's also my fav song of all time, a close second is Hand Of Fate....

"It's Good To Be Here, It's Good To Be Anywhere"-Keith Richards

"Halloween Is Every Night Of My Life"-Keith Richards

"I Got The Sticky Fingers, For Some Girls"

im not an expert but I dont think RTJ is really punk, its rock n' roll. but the thing it has in commone with punk is that its so FAST! so maybe you could say that its like punk because of that. rock n roll and punk do have a lot in common. RTJ is definetly not SKA though. Plus, I think it swings in a way that you dont hear in Punk.



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yeah, Rip This Joint is like a totally-buzzed Route 66,
bursting at the seams with rock & roll allusions, including allusions to allusions ...

Short Fat Fannie by Larry Williams

I was slippin and slidin with a long tall Sally
Peekin and a hidin, duck back in the alley
Don't wanna rip it up, don't wanna dance with Annie
I've got a brand new lover name is Short Fat Fannie

One day while I was visitin at HeartBreak Hotel
Thats where I met Fannie and she sure looked swell
I told her that I loved her and I'd never leave
She put her arms around me, gave me fever

She's my tutti fruiti, I love the child so
She watch me like a hound dog everywhere I go
Whenever I'm around her I'm on my p's and q's
She might step on my blue suede shoes

Well at a honky tonk party just the other night
Fannie got jealous and she started a fight
At the club I was dancin with MaryLou
I had to call Jim Dandy to the rescue

Short Fat Fannie she's my hearts desire
Short Fat Fannie sets my soul on fire
On Monday we were married on Blueberry Hill
Now we're so happy and I love her still


- Larry Williams
(don't know who took it or when, sorry!)

I'd never thought of the Little Richard connection (and I'd never heard of the short fat fanny song), but now that you all point it out, it seems so obvious. Thanks for connecting the dots for me!

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